Venom vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by capt it up
that as big as I can get it. well actauly I did spiderman can't through a ko punch at wolverine he is not nearly storng enough he need to keep at it for a while.
also venom agility and reflexes are not thta big of a gap, wolverine ahs proven he can move at speed that are not quite as fast but close enough. also wolverine fighting skill closes the gap and wolverine stamina will allow him to move for the speed for days.

no worries about the pic 😄
mabey not agility and reflexes, but pure body speed and stength are more than fighting ability can make up for, refer to my anology up above with the 4 year old master of martial arts and the full grown adult whose strenght and speed totally eclipse the abilities the 4 year old has, or are you saying that if you were 4-5 time stronger than Bruce lee and had superior speed reflexes and agility, he would win? If you think so, your not thinking logically, the only way bruce lee would win is if he has a biased writter on his side 😄

Originally posted by capt it up
wolverine claws have moved so fast they destroyed bulelts to nuthing in mid air please there no way he grabbing wolverine claws not a chance in hell.

Originally posted by capt it up
wolverine claws have moved so fast they destroyed bulelts to nuthing in mid air please there no way he grabbing wolverine claws not a chance in hell.

Any why not exactly? You do realize that Wolverine can't move his arms faster than a bullet right? I mean him deflecting/cutting bullets out of the air would be a fairly impressive reaction feat but Daredevil has also deflected bullets as well. The bullets are traveling at super sonic speed and Wolverine can't possibly move his arms faster than that.

If you use a little objective logic then you will see that if the suit has the ability to catch bullets then it would have the ability to grab Wolverine's much slower arms.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Any why not exactly? You do realize that Wolverine can't move his arms faster than a bullet right? I mean him deflecting/cutting bullets out of the air would be a fairly impressive reaction feat but Daredevil has also deflected bullets as well. The bullets are traveling at super sonic speed and Wolverine can't possibly move his arms faster than that.

If you use a little objective logic then you will see that if the suit has the ability to catch bullets then it would have the ability to grab Wolverine's much slower arms.

Originally posted by Whiteclipse
no worries about the pic 😄
mabey not agility and reflexes, but pure body speed and stength are more than fighting ability can make up for, refer to my anology up above with the 4 year old master of martial arts and the full grown adult whose strenght and speed totally eclipse the abilities the 4 year old has, or are you saying that if you were 4-5 time stronger than Bruce lee and had superior speed reflexes and agility, he would win? If you think so, your not thinking logically, the only way bruce lee would win is if he has a biased writter on his side 😄

Originally posted by spideycarnage
thats PIS, because his relexes arent that quiick to even see the bullets

Juggernaut is strong enough to hurl the entire empire state building and yet he wasn't strong enough to hurt Venom. How does Wolverine ever even hope to hurt him?

Originally posted by batdude123
Juggernaut is strong enough to hurl the entire empire state building and yet he wasn't strong enough to hurt Venom. How does Wolverine ever even hope to hurt him?

Originally posted by capt it up
so my feta is PIS but urs is allowed?

I'm not saying that characters deflecting bullets is PIS. In all honesty it really should be, except for a few really quick characters, but too many street level characters do it so you just have to accept that they can.

Here is how I see the fight going (again if both are fighting their best):

The two start off at opposite ends of the battle filed. Wolverine runs towards Venom. Venom stands still. Wolverine gets in close and goes to slash open Venom's chest. Before the strike lands a tendril from Venom's symbiot flys out and wraps itself around him arm. Wolverine attempts to either strike or free himself with his other arm. Venom then sends out a second tendril that wraps around Wolverine's other arm.

Now Venom should be able to do this as the symbiot's tendrils have proven to be fast enough to catch super sonic bullets. Therefore they should be able to intercept Wolverine's sub sonic arms. Once Wolverine is restrained Venom can then send his symbiot into Wolverine's body to destroy is brains, lungs, ect.

If you just look at their power set, then Venom should be able to win fairly easily. All Wolverine has in terms of offensive firepower is his claws while Venom has the much more versatile symbiot.

Originally posted by TheKahn
I'm not saying that characters deflecting bullets is PIS. In all honesty it really should be, except for a few really quick characters, but too many street level characters do it so you just have to accept that they can.

Here is how I see the fight going (again if both are fighting their best):

The two start off at opposite ends of the battle filed. Wolverine runs towards Venom. Venom stands still. Wolverine gets in close and goes to slash open Venom's chest. Before the strike lands a tendril from Venom's symbiot flys out and wraps itself around him arm. Wolverine attempts to either strike or free himself with his other arm. Venom then sends out a second tendril that wraps around Wolverine's other arm.

