Bad children. Who's responsible?

agreed, parents arn't the only ones to blame. the kids do make a choise for themselves at an age, irrelevant of the parents. my boss knows a guy, nicest guy in the world, lots of money, works for a large coroporation, has two daughters. he gave them everything in the world, treated them with respect, did everything he could, they both ended up in jail, both heroin junkies, one of them injected another chick with battery acid, them smashed her head in on a sink, then set her bodie on fire. THEN when they arrested her, she was in jail half hour, she'd stabbed another prisoner with scissors. its not JUST the parents fault, people do things off their own backs in the end, blaming the parents can only go so far

its all the medias fault. a lot of bad things can be traced to the media.

To Mentalguy, Jimmy Urine of Mindless Self Indulgence said something about the media in one of their album sleeves that you might wanna take heed of:

"A warning for those of you lazy, self-absorbed and/or just plain inattentive parents.

All the censorship in the world won't make up for bad parenting. If your child is more influenced by our music than by Mommy and Daddy, both you and your offspring have much bigger problems than our lyrics. So before you go hauling us or any other artist into court, look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if you did the best job you could. Because if you're considering taking us to court, you didn't."

Stop blaming the media, it solves nothing.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
To Mentalguy, Jimmy Urine of Mindless Self Indulgence said something about the media in one of their album sleeves that you might wanna take heed of:

"A warning for those of you lazy, self-absorbed and/or just plain inattentive parents.

All the censorship in the world won't make up for bad parenting. If your child is more influenced by our music than by Mommy and Daddy, both you and your offspring have much bigger problems than our lyrics. So before you go hauling us or any other artist into court, look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if you did the best job you could. Because if you're considering taking us to court, you didn't."

Stop blaming the media, it solves nothing.

-AC

its not that. media is where most people get their ideas from. that and peer presure. im a teen i know this

No, you're wrong, quite simply. Being a teen doesn't mean you know everything about teens. I'm a teen also.

The media isn't to blame.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, you're wrong, quite simply. Being a teen doesn't mean you know everything about teens. I'm a teen also.

The media isn't to blame.

-AC

come on. i enjoy car surfing. i never even heard of it till it was on the news. i dont plan on stopping either

Originally posted by mentalguy
come on. i enjoy car surfing. i never even heard of it till it was on the news. i dont plan on stopping either

Then when/if you die from it, it will be your fault, not the media.

The media never said "HEY GO TRY THIS!" They reported it so people knew what dumbshits were doing and to watch out for it.

The kids and the parents share the blame once you get into the teenage years. Of course there will be negative influences like the media and other teens, but at the end of the day a teenager is old enough to accept responsibility for their own actions. If we keep letting people use music and movies as a cop out of why teenagers act up, then they're less likely to stop seeing that they have the false sense that they are not to blame. Parents should instill a sense of individual responsibility by the time the kid is old enough to get in really serious trouble.

Originally posted by BackFire
Then when/if you die from it, it will be your fault, not the media.

The media never said "HEY GO TRY THIS!" They reported it so people knew what dumbshits were doing and to watch out for it.

i guese its not their fault directly, but yes teens get their ideas from the media

Originally posted by mentalguy
come on. i enjoy car surfing. i never even heard of it till it was on the news. i dont plan on stopping either

Yeah, that's not the media's fault. The fact that you acknowledge it as something bad yet refuse to stop just shows that it's your own choice just as the consequences will be yours. When you hit the pavement it isn't going to break any of the media's bones.

Originally posted by mentalguy
i guese its not their fault directly, but yes teens get their ideas from the media

You're an idiot for car surfing. The media are free from blame.

-AC

Originally posted by BobbyD
People don't really change either, or at least not any more after 30, Soleran.

Jacopex, if your mother hadn't done all that she has done thus far, which is I'm gathering a lot from your circumstances, then she would have been the one to blame. However, the fact is she has done a lot for you and your siblings, despite the poor surroundings and negative influences.

Kudos to you for believing that you have a future. Stick with your goals, my man.

Wut do you mean. My mom supports me.

She a "ho"?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You're an idiot for car surfing. The media are free from blame.

-AC

yep, people love blaming the media because they're to gutless to accept the concequences for their actions

lol you guys think i was serious about that. i do plenty of other stupid shit i aint got time 😆

Blame the parents

Originally posted by debbiejo
Many times it's because the child is not being listened to. They feel they are not heard and then finally rebel...Most of children's lives they are told "How to feel, to think, or what not to"...Lots of shouldn'ts.....If more adults would ask the child the "Why's" and then explore that, instead of the "Don't"...There would be less rebellion in my opinion, and more free thinkers that would contribute to society...

that 'feeling' may or may not be accurate however. perhaps they ARE being listened to and just don't like the replies they receive.

in any event, the parents are (imho) certainly the primary blame-getters for 'bad-children' (though that entails a BROAD spectrum of behaviors). as a teacher it is remarkable to see how similar many children are to their parents -- for good OR ill. if the parents are NOT primarily responsible, who/what is? tv? 'society'? schools? friends? their environment? genetics?? these factors will all play a role (some larger, some smaller) in developing the child, but ultimately it falls to the parent/guardian i think. anything else is simply a cop out.

deb's suggestion of more 'why' questions is something i wholeheartedly support. if you want to confuse a child ask them why. critical/analytical thinking is difficult for most ADULTS! getting kids to start thinking this way early on IS a fantasic idea. 'why' questions, or 'how' or any question that gets a child to explore his thinking are great tools (in AND out of the classroom) and help make great thinkers.

Originally posted by leonidas
that 'feeling' may or may not be accurate however. perhaps they ARE being listened to and just don't like the replies they receive.

in any event, the parents are (imho) certainly the primary blame-getters for 'bad-children' (though that entails a BROAD spectrum of behaviors). as a teacher it is remarkable to see how similar many children are to their parents -- for good OR ill. if the parents are NOT primarily responsible, who/what is? tv? 'society'? schools? friends? their environment? genetics?? these factors will all play a role (some larger, some smaller) in developing the child, but ultimately it falls to the parent/guardian i think. anything else is simply a cop out.

deb's suggestion of more 'why' questions is something i wholeheartedly support. if you want to confuse a child ask them why. critical/analytical thinking is difficult for most ADULTS! getting kids to start thinking this way early on IS a fantasic idea. 'why' questions, or 'how' or any question that gets a child to explore his thinking are great tools (in AND out of the classroom) and help make great thinkers.

I think parents and child are both to be blame.. The responsibilty would more on the parents but child is also responsible for the choices he/she made. Add to that the culture and the generation we had now.. Child nowadays are too rebellious and obscure. They believe what they want to believe and do what they want to do regardless of its righteousness..

No no no. Let's stop finding some way to blame everyone but the children.

Once you get to a certain age, you know what you are or are not doing wrong. Parents or adults in general seem to have this blinkered view that you don't get a mind of your own till you're 16 or something.

I know a 10 year old who chose to start smoking. No amount of media blaming or parental blaming can make up for the fact that he knew it was wrong and decided against it. If anything, peer pressure is something that can lead to it.

-AC