Originally posted by Mainstream
not true...he doesn't just understand it he enhanced beyond it's current abilities..he spent like a 1000 years in a spaceship mastering it's secrets. I know I know "if he's mastered it why hasn't he takeover the world?" I don't know why did magneto allow himself to put in a plastic prison....it's a mad mad world.
He enhanced it beyond its current abilities how? Looks the same, acts the same, does the same thing.
And now, it's not even his anymore! hahaha
Originally posted by Mainstream
not true...he doesn't just understand it he enhanced beyond it's current abilities..he spent like a 1000 years in a spaceship mastering it's secrets. I know I know "if he's mastered it why hasn't he takeover the world?" I don't know why did magneto allow himself to put in a plastic prison....it's a mad mad world.
I've heard this said about him before, but my question is always how has he improved upon Celestial technology? Simply understanding it would be impressive enough as the Celestials may be as advanced as it is possible for a race to get. But improving it??? I tend to think that is just hyperbole.
Originally posted by Mainstream
not true...he doesn't just understand it he enhanced beyond it's current abilities..he spent like a 1000 years in a spaceship mastering it's secrets. I know I know "if he's mastered it why hasn't he takeover the world?" I don't know why did magneto allow himself to put in a plastic prison....it's a mad mad world.
He spent like, a couple HUNDRED years (maybe) inside learning the secrets of the tech. He had to be in Victorian England to make Sinster....
Remember: This theory that you all have about Apocalypse's dependency on Celestial tech. is based on an one old man's account who -- last time I checked-- wasn't that fond of Apocalypse. And that is the only account of it. No others their to back it up. All we have to go on is Saul who, last time I checked, wasn't very a good guy.
No official word or standpoint from Marvel exists as to what exactly happened with Apocalypse and celestial technology. (sans Sauls memory).....
Now go ahead, argue all you want that I'm wrong, but it's true, there is no account of what Apocalypse did while he was in that ship from that time, to the Crusades.
Originally posted by APOCALYPSE NUR
He spent like, a couple HUNDRED years (maybe) inside learning the secrets of the tech. He had to be in Victorian England to make Sinster....Remember: This theory that you all have about Apocalypse's dependency on Celestial tech. is based on an one old man's account who -- last time I checked-- wasn't that fond of Apocalypse. And that is the only account of it. No others their to back it up. All we have to go on is Saul who, last time I checked, wasn't very a good guy.
No official word or standpoint from Marvel exists as to what exactly happened with Apocalypse and celestial technology. (sans Sauls memory).....Now go ahead, argue all you want that I'm wrong, but it's true, there is no account of what Apocalypse did while he was in that ship from that time, to the Crusades.
Why would Saul have any reason to lie? he was giving an account of what happened?
Most Horsemen of Apoc get Celestial enhancements. Why would he enhance everybody but himself?
Sinister went from being human to having very similar abilities to Apoc due to Celestial enhancements
That heir to Apoc in Apoc/Dracula said he had all of Apoc's natural abilities - all he did was change shapes and sizes
During Rise of Apoc, Apoc didn't show any teleporting/psionic/flying/energy blasting/invisbility detection abilities
Why does Apoc need to sleep in a Celestial rejuvenation chamber if it's all his natural power?
What was Apoc doing in a ship for 1000 years, only to come out looking completely different, but did nothing to himself and did nothing else with the Ship?
And who is born with a dozen mutant abilities? You get ONE. Apoc's was and always will be, "molecular self-control"...anything in addition to that isn't part of his stated mutant power.
I mean, I understand that Marvel editorial never came out and released a press statement saying, "these are the powers that Apoc was born with and these are the powers he was not", but put all the circumstantial evidence together and it's pretty clear that the conclusion that Apoc gained his million or so other powers through celestial enhancements is pretty sound.
