Originally posted by Adam Warlock
More like a 5 day plus tally. I saw Superman Returns on Tuesday at 10:00pm. It was in all theatres on Wednesday. It only grossed 52 million domestically on the 3 day weekend. 84 million if you add up all 5 days. Check out how many theatres are showing Superman. Within a week or two, that money will start to fall. It'll never reach Spiderman's success. Only in the eyes of Superman fans it will.http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/boxoffice/;_ylt=AoDdCP8wK4oEWHO9Q6uKDdFfVXcA
Is that 147 million what it grossed world wide?
Thats the proof in the pudding right there that people are tired of superman these days.That he doesnt have anywhere near the popularity that spidey has.You were blinded by your love for supes First of North so much that you were not thinking logically.In his hey day back in the 40's and 50's Supes was popular with people,NOW people have grown tiresome of him where with spidey,he is more popular now than he was back in the 60's.But you were just too blinded by your love for superman to be reasonable about it.Again I got to use my Nixon and JFK movies as a good comparison.Even though Dick Nixon and JFK are just as much equally well known,most people loved JFK thats why the movie was popular.Where with Dick Nixon just about everybody hates him and thats why the movie NIXON was a flop at the theaters because of how unpoupular he is.Same with supes,he is just not popular with folks anymore these days like spidey is.the box office proves that.
btw,my user name may sound like I am being biased here but not true.this is coming from someone who ahtes the spider-man movies with a passion.Just look at my message below my user name. 😉
Originally posted by SupezM'Studios don't take 100% of box office gross. $260 is the production budget, and excludes what by rough estimate around $50-60 million in domestic prints and advertising alone.
$242 Million World-Wide.Un-official budget cost $260 Million, I dont think it cost that much to make SR. According to Brian Singer and some WB officials it cost around 160-200 Million to make, so not sure on the actual figures.
They made their money back, and with DVD sales it will have been a profitable movie.
Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
With all due respect, Wrathful Dwarf, I'm fine with not insulting people. However, if you're going to allow people like MattDay to stay on this board, that's kind of like saying you don't support terrorism, and then allow Hezbollah to set up shop in your back yard. MattDay has posted several time on several different Superman threads that he hopes people, including myself, get shot. He's also directly insulted and cursed out xmarksthespot for doing nothing other than quoting some box office numbers to him. Call me crazy, call me a damn dirty ape, but if people are allowed to say that they hope they can see you shot in the street or curse you out, without public reprimand, than I think a hostile response is in order.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes, because calling someone a halfwit when he clearly is one is obviously tantamount to referring to someone as "mother f u c ker i take it... f uck head" without any provocation.
The two of you can agree with each other on whatever. I'm making it clear from this point on that if catch ANYONE trading insults both parties will be removed. Now this argument is over and EVERYONE is warned. Back on the topic at hand.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Studios don't take 100% of box office gross. $260 is the production budget, and excludes what by rough estimate around $50-60 million in domestic prints and advertising alone.
Like I said $260 million is speculation, WB hasnt confirmed a production cost. Bret Ratner left production because his production cost of $234 was more then WB wanted to spend on the film. According to Brian Singer the final cost was in the ballpark of $180-200.
There are other things they make their money on, like endorsements and memorabilia.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
Thats the proof in the pudding right there that people are tired of superman these days.That he doesnt have anywhere near the popularity that spidey has.You were blinded by your love for supes First of North so much that you were not thinking logically.In his hey day back in the 40's and 50's Supes was popular with people,NOW people have grown tiresome of him where with spidey,he is more popular now than he was back in the 60's.But you were just too blinded by your love for superman to be reasonable about it.Again I got to use my Nixon and JFK movies as a good comparison.Even though Dick Nixon and JFK are just as much equally well known,most people loved JFK thats why the movie was popular.Where with Dick Nixon just about everybody hates him and thats why the movie NIXON was a flop at the theaters because of how unpoupular he is.Same with supes,he is just not popular with folks anymore these days like spidey is.the box office proves that.btw,my user name may sound like I am being biased here but not true.this is coming from someone who ahtes the spider-man movies with a passion.Just look at my message below my user name. 😉
Forget Mr. Parker. Nothing makes him happy - he hates the films about his own character, despite their huge success.
