Namor Vs She hulk · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Latest editions. Ooops 😮
His arrogance and love for green speedos. 😱
Rubbish and very hypocritical. There is also a very definitive pattern in your debating style with myself. You'll smugly enter a debate im contributing to for no reason other than to try and prove me wrong. When you inevitably fail somewhere down the line you get aggravated and start accusing me of of being needlessly insulting or sarcastic when any such remarks of that nature are merely a response to your "witty" initial attempts to discredit. 🙁

"Latest editions. Ooops "

What editions ?

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Namor has probably more training in martial arts then Cap does. I know that Cap went through rigorous physical and combat training prior him getting through Super Soldier Experiment, but how long did this last? Weeks? Months? During that time Namor had already at least ten years of headstart in fighting training. Fighting experience can get you pretty far. So, Namor has more experience in fighting then Cap, and he started martial arts training long before Cap started his.
Besides, Atlantis has long perfected it's martial arts before surface world. I think their training is comparable. If Namor would suddenly reverted to Cap's level, he would probably lose, because he would need to get used to being in body much weaker then his. But if he had lived through all those years with human body, and had the same training he would be near or equivalent of Cap in hand to hand combat.
And I believe that Rating 7 means that the one with such rating has perfected all forms of hand to hand combat. It's hard to believe that he has mastered most of the hundreds of martial arts, and it is impossible that he would have mastered them ALL.
All I have seen about Captain's martial arts prowess is him being master of Judo and American Boxing. And I am not saying that he could not be one of the worlds most formidable combatants with those two...with his experience, he has probably gotten bits of other forms of fighting, maybe mastered few more. But all? I don't think so.
Maybe if he hadn't spent all that time inside that cube.
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Anyway, we are going away from the topic.
It's an fact that Namor is vstly more experienced in hand to hand combat then She-Hulk.

Thats a whole lotta speculation DC. Namor has trained in Atlantean warfare and thats that hence his rating of experienced fighter. He relies more on his superhuman attributes than his martial arts skills in the majority of his encounters.

Cap on the other hand according to Marvel has mastered most forms of martial arts on Earth and is a top ranking fighter in Marvel. Hence his rating.

All Cap has are his martial art skills so its quite believable that he would be more proficient in that area than someone with superhuman attributes. Either way officially he is a better martial artist and all speculation aside thats how he's presented in the comics.

I agree that Namor probably is a more skilled fighter than She Hulk however she has beat him before prior to her training with Cap and since that bout she has vastly increased in strength and has been intensively trained by Captain America. On top of that like it or not taking out the Champion is a feat and a decent indicator of her skills. So now that Namor cant fly in this match im edging towards She Hulk even more.

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by yahman
"Latest editions. Ooops "
What editions ?

The last bios of both Herc and Thor had their strengths at 7 in comparison to Namors 6. It would have been Avengers 2004 i believe. 🙂

yahman Restricted

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats a whole lotta speculation DC. Namor has trained in Atlantean warfare and thats that hence his rating of experienced fighter. He relies more on his superhuman attributes than his martial arts skills in the majority of his encounters.
On top of that like it or not taking out the Champion is a feat and a decent indicator of her skills. So now that Namor cant fly in this match im edging towards She Hulk even more.

What in a boxing match against the biggest Jobber in marvel ?

😕

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by yahman
What in a boxing match against the biggest Jobber in marvel ?
😕

I like the change of focus. Its very Whirly. 🙂

yahman Restricted

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The last bios of both Herc and Thor had their strengths at 7 in comparison to Namors 6. It would have been Avengers 2004 i believe. 🙂

IMO bios mean as much at the Daily Mail .... but Namor was updated to class 100 in the House of M edition . In mortal form Herc, struggled to lift an Object which was about the size of an Aircraft Carrier bridge ! Namor has lifted Ocean Liners !!!!!!!!! His fight record is just as impressive !

DarkCrawler KABOOOOM!!

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

I agree that Namor probably is a more skilled fighter than She Hulk however she has beat him before prior to her training with Cap and since that bout she has vastly increased in strength and has been intensively trained by Captain America. On top of that like it or not taking out the Champion is a feat and a decent indicator of her skills. So now that Namor cant fly in this match im edging towards She Hulk even more.

Namor still remains with hundred year of experience in hand to hand combat, which makes She-Hulks training with Captain America miniscule. Namor has sparred with Cap lot of times, also. Namor is faster then She-Hulk, too.

