Apocalypse vs Dracula

Originally posted by demigawd
LOL....and third and fourth and fifth and sixth and seventh and eighth mutation...

okay, try and stay with me here:

In the series, they continually announce when young En Sabah Nur manifests a new power (in fact, the ability to control his genetics is his last mutation). a la : "My blood, burning like the sun!!!" 'The fall should be lethal, no doubt-- but another of the young mutant's powers comes forth.'

"Something in him; down past his muscles and bones, into the very fiber of his being BECOMES!!!" -- 'DIE DIE!!!!!!!!!! IF I MUST, I WILL DESTROY ALL THOSE WHO STAND IN MY WAY!!!!!!'

"Ozymandias has seen the colossal wonders of the ancient world. But he has never seen a sight such as this." -- How can this be? His body....pulling apart.....GROWING

"The days grow longer,....I should be dead, yet this body will not die" (4 months)

Originally posted by demigawd
And now, it's not even his anymore! hahaha

I know. That's exactly what I'm trying to get you all to see. Ever since the DAMNED twelve saga. (conspiricy)

All of which is well and good...that's all part of the same mutant power, as i already explained. The shape-shifting/growing/strength/self-cellular rejuvenation - when you can control every molecule in your body, those are all understandable, so you're not saying anything new...we agree here.

Now tell me about his flying and his psionic powers and his teleportation and his energy projection and his flying in Rise of Apocalypse. Quote them.

Originally posted by demigawd
In Rise of Apocalypse? He projected energy??? since you're a big fan, you probably have the issue handy. What issue did this happen? I'll look it up, because I remember no such thing...

Saul isn't a bad guy. He's an External. He had no reason to lie about anything.

And Apoc can have as many abilities as he wants...but he's only born with molecular self-control, which by nature precludes the generic psionic abilities that seem to pop up in every one of Apoc's creations. Is it really just a coincidence that every single creation of Apoc has energy projection and psionic abilities, as does Apoc, despite it being in none of their mutant powers?

Here is what I could find:
"Biding his time while he healed, En Sabah Nur worked on the pharaoh's pyramid. While working, he recognized and called out the name of Ozymandias, who, between conquests, was using his time to supervise construction. Outraged at a slave daring to address him by name, he whipped the disguised Nur, who fell from a great height to the ground, far below. Killed by the impact, Nur was astonished to find himself immediately resurrected and visited by a vision of Isis, goddess of the sun. Crackling with energy, En Sabah Nur floated briefly, high enough to be seen by all."

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/article/showquestion.asp?faq=4&fldAuto=84&page=3

THAT is what he's referring to? I guess he left out the part the Eye of Ages played in that whole episode, huh? It was the same enhancement that Apoc used to transform Ozymandias.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Here is what I could find:
"Biding his time while he healed, En Sabah Nur worked on the pharaoh's pyramid. While working, he recognized and called out the name of Ozymandias, who, between conquests, was using his time to supervise construction. Outraged at a slave daring to address him by name, he whipped the disguised Nur, who fell from a great height to the ground, far below. Killed by the impact, Nur was astonished to find himself immediately resurrected and visited by a vision of Isis, goddess of the sun. Crackling with energy, En Sabah Nur floated briefly, high enough to be seen by all."

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/article/showquestion.asp?faq=4&fldAuto=84&page=3

Meh , that seems to be more for dramatic effect of him ether becoming *snicker* godlike (as if apocalypse ever could be) or because a god is talking through/to him

But it does seem to suggest that Apocalypse may have more inherient abilites than previously suspected.

Originally posted by TheKahn
But it does seem to suggest that Apocalypse may have more inherient abilites than previously suspected.

Of course , and my cheese has suddenly jumped off my cracker and is doing the macerana on my keyboard......

Originally posted by TheKahn
But it does seem to suggest that Apocalypse may have more inherient abilites than previously suspected.

Like I said...that was all from the Eye of Ages. It was actually a mini Celestial device that enhanced both Apoc and Ozy at the end of the series.

Originally posted by grey fox
Of course , and my cheese has suddenly jumped off my cracker and is doing the macerana on my keyboard......

Well then, party on 💃 💃 💃

Originally posted by demigawd
Like I said...that was all from the Eye of Ages. It was actually a mini Celestial device that enhanced both Apoc and Ozy at the end of the series.

That is certainly possible. I've never read Rise of Apocalypse but according to that site it only says that the Eye of Ages projected images onto the wall and doesn't mention it alterating Apocalypse at that time. The incident with it transforming Ozy happened after the "resurection". But I could be wrong.

Originally posted by TheKahn
That is certainly possible. I've never read Rise of Apocalypse but according to that site it only says that the Eye of Ages projected images onto the wall and doesn't mention it alterating Apocalypse at that time. The incident with it transforming Ozy happened after the "resurection". But I could be wrong.

Both incidents happened after the resurrection - that was when the Eye was activated (as Isis) and started doing wacky things, like making Nur float and changing Ozy into stone.

Originally posted by demigawd
Both incidents happened after the resurrection - that was when the Eye was activated (as Isis) and started doing wacky things, like making Nur float and changing Ozy into stone.

Yeah, you could argue it either way. It could have been the Eye messing with Apocalypse or it could have been Apocalypse using his own powers (or it could have actually been the goddess Isis). Who knows for sure?

Originally posted by TheKahn
Yeah, you could argue it either way. It could have been the Eye messing with Apocalypse or it could have been Apocalypse using his own powers (or it could have actually been the goddess Isis). Who knows for sure?

The writers ?

Originally posted by grey fox
The writers ?

They didn't even bother explaining what happened to his hair. I think actually making it clear what powers Apocalypse origionally had would be asking too much from them 😉

Hmm *taking notes* telling....writers....to.....expalin....kills...them.

Ok i'm ready for the manga war 😄

Well now, what a nice civil debate we're having. Don't get many of those anymore...

True , i mostly have to beat idiots off with a stick.

By the way, has anyone actually mentioned Dracula in the last couple of pages? 😄

"Blah Blah i vant to suck your blood "

Their that'll do 🙂