Ok...let´s dance:
Wolverine DEFLECTING bullets 1
wolverine DEFLECTING bullets 2
I´m sure wolverine´s reflexes are better than gambit
and the cyborg...
Gambit´s hand is too slow for Wolvie!!
As I said,Wolverine reflexes are better...Logan hits spiderman all the time.However gambit is more acrobatic.
Originally posted by X-LoganGood scan...the one with Logan deflecting the bullets!
Ok...let´s dance:
did you see this one?
Originally posted by wannabe
Good scan...the one with Logan deflecting the bullets!
The others just show that Wolvie is an excellent h2h fighter...big surprise.
I repeat: Superagility does not mean that you are the best fighter there is, otherwise Spidey, Nightcrawler, Beast and Gambit (yes, your reading right) would be virtually unbeatable.did you see this one?
As I said,I belive that gambit´s more acrobatic and maybe more agile(I´m not sure about this),but Logan moves his hands faster than gambit and surely has better reflexes.
In uncanny x-men 110 Wolvie cuts a dart/bullet shotted at him in the mid air.
In another ocasion Logan´s shows his reflexes are faster than Nightcrawler´s.(X-Men giant size 4)
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerDoesn't really matter since he's really only dodging the aim, guessing where the attack is going to go and either moving out of or his claws into the way before the shot is fired.
How fast are rocket powered darts?
I remember that issue. That's the one where cyclops hit a button clear across the danger room. ..
Originally posted by X-LoganDo you base your statement only on that one scan???
Yes,I did.i have this basketball issue.As I said,I belive that gambit´s more acrobatic and maybe more agile(I´m not sure about this),but Logan moves his hands faster than gambit and surely has better reflexes.
Originally posted by X-LoganI know this!
In uncanny x-men 110 Wolvie cuts a dart/bullet shotted at him in the mid air.
In another ocasion Logan´s shows his reflexes are faster than Nightcrawler´s.(X-Men giant size 4)
Originally posted by wolverine8888
top 20 list greatest to lowest. only x-men no one eles.
I say that night crawler would be first but I could be wrong.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
... wolverine is superhuman agility thou not as high as night crawlers or beast ...
Originally posted by wolverine8888These are YOUR quotes above w8888, now compare them to what you write in your quote below...
...wolverine is not as agile as beat or night crawler that is true, ...
Originally posted by wolverine8888...noticed something?
he keeps up with night crawler and spiderman all the time and it is stated that he has superhuman agility. also I listed 20 comics already of some of his feats
Btw...again...
Do you remember when The X-Men fought the Neo? Wolverine battled Domina after she defeated ALL the X-Men and he was described as being faster, more agile etc than even Nightcrawler and then defeated Domina with utter ease.
Even for a hardcore Wolverine fan - how believable is that???
Logan IS a cool character, but sometimes authors tend to let him do things his stated powers (healing, enhanced senses and enhanced physical attributes) should not let him be able to do. They do it to create a combat climax and to enhance his profile as an outstanding fighter, which he undoubtly is.
That kind of exaggeration is a phenomenon that is often used on characters to let them stand out of the mass and since Logan is very popular it is used on him pretty often.
It does not change the fact that Wolvie's stated powers, those he shows in day to day "business" do not include Superagility, whereas Nightcrawler, Beast and Gambit are stated as having this power (and i mean stated in the comics, not in any dubious handbooks), show it frequently and are famed for it...you know this.
Originally posted by wannabe
Do you base your statement only on that one scan???
When i would proceed this way i could certainly prove you that Kingpin is faster and stronger than Spidey or that Storm is more powerful in controling the weather than Thor etc...
I mean...Gambit is the f***ing best Thief in the X-Comics, but Logans hands are faster???
I know this!
Do you remember when The X-Men fought the Neo? Wolverine battled Domina after she defeated ALL the X-Men and he was described as being faster, more agile etc than even Nightcrawler and then defeated Domina with utter ease.
Even for a hardcore Wolverine fan - how believable is that???
Logan IS a cool character, but sometimes authors tend to let him do things his stated powers (healing, enhanced senses and enhanced physical attributes) should not let him be able to do. They do it to create a combat climax and to enhance his profile as an outstanding fighter, which he undoubtly is.
And you´re wrong when you tell that Logan have human reflexes or agility,it has been stated before that his reflexes an agility is above human in his comics lots of times.
Originally posted by X-LoganJust in case you forgot, i already stated something similar before.
An olimpic athlet of gymnastic is more acrobatic and probably more agile than an boxer fighter,but which one of them has the better reflexes and move his hands faster?
Originally posted by wannabe...but correct me if i'm wrong, we are talking about agility here, not fighting skills, don't we?
Good scan...the one with Logan deflecting the bullets!
The others just show that Wolvie is an excellent h2h fighter...big surprise.
I repeat: Superagility does not mean that you are the best fighter there is, otherwise Spidey, Nightcrawler, Beast and Gambit (yes, your reading right) would be virtually unbeatable.
And with the "fast hands"...i think it depends on what situation you're talking about.
Wolvie as the excellent fighter he is is certainly able to land some really fast punches (like a boxer), but that's not agility, it's fighting skill and quickness.
When it comes to sleight of hands, pickpocketing and acrobatics, which pretty much falls under the category of agility and thus fits into this topic, Gambit is certainly faster/better.
Originally posted by X-LoganDomina, a women with all the powers of the Neo, had no chance of fighting back, was virtually at her knees from Logan's punches, whereas punches and blasts from all other X-Men, including those of a classic Rogue who absorbed Colossus's powers, didn't even bother her during the whole Neo-run...how believable is that, even for a hardcore Wolverine fan?
Wolverine didn´t defeat Domina,he just punched her face a few times but did not defeat her.
Originally posted by X-LoganI never said he has human reflexes etc., i said...
And you´re wrong when you tell that Logan have human reflexes or agility,it has been stated before that his reflexes an agility is above human in his comics lots of times.
Originally posted by wannabe...so please don't put words into my mouth i didn't use, that 's really bad style in a debate!
...his stated powers (healing, enhanced senses and enhanced physical attributes)...
Originally posted by wolverine8888Maybe you are right. Unfortunately i only have the german issues and the translation is not always 100% correct.
actually ur wrong. they described wolverines speed and power to be greater then night crawlers. they said nothing about agility. also when they said speed they ment the speed of his punches. also they said with accuracy that would make night crawler proud.
Btw, you still owe me an explanation for the following...
Originally posted by wolverine8888
top 20 list greatest to lowest. only x-men no one eles.
I say that night crawler would be first but I could be wrong.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
... wolverine is superhuman agility thou not as high as night crawlers or beast ...
Originally posted by wolverine8888These are YOUR quotes above w8888, now compare them to what you write in your quote below...
...wolverine is not as agile as beat or night crawler that is true,...
Originally posted by wolverine8888...noticed something?
he keeps up with night crawler and spiderman all the time and it is stated that he has superhuman agility. also I listed 20 comics already of some of his feats