Originally posted by demigawd
He enhanced it beyond its current abilities how? Looks the same, acts the same, does the same thing.And now, it's not even his anymore! hahaha
indeed
Aside from his superhuman powers, Apocalypse is also extraordinarily intelligent, a genius with knowledge of science and technology centuries ahead of conventional science. This was not merely a result of his exposure to alien technology, as he was able to make significant new advances beyond the alien materials to which he was exposed.
um ha ha ha to you too dear brother.
Originally posted by Mainstream
indeedAside from his superhuman powers, Apocalypse is also extraordinarily intelligent, a genius with knowledge of science and technology centuries ahead of conventional science. This was not merely a result of his exposure to alien technology, as he was able to make significant new advances beyond the alien materials to which he was exposed.
um ha ha ha to you too dear brother.
That wasn't my question...my question was WHAT advancements has he made and WHEN did he make them?
Originally posted by demigawd
During Rise of Apoc, Apoc didn't show any teleporting/psionic/flying/energy blasting/invisbility detection abilities
Dude, seriously, you need to read that comic.
He DID levitate, He DID project massive amounts of energy, In fact, he did them both at the same time.
Saul is a bad guy. I might be mistaken, but don't bad guys lie often??? (just a thought).
"Why would Apocalypse have more than one ability?"
.................. 🤨 🤨 😕 .........because he's a bad ass villain???..........maybe?????..............yes................yes that's it.
Originally posted by Mainstream
indeedAside from his superhuman powers, Apocalypse is also extraordinarily intelligent, a genius with knowledge of science and technology centuries ahead of conventional science. This was not merely a result of his exposure to alien technology, as he was able to make significant new advances beyond the alien materials to which he was exposed.
um ha ha ha to you too dear brother.
Good, and thanks for your support. But even wikipedia isn't the best place to get info. on APOCALYPSE.
I don't care, as long as you support APOCALYPSE I support you.
Originally posted by APOCALYPSE NUR
Dude, seriously, you need to read that comic.He DID levitate, He DID project massive amounts of energy, In fact, he did them both at the same time.
Saul is a bad guy. I might be mistaken, but don't bad guys lie often??? (just a thought).
"Why would Apocalypse have more than one ability?"
.................. 🤨 🤨 😕 .........because he's a bad ass villain???..........maybe?????..............yes................yes that's it.
What is this the seventies ?
Just because the cowboy is wearing a black hat doesn't mean he's the villain of the story .....
Originally posted by APOCALYPSE NUR
Dude, seriously, you need to read that comic.He DID levitate, He DID project massive amounts of energy, In fact, he did them both at the same time.
Saul is a bad guy. I might be mistaken, but don't bad guys lie often??? (just a thought).
"Why would Apocalypse have more than one ability?"
.................. 🤨 🤨 😕 .........because he's a bad ass villain???..........maybe?????..............yes................yes that's it.
In Rise of Apocalypse? He projected energy??? since you're a big fan, you probably have the issue handy. What issue did this happen? I'll look it up, because I remember no such thing...
Saul isn't a bad guy. He's an External. He had no reason to lie about anything.
And Apoc can have as many abilities as he wants...but he's only born with molecular self-control, which by nature precludes the generic psionic abilities that seem to pop up in every one of Apoc's creations. Is it really just a coincidence that every single creation of Apoc has energy projection and psionic abilities, as does Apoc, despite it being in none of their mutant powers?
you know those little cd disk you young people like to listen to with your boom boxes in your cars going ...BOOMA BOOMA CHA CHA BOOMA BOOMA WEEEEESTSIDDE. Apocalypse made them. you know the ketchup bottles that don't get all messy when the ketchup comes out? he made them too. that is why we give thanks to Apocalypse..the first blue african mutant. we black folks are so cool!!!
but seriously I can't think of a one...except the lightening teleport trick he did to get Gazer to his temple from outspace. they chatted about it.
Gazer: I saw a bright light then I was here!how did you do that?
Apocalypse: that is unimportant.
I was kinda surprised Apocalypse didn't gloat about it...all the big name villians love to gloat. Lex, Doom, Magneto, Kingpin, Joker, just to name a few.