Bad children. Who's responsible?

I don't know, Soleran. Perhaps, it's just been my experiences, or maybe I don't know any better. But, you did refer to changing people as children. Are you not an adult when you're 30?

Checkmate? 😛

Originally posted by BobbyD
I don't know, Soleran. Perhaps, it's just been my experiences, or maybe I don't know any better. But, you did refer to changing people as children. Are you not an adult when you're 30?

Checkmate? 😛

Were we playing chess here? 😛

No, I stink at chess. Nor do I have the patience. 😒

We can talk about kids being responsible and parents being responsible, but really, the fault lies equally on the sholders of both. There are times that every effort made by the parent is refused or rejected by the childs descisions and actions. And there are times that despite bad parenting and poor situations, the child beats the odds and comes out on top. But, when you ask the question, "Bad children, who's responsible?" you have to define the question a bit better. To what kind of child are you reffering? Gang members in their teens? Or, maybe the fat little bastard that's screaming on the floor in the next aisle over? Are you talking about kids that bite other kids in school, or an 18 year old that shoots his girlfriends parents?

Originally posted by BobbyD
Society, Deano. How so?

if the system didnt cause people to be stressed out zombies, we woudnt be in the mess we are today.

...fat little bastard that's screaming on the floor in the next aisle over

That was great capt fantastic. 😂 Funny, but wrong.

Regarding your examples, does it really matter what child it is, or where their path takes them? I refuse to blame the child. Learning starts right from day 1 out of the womb into the catcher's glove being held by his father. The parents are most importantly, the individuals responsible for nurturing and raising their child. If it doesn't start there, that's when you have problems down the road.

True...It's how the child is responded to....Many parents aren't skilled in in these kinds of communications.....

Of course there will be children with chemical disorders and such, there are always exception like that.

Parents are responsible for how they raise their child, but once the child reaches a certain age it clearly has the mind to make choice as to whether "Be bad, or be responsible." That choice can go either way regardless of great parents.

-AC

Originally posted by Deano
if the system didnt cause people to be stressed out zombies, we woudnt be in the mess we are today.

people cause people to be stressed out zombies.......no one can make you feel anything you don't want!

"No one can make you feel anything you don't want to feel"....CORRECT!

Funny, how when I wanted to veer down the wrong path, or steer in the wrong direction, my dad gave me a dose of good old fashioned European discipline. Today, what he did, would be considered child abuse. You know what though....straightened my ass out.

Yeah, my dad the same way..... 😠 😕

Run debbiejo run........run....run away.....

Parents. Period.

if the parents cant control the child then the children is born to be a screw up. disipline is essential

Originally posted by debbiejo
Yeah, my dad the same way..... 😠 😕

Run debbiejo run........run....run away.....

Hey, a while back you said your dad did this: ranting
You never said he did this: 😠

Blaming the parents continually is the reason why a lot of these problems aren't solved.

Blaming the people who aren't always responsible, all the time, solves nothing.

-AC

Originally posted by botankus
Hey, a while back you said your dad did this: ranting
You never said he did this: 😠

😂 Yeah...Ones on a good day, the other...well.....

So I take it that most of us are in unison then? It's PRIMARILY, not solely, the responsibility of the parents? Yes, we can include strong outside influences like siblings, teachers, priests/reverends/deacons, etc. etc. as secondary influences, but mostly it's the "P's"?

What age? My answer for people under around 10-11 is that it's the parents fault. After that, it's completely the childs.

I've seen way too many young kids get off without so much as a smack on the hand for doing bad deeds, purely because of the rationale "He's only young."

The sooner people realise that once you reach a certain age, you DO know when you're doing something wrong, the quicker we can start sorting out problems. Of course, bad parenting will increase the chances of this happening but it's not always the parents fault.

-AC