Apocalypse vs Dracula

Originally posted by demigawd
Except Apoc would have fallen forever if he didn't get help. That's a pretty clean win. Apoc has shown the ability to levitate, but not fly. There's a big difference between the two.

He didn't overpower Magneto with his blast. That was how Apoc got into that trouble in the first place. Magneto knocked Apoc into the wall, then they blasted each other, then magneto blasted Apoc again and Apoc went flying out the window.

I remember that scene quite clearly , magneto was lying on the floor , raised his hand ( the weird line and noise effect happens) and apocalypse went straight through that wall falling into the static electricity style end of all time.....

Originally posted by demigawd
When was this? In every timeline, every encounter they've had, Apoc has lost. In HoM, he was working basically as Magneto's hitman and given some scraps of land in Northern Africa as his reward. If that's not ownage, I don't know what is.

Be serious.

Originally posted by demigawd
A couple of administrative notes here:

1) The Thanos who was beaten by Tarza...er, Kazaar was, in fact, a low grade clone, as Thanos revealed later.

2) The Thanos arrested by police and taken away in handcuffs by the NYPD was part of some kind of promotional kids comic book that was entirely non-canon.

3) Apocalypse stalemating Loki was generally seen as a high feat for Apocalypse, since Loki was written at his most powerful during that time. Be proud of it

4) The "table leg" incident refers to Apoc ducking when Namor threw a table at him. The thought goes that if Apoc were as bad ass as people would have him believe, he wouldn't have to run for his life from a simple wooden table...it would just harmlessly bounce off of him.

5) Apoc did indeed enhance his powers with Celestial tech, which is how he developed the buttload of powers he has today. Prior to that, his only power was high level shapeshifting. His energy wielding, levitation, and occasional psi-oriented abilities are all from his tech. His mutant power is self molecular control. What effect that has on his strength is in question, since Apoc's only real superhuman strength feat was restraining the Hulk, but given his position relative to the Hulk's, Spider-Man could have restrained Hulk the same way if he were taller, so it's not a really great strength feat.

6)Apoc should be written more powerfully than he is, but nobody should be pitting him against the likes of Thanos or Darkseid just because they're all blue/grey and scary.

7)Magneto seems to own Apoc in every timeline. Must be Marvel's way of telling us something

8) It's "hysterics".

9)Welcome to the board Apocalypse Nur.

That concludes the administrative notes for the day.

Carry on!

HE fought aganst Loki at his best and High Evolutionary, PE Iakris and then you mention some table, being scared of table, come on man. Wasn't scared of tha blast of Loki and High Evolutionary, PE Ikaris and than of soem some insignificatn table. That is the typical bad writing of Apocalypse and shouldn't be takne seriously.

''Magneto claims to be no fool, and he never believed him, and doesn't seem to be alone in this distrust, as Death joins his side, soon demorphing into the female form of Mystique. Apocalypse bursts from the rubble, calling the pair traitors as he returns to his feet, and noting that they dared to attack their master, he morphs his hand into a futuristic cannon, and proceeds to fire upon them. The mutants leap away from the destructive blasts, and immediately fire back, Mystique with her laser-pistol, and Magnus with his own magnetism waves, retorting that he calls no one master, especially one who would destroy the innocent along with the guilty. Apocalypse is unfazed by their attacks, telling the mutant to spare him his petty judgments, since they spring from a brain too meager to comprehend his reality. Growing in size, his eyes surging with energy, Apocalypse tells the pair to taste his power, as he releases a beam of laserforce from his chest. Magneto pours on his magnetic energy, struggling to hold back the stream of orange light, calling it poisonous. It overwhelms him considerably, and soon the pair of pressing powers ignite into an explosion, that, though it knocks Magnus backwards, gives him a chance to fire another swath of magnetism at Apocalypse. It's a lucky shot with a lot of power behind it, and though it doesn't harm the immortal one iota, the force is enough to slam him back against the brittle, ancient stone wall of the dungeon.''

That sound as Magneto being joke to Apocalypse (being Magneto power CONSIDERABLY overwhlemed by Apocalypse and than putting Apocalypse with lot of power thorugh the wall, but doesn't hurt Apocalyse for one iota, that sounds Magneto being joke to Apocalypse)

And in both of cartoons and games, Magneto was joke to Apocalypse.

