If wolverine is so fast how did Spiderman throw him out of a building? How did he web him up? Yeah thats right because he is faster then wolverine.
Wolveirne dodging lasers is PIS he isn't anywhere fast enough, dodging bullets he isn't fast enough its PIS...............
Wolveirne let SM hit him when he was on the ground...............and really its moot cuz SM is amped and not the same...................Venom is amped and Wolverine is beaten by Venom.
Originally posted by TheKahn
Personally, from his his feats (not from handbooks) I would say:Strength - between peak human to around 5 tons
Agility - peak human to enhanced human
Reflexes - enhansed human to super human*these tend to vary with the particular writer.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That is completly possible excpet Eddie never fights to the best of his abilities. He almost always throws down in melee with his enemy and 9/10 he will do the same agaisnt Wolverien which is why he loses.
From the forum rules:
"Bloodlust
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels."
Even though Eddie doesn't use that tactic a great deal in comics, since he is capable of it he can use it in these fights.
Originally posted by soleran30
If wolverine is so fast how did Spiderman throw him out of a building? How did he web him up? Yeah thats right because he is faster then wolverine.Wolveirne dodging lasers is PIS he isn't anywhere fast enough, dodging bullets he isn't fast enough its PIS...............
Wolveirne let SM hit him when he was on the ground...............and really its moot cuz SM is amped and not the same...................Venom is amped and Wolverine is beaten by Venom.
Originally posted by capt it up
see here thr poblem.
wolverine is superhuman in agility and reflex
Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003
Official Wolverine hand book of the marvel universe
Marvel comics presents Wolverine volume 2.
(THE SHOW DOWN OF THE CENTURY DC VERSUS MARVEL COMICS) also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
“The Marvel Universe Master Edition Issue 4 clearly states that Wolverine's strength is enhanced human.”
he is beyond peakhuman just to let u know
but still pales in comparison to someone like venom, on all fronts
Originally posted by TheKahn
From the forum rules:"Bloodlust
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels."Even though Eddie doesn't use that tactic a great deal in comics, since he is capable of it he can use it in these fights.
PIS is turned off for the fights not CIS. Eddies fighting style is a result of CIS so it how he will fight.
Originally posted by capt it up
wolverien si stated by mavrel to be superhiman agility and reflex. yet wolverien dodging bulelts and lazer is PIS/ ur debating skill are the best arnt they lol. also both instance u are talken about with spierman are simple. first wolverien was tlaken to spiderman and spiderman started webing a talkign wolverine.
second spiderman through a wolverine who was laughing hwo does that even come close to being a fight lol.
also how about the time spiderman gave wolverine lip when he said he was gunna ahndle thing his way since spidermans way did not work and spiderman said no u wont and wolverine slammed him to a tree put his claws to spidermans throte and told spiderman to shut up or he would kill him and spiderman had no way of getting out of that. yet u dotn see me trying to use that as a fight.
Let me spell this out for you slowly ok ...........................a bullet breaks the sound barrier ..........................spiderman wasn't anywhere near moving at the sound barrier to hit wolverine.
So what I need for you to understand is that Wolverine dodgeing lasers and bulletts are PIS because he gets hit all the time. If he was that fast he wouldn't ever get touched in combat or anywhere.
Venom could just use his tendrils to hold Wolverines arms very easily and run him over to a lake and drown him.......................the end.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
PIS is turned off for the fights not CIS. Eddies fighting style is a result of CIS so it how he will fight.
That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It isn't CIS, it's just writers not using Venom's abilites to their fullest extent just as they do with the Flash.
Originally posted by capt it up
both of them have superhuman reflex and agility. with out that they would be most use less becuase they would be be able to react at the speed they were moving at.
so your saying they just use their reflexes and agility in battle? Besides Venom is to versatile to lose this fight, especially if their fighting in a area with a lot of buildings
Originally posted by soleran30
Let me spell this out for you slowly ok ...........................a bullet breaks the sound barrier ..........................spiderman wasn't anywhere near moving at the sound barrier to hit wolverine.So what I need for you to understand is that Wolverine dodgeing lasers and bulletts are PIS because he gets hit all the time. If he was that fast he wouldn't ever get touched in combat or anywhere.
Venom could just use his tendrils to hold Wolverines arms very easily and run him over to a lake and drown him.......................the end.
Originally posted by Whiteclipse
so your saying they just use their reflexes and agility in battle? Besides Venom is to versatile to lose this fight, especially if their fighting in a area with a lot of buildings
No what he is saying he will abuse you with bad grammar and spellings. Then after you learn this new language of English he will bombard you with pictures and subjective lecture that will further diminish your ability to comprehend the subject at hand.
Wolverine is at a loss 9/10 when characters fight to their maximum ability.
Wolverine's nominal enhanced strength is moot
Wolverine's nominal enhanced speed is moot
Wolverine's fighting skills good! WAHOO one
However Venom is so FAR above Wolverine in abilities and what he brings to a fight the loses. Venom has webbed up the Hulk. THE HULK.............yeah wow Taken Juggs best hits............Beat Spiderman to levels wolverine could only dream of............
Originally posted by TheKahn
That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.It isn't CIS, it's just writers not using Venom's abilites to their fullest extent just as they do with the Flash.
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality
Eddie isn't sudden'y going tp fight like a brillent tactition. Why? Because that isn't Eddie. He will fight like he always fights because he is to brash. Its CIS pure and simple. It's part of Venom's character.
Scorpion could dominate alot of people in a fight but Mac is a moron so its not how things work out in the end.
Originally posted by Whiteclipse
so your saying they just use their reflexes and agility in battle? Besides Venom is to versatile to lose this fight, especially if their fighting in a area with a lot of buildings
Originally posted by capt it up
veing more vesatile means nuthing. omga read is more veratile and has a death factor and is a much more dangerous opponet the venom and he does not even have a winning rec vs wolverine
being versatile is a huge factor, are you kidding me? if it wasn't that would make Slade a pretty useless character wouldn't it?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personalityEddie isn't sudden'y going tp fight like a brillent tactition. Why? Because that isn't Eddie. He will fight like he always fights because he is to brash. Its CIS pure and simple. It's part of Venom's character.
Scorpion could dominate alot of people in a fight but Mac is a moron so its not how things work out in the end.
The rules say he can and will use any ability in his arsenal but you say that because of his character he won't. I'll go with the rules. 😄
Originally posted by Whiteclipse
which is bad writting (like spiderman vs firelord)
You just have Spider-man up on some pedistal. Every street level hero (granted most of them have superhuman speed and agility) have shown to be able to keep up with Spider-man. Pete is faster then Wovlerine, Cap and Dare Devil but no where near fast enough to make a difference. They aren't just a bunch of random chumps off the street.
Originally posted by TheKahn
The rules say he can and will use any ability in his arsenal but you say that because of his character he won't. I'll go with the rules. 😄
The rules say that Flash will use his speed to the best of his ability. The reason he doesn't is because of PIS and has nothing to do with his character. No one wants a comic that lasts one panel. The reason Venom doesn't use his abilities to there fullist is because its part of his character and falls into the personality part. So... yeah