Now Venom should be able to do this as the symbiot's tendrils have proven to be fast enough to catch super sonic bullets. Therefore they should be able to intercept Wolverine's sub sonic arms. Once Wolverine is restrained Venom can then send his symbiot into Wolverine's body to destroy is brains, lungs, ect.

If you just look at their power set, then Venom should be able to win fairly easily. All Wolverine has in terms of offensive firepower is his claws while Venom has the much more versatile symbiot.

Originally posted by capt it up
but venom body speed is not much faster then wolverines. also so venom ahs strength advatage wow. wolverine has fighting skill, stamina, and durability advantage,

so your saying in a race from one end of manhattan to the other wolverine would keep up with venom? no chance in hell, and id say venom has pretty close to the same durability wolverine has, wolverines 2 arms vs venoms 2 arms and multiple tentacles(which have better speed and reaction time) kinda nulify wolverines fighting ability

Originally posted by Whiteclipse
so your saying in a race from one end of manhattan to the other wolverine would keep up with venom? no chance in hell, and id say venom has pretty close to the same durability wolverine has, wolverines 2 arms vs venoms 2 arms and multiple tentacles(which have better speed and reaction time) kinda nulify wolverines fighting ability

Originally posted by capt it up
please list wolverines
strength
agility
reflex
I just wanan know what u think they are. eample are they normal human, peakhuman ect.

strength - ive always thought like 800-2000 pounds depending on the writter
agility- peakhuman
reflex - peak human

his stamina is crazy cuz of his healing ability, its not like hes a mutant with agility, reflex, and speed powers, since hes so old, his body has pushed itself to the limits with training, so asides from his healing factor, stamina(due to his healing factor) and bone structure he aint got much (oh and the fighting ability which you bring up so much)

Originally posted by TheKahn
I'm not saying that characters deflecting bullets is PIS. In all honesty it really should be, except for a few really quick characters, but too many street level characters do it so you just have to accept that they can.

Here is how I see the fight going (again if both are fighting their best):

The two start off at opposite ends of the battle filed. Wolverine runs towards Venom. Venom stands still. Wolverine gets in close and goes to slash open Venom's chest. Before the strike lands a tendril from Venom's symbiot flys out and wraps itself around him arm. Wolverine attempts to either strike or free himself with his other arm. Venom then sends out a second tendril that wraps around Wolverine's other arm.

Now Venom should be able to do this as the symbiot's tendrils have proven to be fast enough to catch super sonic bullets. Therefore they should be able to intercept Wolverine's sub sonic arms. Once Wolverine is restrained Venom can then send his symbiot into Wolverine's body to destroy is brains, lungs, ect.

If you just look at their power set, then Venom should be able to win fairly easily. All Wolverine has in terms of offensive firepower is his claws while Venom has the much more versatile symbiot.

That is completly possible excpet Eddie never fights to the best of his abilities. He almost always throws down in melee with his enemy and 9/10 he will do the same agaisnt Wolverien which is why he loses.

Originally posted by capt it up
running speed is piontless in a fight

i guess that means someone like the flash or quicksilver is doomed to defeat after defeat huh?

Venom wasn't hurt by Juggernaut even after Juggs smashed his head into the ground with a Telephone Pole.

Venom has taken white phosphorus grenades and bullets and not been hurt not even slowed.

Wolverine doesn't have more stamina or Durabilty over Venom nor strength nor speed. Wolverine is so much slower then spiderman that in the graveyard fight you love to show Spiderman had to let himself get hit by wolverine!

Originally posted by Whiteclipse
strength - ive always thought like 800-2000 pounds depending on the writter
agility- peakhuman
reflex - peak human

his stamina is crazy cuz of his healing ability, its not like hes a mutant with agility, reflex, and speed powers, since hes so old, his body has pushed itself to the limits with training, so asides from his healing factor, stamina(due to his healing factor) and bone structure he aint got much (oh and the fighting ability which you bring up so much)

Originally posted by soleran30
Venom wasn't hurt by Juggernaut even after Juggs smashed his head into the ground with a Telephone Pole.

Venom has taken white phosphorus grenades and bullets and not been hurt not even slowed.

Wolverine doesn't have more stamina or Durabilty over Venom nor strength nor speed. Wolverine is so much slower then spiderman that in the graveyard fight you love to show Spiderman had to let himself get hit by wolverine!

Originally posted by Whiteclipse
i guess that means someone like the flash or quicksilver is doomed to defeat after defeat huh?

Originally posted by capt it up
please list wolverines
strength
agility
reflex
I just wanan know what u think they are. eample are they normal human, peakhuman ect.

Personally, from his his feats (not from handbooks) I would say:

Strength - between peak human to around 5 tons
Agility - peak human to enhanced human
Reflexes - enhansed human to super human

*these tend to vary with the particular writer.