Originally posted by Xplosive
HE fought aganst Loki at his best and High Evolutionary, PE Iakris and then you mention some table, being scared of table, come on man. Wasn't scared of tha blast of Loki and High Evolutionary, PE Ikaris and than of soem some insignificatn table. That is the typical bad writing of Apocalypse and shouldn't be takne seriously.

''Magneto claims to be no fool, and he never believed him, and doesn't seem to be alone in this distrust, as Death joins his side, soon demorphing into the female form of Mystique. Apocalypse bursts from the rubble, calling the pair traitors as he returns to his feet, and noting that they dared to attack their master, he morphs his hand into a futuristic cannon, and proceeds to fire upon them. The mutants leap away from the destructive blasts, and immediately fire back, Mystique with her laser-pistol, and Magnus with his own magnetism waves, retorting that he calls no one master, especially one who would destroy the innocent along with the guilty. Apocalypse is unfazed by their attacks, telling the mutant to spare him his petty judgments, since they spring from a brain too meager to comprehend his reality. Growing in size, his eyes surging with energy, Apocalypse tells the pair to taste his power, as he releases a beam of laserforce from his chest. Magneto pours on his magnetic energy, struggling to hold back the stream of orange light, calling it poisonous. It overwhelms him considerably, and soon the pair of pressing powers ignite into an explosion, that, though it knocks Magnus backwards, gives him a chance to fire another swath of magnetism at Apocalypse. It's a lucky shot with a lot of power behind it, and though it doesn't harm the immortal one iota, the force is enough to slam him back against the brittle, ancient stone wall of the dungeon.''

That sound as Magneto being joke to Apocalypse (being Magneto power CONSIDERABLY overwhlemed by Apocalypse and than putting Apocalypse with lot of power thorugh the wall, but doesn't hurt Apocalyse for one iota, that sounds Magneto being joke to Apocalypse)

And in both of cartoons and games, Magneto was joke to Apocalypse.

Wrong-o

Magneto is still human , for all the upgrades and powers he has , at the end of the day abin sur is still a mortal man.

Mag's concentrates for a few seconds and BAM , drags all of the blood away from apocalypses heart causing him to choke to death.

are you vinished talking insanity? is that why its happend before, beings who can be more powerful then mags couldnt do it but mags can righttttttt you gonna tell me mags can beat loki or high evolutionary who threatened to devolve galactus?

Originally posted by Mider
are you vinished talking insanity? is that why its happend before, beings who can be more powerful then mags couldnt do it but mags can righttttttt you gonna tell me mags can beat loki or high evolutionary who threatened to devolve galactus?

No I'm talking sense not insanity , and no mag's can do it not because he is powerful but because of what his power is .

well i guess thor should have teleported mags to his location to stop the celestials since you think mags can manipulate celestial armor or even get past it

Originally posted by Xplosive
Be serious.

Are you telling me that didn't happen?

Originally posted by Xplosive
HE fought aganst Loki at his best and High Evolutionary, PE Iakris and then you mention some table, being scared of table, come on man. Wasn't scared of tha blast of Loki and High Evolutionary, PE Ikaris and than of soem some insignificatn table. That is the typical bad writing of Apocalypse and shouldn't be takne seriously.

''Magneto claims to be no fool, and he never believed him, and doesn't seem to be alone in this distrust, as Death joins his side, soon demorphing into the female form of Mystique. Apocalypse bursts from the rubble, calling the pair traitors as he returns to his feet, and noting that they dared to attack their master, he morphs his hand into a futuristic cannon, and proceeds to fire upon them. The mutants leap away from the destructive blasts, and immediately fire back, Mystique with her laser-pistol, and Magnus with his own magnetism waves, retorting that he calls no one master, especially one who would destroy the innocent along with the guilty. Apocalypse is unfazed by their attacks, telling the mutant to spare him his petty judgments, since they spring from a brain too meager to comprehend his reality. Growing in size, his eyes surging with energy, Apocalypse tells the pair to taste his power, as he releases a beam of laserforce from his chest. Magneto pours on his magnetic energy, struggling to hold back the stream of orange light, calling it poisonous. It overwhelms him considerably, and soon the pair of pressing powers ignite into an explosion, that, though it knocks Magnus backwards, gives him a chance to fire another swath of magnetism at Apocalypse. It's a lucky shot with a lot of power behind it, and though it doesn't harm the immortal one iota, the force is enough to slam him back against the brittle, ancient stone wall of the dungeon.''