And her taking out Champion? Yeah...I don't really think her taking out someone with 13 BILLION years of fighting experience after training for FEW WEEKS is pretty much a ridicolous feat that falls under SvFL category.

And how come Namor can't fly?

yahman Restricted

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I like the change of focus. Its very Whirly. 🙂

Once again !

'There is a definitive pattern, that always emerges when debating with you G.S. You start off debating normally, but as soon as you cannot counter a point, you address it with your ridiculously overly used assortment of sarcastic remarks !'

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by yahman
IMO bios mean as much at the Daily Mail .... but Namor was updated to class 100 in the House of M, one . In mortal Herc form struggled to lift an Object which was about the size of an Aircraft Carrier bridge ! Namor has lifted Ocean Liners !!!!!!!!! His fight record is just as impressive !

Namors last entry in the handbooks had him as class 100 as well. He was just put below Herc and Thor who were level 7.

Either way all of this waffle is unnecessary. Namor is below Herc according to Marvel and hercs latest showings such as dragging the carrier and knocking out abom show that he's fighting fit currently.

Namor has done nothing as impressive recently and when he was pulling off impressive stuff so was Hercules. Either way She hulks considerably stronger than Herc who all in all has been presented as being beyond Namor as shown in their latest bios and when you sum up comic appearances. She hulk is considerably stronger than Namor.

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by yahman
Once again !
'There is a definitive pattern, that always emerges when debating with you G.S. You start off debating normally, but as soon as you cannot counter a point, you address it with your ridiculously overly used assortment of sarcastic remarks !'

We were following a line of argument. Instead of countering or responding to my point you changed focus. I commented on this which in turn made you get back on track. Ok? 😉

yahman Restricted

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Namor still remains with hundred year of experience in hand to hand combat, which makes She-Hulks training with Captain America miniscule. Namor has sparred with Cap lot of times, also. Namor is faster then She-Hulk, too.
And her taking out Champion? Yeah...I don't really think her taking out someone with 13 BILLION years of fighting experience after training for FEW WEEKS is pretty much a ridicolous feat that falls under SvFL category.
And how come Namor can't fly?

Do you have any scans of Namor flattening that rather large building in Defenders 4 ?

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by yahman
Once again !
'There is a definitive pattern, that always emerges when debating with you G.S. You start off debating normally, but as soon as you cannot counter a point, you address it with your ridiculously overly used assortment of sarcastic remarks !'

ohhh you notice 😆

Namor wins

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Anyway im bored with this thread for the mo. Back later mate.

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by kgkg
ohhh you notice 😆

Oh dont you start. 😉

I only ever start in response. Yahman initiates and then cries about what he gets in return. 🙄

DarkCrawler KABOOOOM!!

Originally posted by yahman
Do you have any scans of Namor flattening that rather large building in Defenders 4 ?

Yep.

He did it with one punch. 😉

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Rubbish and very hypocritical. There is also a very definitive pattern in your debating style with myself. You'll smugly enter a debate im contributing to for no reason other than to try and prove me wrong. When you inevitably fail somewhere down the line you get aggravated and start accusing me of of being needlessly insulting or sarcastic when any such remarks of that nature are merely a response to your "witty" initial attempts to discredit. 🙁

yahman Restricted

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Namors last entry in the handbooks had him as class 100 as well. He was just put below Herc and Thor who were level 7.
Either way all of this waffle is unnecessary. Namor is below Herc according to Marvel and hercs latest showings such as dragging the carrier and knocking out abom show that he's fighting fit currently.
Namor has done nothing as impressive recently and when he was pulling off impressive stuff so was Hercules. Either way She hulks considerably stronger than Herc who all in all has been presented as being beyond Namor as shown in their latest bios and when you sum up comic appearances. She hulk is considerably stronger than Namor.

"Namor has done nothing as impressive recently "

Except take on the Hulk when he was out of water ! Hurt the In betweener ! Prevent a large boat from being sucked into a vortex, Flatten a huge Sky scraper with one punch ! Nah nothing impressive at all 🙄

"Namor has done nothing as impressive recently and when he was pulling off impressive stuff so was Hercules."

And then there was a retcon .... and his power was diminished ! Namor is still at the same strength level as he has always been, while Herc has struggled lifting what he referred to as 'a triffle'.

The Abom incident was down to a sucker punch,similar to the incident involving the Omac and Eradicator.

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