Originally posted by SupezM'Singer gave a figure of $204 million. That is likely an understatement. No director wants to be seen as fiscally irresponsible. Add to that around $40-50 million in pre-production development hell and you have yourselves a ballpark figure of $250-260 million. Then add $40-60 million in marketing and prints. The add overseas marketing and prints. Then multiply by two. And you get the approximate box office gross this movie has to make to break even. Where they managed to spend $250 million I have no idea.
Like I said $260 million is speculation, WB hasnt confirmed a production cost. Bret Ratner left production because his production cost of $234 was more then WB wanted to spend on the film. According to Brian Singer the final cost was in the ballpark of $180-200.There are other things they make their money on, like endorsements and memorabilia.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Singer gave a figure of $204 million. That is likely an understatement. No director wants to be seen as fiscally irresponsible. Add to that around $40-50 million in pre-production development hell and you have yourselves a ballpark figure of $250-260 million. Then add $40-60 million in marketing and prints. The add overseas marketing and prints. Then multiply by two. And you get the approximate box office gross this movie has to make to break even. Where they managed to spend $250 million I have no idea.
One of the funniest pieces of that 40-50 million "pre-production development hell" is the 20 million WB allegedly had to pay Nicholas Cage for wrapping him up to play Supes in one of the abortive early scripts. Nicholas Cage! Again, it just goes to show you how utterly disjointed WB's efforts were in bringing this movie out. You get the impression that after WB wracked up a pre-production tab equivalent to half the budget for a "normal" major motion picture, they just panicked and took the first script that looked half-way decent to them--which gives you an idea of how many bad scripts there must be floating around out there.
LOL, Superman's stood as the best, most popular DC hero for about seven decades. Now you're telling the internet that suddenly he's just not popular? I guess that's why smallville's soon to be in its 6th season.
Superman's still very popular. This movie however, is not a good enough superman movie for the majority, and that's why it's having trouble at the B.O. There's no secret mystery, that's the cold truth. I've read it here and everywhere. "superman's not popular anymore. today's people can't handle superman's boyscout personality, they want batman and spidey" If anything, those two were more boyscouts than this stalker/peeping-tom depressed superman. The movie was boring, and rehashed too much from a better movie, so people didn't tell their friends to go see it. i think it's that simple.
And yes, Mr. Parker. Organics suck. You now have an ally.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Superman is the Icon of superheros. Only delusional hate filling fanboys belittle him.
Yeah true.I myself dont belittle him.I just have never found him anywhere near as much of an interesting character as batman or spidey.But that wont stop me from saying that Superman the movie is still the greatest comicbook movie of all time.I plan on seeing superman returns this weekend so lets wait and see if that still holds true after the weekend.Im sure it will though.I mean Chris Reeve to me will always be in the same catagory as supes like Bill Bixby was as doc banner.I was so much against a hulk movie being made because to me,Bill Bixby is the one and only true doc banner.There is no other.Same with Reeve as Superman.I just cant imiagine anybody else in that role.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
Yeah true.I myself dont belittle him.I just have never found him anywhere near as much of an interesting character as batman or spidey.But that wont stop me from saying that Superman the movie is still the greatest comicbook movie of all time.I plan on seeing superman returns this weekend so lets wait and see if that still holds true after the weekend.Im sure it will though.I mean Chris Reeve to me will always be in the same catagory as supes like Bill Bixby was as doc banner.I was so much against a hulk movie being made because to me,Bill Bixby is the one and only true doc banner.There is no other.Same with Reeve as Superman.I just cant imiagine anybody else in that role.
Agree on both counts. It'll be tough for another actor to ever fill Chris Reeve's shoes. Same with Bixby. He was great on the t.v. version of the Hulk. Although I will say, that Bana was great in Ang Lee's movie. Too bad the movie sucked.
Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
Agree on both counts. It'll be tough for another actor to ever fill Chris Reeve's shoes. Same with Bixby. He was great on the t.v. version of the Hulk. Although I will say, that Bana was great in Ang Lee's movie. Too bad the movie sucked.
Well I partly agree with you there.I agree with you that The Hulk sucked but I thought Bana was horrible as Doc Banner.
Fantastic Four was a financially successful enough to greenlight a sequel because it made back most of it's budget (of 150 million less than SR) in domestic box office and the rest in foreign gross. 😬
Assuming SR makes 200 million (which is still not a given) ratio of domestic gross : production budget
FF 3 : 2
SR 2 : 2.5