That sound as Magneto being joke to Apocalypse (being Magneto power CONSIDERABLY overwhlemed by Apocalypse and than putting Apocalypse with lot of power thorugh the wall, but doesn't hurt Apocalyse for one iota, that sounds Magneto being joke to Apocalypse)

And in both of cartoons and games, Magneto was joke to Apocalypse.

hahaha....that's the most biased Apoc fanboy interpretation of that episode I ever read. "Apoc wasn't hurt, but the WALL was so brittle that he tripped and fell through it".

HAHAHAHAHA.

And Mystique's pistol played 0 part in that whole thing. And they're leaving out the part where Magneto throws Apoc into a series of columns with a blast. When Apoc got up, THEN he grew in size. Magneto never struggled at all...he leaped back and blasted Apoc again, knocking him out the building.

Fragile wall my ass, hahaha.

Originally posted by Mider
are you vinished talking insanity? is that why its happend before, beings who can be more powerful then mags couldnt do it but mags can righttttttt you gonna tell me mags can beat loki or high evolutionary who threatened to devolve galactus?

Anybody can threaten anybody with anything...it doesn't matter. High Evolutionary got owned by Galactus. Furthermore, of course Magneto could beat them both. High Evolutionary's power varies wildly...at his most powerful, he could easily destroy Apoc or Magneto. As he was written there, he'd lose to Magneto.

Originally posted by Mider
well i guess thor should have teleported mags to his location to stop the celestials since you think mags can manipulate celestial armor or even get past it

Are you comparing Apoc to a Celestial?????

Xplosive stop already , your arguments are fanboy trash and your masking a grade A ass of yourself

Originally posted by grey fox
Xplosive stop already , your arguments are fanboy trash and your masking a grade A ass of yourself

Look stupid idiot, and what is Demigawd or you, stupid ass. Go home and suck your prick.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Look stupid idiot, and what is Demigawd or you, stupid ass. Go home and suck your prick.

Hah , once again proving yourself to be a fanboy. Upon realising your total and utter defeat you whine and try to insult me with pathetic verbal slurs which a 12 year old could think up.

Love is in the air... 😍

your the one proving to be a liar more then a fanboy magneto just didnt snap his fingers and beat apocalypse it was a lucky shot i should know i use to own every x-men episode in that series and i do remeber the battle what xplosive said was true, and no im not compareing him to a celestial but his armer seems to be that of celestial origin and thus i think that magneto shouldnt have power of celestial tech and no one is saying apocalypse cant be defeated that is what a fanboy is you are just a plain liar saying that that happend in the episode apocalypse was outnumbered it was a pure PIS moment cause Apocalypse had been shown to fly earlyer in the series so how can he fall down into nothingness if he can fly? magneto was straining just trying to protect himself from the beam in the end he had to get out of the way, and even before that i remeber mags being cought by apocalypse in a giant claw like thing while mystique shot him in the back in other episodes with Apocalypse in that show he nearly killed the entire team every time they met up.

Originally posted by Mider
your the one proving to be a liar more then a fanboy magneto just didnt snap his fingers and beat apocalypse it was a lucky shot i should know i use to own every x-men episode in that series and i do remeber the battle what xplosive said was true, and no im not compareing him to a celestial but his armer seems to be that of celestial origin and thus i think that magneto shouldnt have power of celestial tech and no one is saying apocalypse cant be defeated that is what a fanboy is you are just a plain liar saying that that happend in the episode apocalypse was outnumbered it was a pure PIS moment cause Apocalypse had been shown to fly earlyer in the series so how can he fall down into nothingness if he can fly? magneto was straining just trying to protect himself from the beam in the end he had to get out of the way, and even before that i remeber mags being cought by apocalypse in a giant claw like thing while mystique shot him in the back in other episodes with Apocalypse in that show he nearly killed the entire team every time they met up.

did somebody here say that Magneto beat apoc with a snap of the finger? I don't remember saying it, and I don't remember it being said. What I did say was that in their one and only cartoon confrontation, Magneto was standing tall at the end of it and Apoc was on his way to oblivion until his horsemen saved him.

