Mandalorians versus Republic and the CIS

Started by jollyjim3115 pages

But the clones didn't have nearly as much training, and it wasn't as intense as a standard Mandalorians training was.

Originally posted by Ianus
And Jango was arguably not even Mandalorian.

How does that work? Go look at SW.com, Mandalorians are humans. They aren't a seperate species. Jango was Mandalore since he was raised and trained by them(pretty much the only requirement to becoming one) and Kreia made a reference to him being a Mandalore in KOTOR 2(something along the lines of "broken shell slain to easily by a Jedi"😉.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
But the clones didn't have nearly as much training, and it wasn't as intense as a standard Mandalorians training was.

Proof?

Originally posted by Jack O'Neil
Clones and battle droids were made for battle. Don't forget Destroyer Droids with shields that'll come in handy plus they have people building cruisers and weapons for the Republic and CIS all the time.

One well thrown ion grenade the take out an entire group of Droidekas. Also droids are inferior to a human because humans can reason in ways droids cannot.

Doesn't the Republic gets their Jedi? That'll help out a lot for the war.

It doesn't help all that much. PT Jedi are mainly diplomats and horrible fighters. Their numbers would also be stretched way thinner than fighting against the CIS. You also have a way tougher opponent, a Mandalorian warrior bred to fight, not from machines and simulations, but from near-death experiences and real-life fights.

Originally posted by Jack O'Neil
Doesn't the Republic gets their Jedi? That'll help out a lot for the war.

10,000 untested and inexperied Jedi against the battle hardened Mandalorians? Revan and his Jedi defeated the Mandalorians becuase.

1. Revan was one of the most brilliant srategiests in history and his tactics were better than that of the Mandalorians.

2. The KOTOR era Jedi were all battle hardened and focused more on combat that the PT era Jedi.

Yes, the Republic also gets their Jedi(I think).

Like I said before, remember that the Rouge General Slayke was able to rally 50,000 trained troops in about two months. If the Republic had put all their resouces into doing the same thing, they could have a much larger army than 1,200,000.

General Grievous is a freaky geniues. He led his army into victory after victory under near impossible odds and he's trained for combat for his race is a warrior race.

Originally posted by Jack O'Neil
General Grievous is a freaky geniues. He led his army into victory after victory under near impossible odds and he's trained for combat for his race is a warrior race.

...your point being? Grevious does not own up to Revan in tactics.

Originally posted by Veneficus
10,000 untested and inexperied Jedi against the battle hardened Mandalorians? Revan and his Jedi defeated the Mandalorians becuase.

1. Revan was one of the most brilliant srategiests in history and his tactics were better than that of the Mandalorians.

GG was a great General too. There are several Generals rivaling Revan in tactical prowless.

Originally posted by Veneficus
2. The KOTOR era Jedi were all battle hardened and focused more on combat that the PT era Jedi.

I don't see how this is so. There really is no proof of this since most of the Jedi that had fought in the only notable war near that time(The Great Sith War) were dead or near dead.

The most powerful Jedi Guardian also hadn't even been in any real wars. Shows a lot about the power of the surviving veterans.

KOTOR Republic was able to win because:

- Strategies of Revan and Malak
- Strength and abilities of the Jedi of that time period
- Way more unified Republic

The Republic systems and CIS systems have more then the Mandalorians and if they put their resources into gathering people they can have a greater army. And GG doesn't have to stand up to Revan's military level as long as he gets a victory.

Originally posted by Veneficus
...your point being? Grevious does not own up to Revan in tactics.

Prove Revan was better in tactics then PT Generals. All we have are some quotes, which I may remind you could possibly be infected with hyperbole.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Proof?

The Clones had like ten years of training with computer simulations that couldn't actually hurt them.

And?

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Prove Revan was better in tactics then PT Generals. All we have are some quotes, which I may remind you could possibly be infected with hyperbole.

I need to stop getting involved in these godamn debates...I always loose.

Anyways as for Revan's skill with tactics we have more than a few quotes. Canderous calls Revan a genius on the field saying that his tactics defated the best of the Mandlorians. Master Dorak calls Revan a brilliant tactition. Brianna seems to be in awe of Revan's tactics. Just about everyone who talks about Revan mentions one thing or another about how he is such a brilliant stategist.

And from that time to PT, that's thousands of years, a lot can change since then.

Why don't you explain why PT Generals can compete even remotely with Revan?

Revan not only mastered the art of war, but learned how to maximize the victory of a war, leaving enemy industries, like factories, intact so he wouldn't have to start over when he won. He was a genius and probably the best strategest has and ever would see.

Then why is he never mentioned in the PT?