Combine that with the fact that Apoc was killed by Magneto in AOA, and Apoc's precious Celestial Ship was messed up something good by Magneto.

Combine that with the fact that Apoc was Magneto's little yes man in HoM

And you have yourself a nice little picture of the Marvel pecking order and Apoc's place in it.

Them's the facts...live with it. 😄

Originally posted by demigawd
did somebody here say that Magneto beat apoc with a snap of the finger? I don't remember saying it, and I don't remember it being said. What I did say was that in their one and only cartoon confrontation, Magneto was standing tall at the end of it and Apoc was on his way to oblivion until his horsemen saved him.

Combine that with the fact that Apoc was killed by Magneto in AOA, and Apoc's precious Celestial Ship was messed up something good by Magneto.

Combine that with the fact that Apoc was Magneto's little yes man in HoM

And you have yourself a nice little picture of the Marvel pecking order and Apoc's place in it.

Them's the facts...live with it. 😄

Nice

Given the nature of his powers and the fact that he has access to some of the most advanced technology in the Marvel Universe, Apocalypse should be at the top of the mutant hieriarchy.
However, as great as his potential as a character is, the fact remains that he just hasn't done that many impressive feats. I mean what has he really done to demonstrate a massive amount of power? By creating Horsemen?

Probably because Apoc, as he said, doesn't understand much of the tech he uses. It's kinda like your mom being a fast typist, but trying to figure out how to use Macros in Microsoft Word...

Originally posted by demigawd
5) Apoc did indeed enhance his powers with Celestial tech, which is how he developed the buttload of powers he has today. Prior to that, his only power was high level shapeshifting. His energy wielding, levitation, and occasional psi-oriented abilities are all from his tech. His mutant power is self molecular control. What effect that has on his strength is in question, since Apoc's only real superhuman strength feat was restraining the Hulk, but given his position relative to the Hulk's, Spider-Man could have restrained Hulk the same way if he were taller, so it's not a really great strength feat.

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To coin a phrase--

Originally posted by Spawnrules:

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His mutant power' S (plural), are:
super FREAKIN' strength (100+tons, don't give a SH** what anybody says), healing factor, longevity, growing, high level shapeshifting, enery projection,...

It's all here, in this pamphlet (maybe you've heard of it?):

RISE OF APOCALYPSE #'s 1-4

I..............I............hate it-- HATE IT when people do this...

Will have more after I check on this potential aneurysm....

Originally posted by APOCALYPSE NUR
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To coin a phrase--

Originally posted by Spawnrules:

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

His mutant power' S (plural), are: super FREAKIN' strength (100+tons, don't give a SH** what anybody says), healing factor, longevity, growing, high level shapeshifting, enery projection,...
It's all here, in this pamphlet (maybe you've heard of it?):

RISE OF APOCALYPSE #'s 1-4

I..............I............hate -- HATE IT when people do this... [/B]

Oh really? Then show me his energy projection powers in Rise of Apocalypse. Show me him lifting 100+ tons of anything in Rise of Apoc (in fact, show me him lifting 100+ tons of anything...ever).

The rest of the powers you named (growing, shape shifting, healing factor, longevity) are all kinda part of the same thing. If you can control your own molecular structure, you can make yourself bigger, stronger, rejuvenate your own cells so that they don't die.

But it doesn't give you energy blasts. Or telepathy. Or telekinesis. Or teleportation abilities.

Which is fortunately, because he never showed any of that in Rise of Apocalypse, lol.

Originally posted by demigawd
Probably because Apoc, as he said, doesn't understand much of the tech he uses. It's kinda like your mom being a fast typist, but trying to figure out how to use Macros in Microsoft Word...

not true...he doesn't just understand it he enhanced beyond it's current abilities..he spent like a 1000 years in a spaceship mastering it's secrets. I know I know "if he's mastered it why hasn't he takeover the world?" I don't know why did magneto allow himself to put in a plastic prison....it's a mad mad world.