Three way fight Mindless Hulk vs Superman vs Thor no Hammer with a twist.

Originally posted by h1a8
How do you know that base Hulk (100tons) can withstand a couple of blows from someone who is 8x stronger than someone who can crack a celestial's dome?

You are basically arguing that no one can actually ko Hulk even though it
has happened countless times. Is this true? Please answer!

2. Hulk has taken everything Thor could dish out, many times. the only thing left is the GodBlast, which isn't available here.

3. Onslaught at his strongest was said to rival The Celestials, had physically pummeled all the heroes on Marvel Earth, including humiliating Juggernaut a few times (this was a weaker Onslaught mind you). yet at his most powerful, Onslaught still could not KO mindless Hulk, none of the other characters here is even a mote in comparison to Onslaught's force. and Hulk went toe-to-toe with him.

4. Hulk has survived blackholes that were so strong even The Surfer was KOed by them. again, Surfer > Thor/Superman, Surfer even fights other Heralds inside regular blackholes, so that is an impressive feat.

5. Hulk's durability, healing, regeneration, speed ALL grow alongside his strength, as shown on-panel. neither of these guys has anything that can put him down fast enough to prevent the inevitable. Hulk wins.

addendum
6. Zom/Strange, Dr. Strange empowered with a fraction of Zom (who himself is a challenge that the LT had to deal with) went down to 3 Hulk punches. Zom/Strange ripped through Hulk's body, clearly destroying the upper torso (thus disconnecting the brain from the rest of the body. the impact was NOTHING to Hulk, he grew it back in a panel and without slowing down or weakening. this happened twice during the battle. Zom/Strange is hideously more powerful than both these guys put together.

7. Sentry charged into Hulk with +everything+ he had and couldn't KO Hulk, it's just not possible for these guys either.

I think hulk takes it in the end because he won't get tired but instead angrier and stronger. I will give it to superman that he will dodge much of hulks attacks even in this confined space. I guess superman will eventually get tired because he dependent on a outside source of energy and Hulk's energy comes from within. Sorry Thor isn't gonna be a factor here without his hammer. SO yeah Hulk ftw.

Originally posted by h1a8
How do you know that base Hulk (100tons) can withstand a couple of blows from someone who is 8x stronger than someone who can crack a celestial's dome?

You are basically arguing that no one can actually ko Hulk even though it
has happened countless times. Is this true? Please answer!

First of all thor did not crack that celestials dome with pure strength so that comparison is indeed ridiculous.. Now this is mindless hulk. If he is a t the same lvl at which he fought onslaught then the other two are done for. A weaker version of onslaught was able to physically stop the juggernaut and send him flying miles away. Thor also did this wit d godblast but evn he did not snd him miles away. When the hulk fought onslaught he was more powerful and he still was unable to win a physical fight against the hulk. The hulk actually cracked his armour at a point where a good number of earths superheroes had failed to do so ( including thor).

The mindless hulk dat fought was able to withstand punches from onslaught without much trouble( punches dat sent jugs across d continent). A few punches from supes wont ko him but a few punches like d ones he gave onslaught have a good chance of killing either superman or thor

Mindless Hulk, Thor gets stomped.

Superman still wins.

You can't hit what you can't see!

Thor needs his hammer to compete here - without it he has no hope.

Superman Vs Hulk has been debated often - the question is will Hulk's strength/durability/stamina increase quickly enough to challenge somone like Superman whose base level strength is FAR beyond Hulks (this also does not take into account his other abilities - heat vision, freeze breath etc).

Hulk instantly becomes as strong as he needs to be, it's not a case of slowly working himself up.

a 100Billion ton+ mountain-range dwarfing the Andes was dropped on him, in his Professor Hulk (weak) incarnation and he managed to brace it. and his durability, healing, regeneration, speed all increase in relation to his strength.

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk instantly becomes as strong as he needs to be, it's not a case of slowly working himself up.

a 100[b]Billion ton+ mountain-range dwarfing the Andes was dropped on him, in his Professor Hulk (weak) incarnation and he managed to brace it. and his durability, healing, regeneration, speed all increase in relation to his strength. [/B]

That's all well and good and everything.....

But that has nothing to do with how he's going to hit Superman. Which he won't.
If the OP wanted Hulk to win this fight, instead of taking away Superman's flight, he should of taken away his speed.

Even in an enclosed space this size, unless Hulk and Superman are in a box just big enough for them both to stand inside, Hulk won't even see Superman.
Superman only needs a small space for maneuverability, and he's got plenty of that in this location.

Superman wins. Too fast.

Well he starts off as mindless hulk thats pretty up there right? I means his Mindless hulk "base" power should be enough that superman won't have any real advantage. I doubt the heat will do much do to the regen factor and I don't think ice is gonna hold the Hulk.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Well he starts off as mindless hulk thats pretty up there right? I means his Mindless hulk "base" power should be enough that superman won't have any real advantage. I doubt the heat will do much do to the regen factor and I don't think ice is gonna hold the Hulk.

Maybe, maybe not. But HV and AB aren't needed in this fight.

Strength: Superman >/= Hulk (debatable)

Speed: Superman >>>>>> Hulk

By logical reasoning, Hulk won't even see Superman.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Well he starts off as mindless hulk thats pretty up there right? I means his Mindless hulk "base" power should be enough that superman won't have any real advantage. I doubt the heat will do much do to the regen factor and I don't think ice is gonna hold the Hulk.

Mindless Hulk does not start anywhere near Superman at his base. Im not questioning Hulk's ability to EVENTUALLY reach Supermans level - will he do it in enough time to counteract the level of strength and speed Superman has before Superman takes him out? Also mindless Hulk has very limited intelligence - now I believe this could be both an advantage and a disadvantage as:

1. Disadvantage is he will be little more than an animal in his fighting technique and skill - and may not display the usual cunningness the Hulk shows.

2. Advantage may well be he is able to attain enraged emotions faster than a (mentally) held back Hulk.

I dont doubt Hulk's ability to win this - but he is not the clear winner.

Originally posted by janus77
1. in most instances Hulk's "base strength" means squat because it instantly increases +exponentially+ when in battle.

2. Hulk has taken everything Thor could dish out, many times. the only thing left is the GodBlast, which isn't available here.

3. Onslaught at his strongest was said to rival The Celestials, had physically pummeled all the heroes on Marvel Earth, including humiliating Juggernaut a few times (this was a weaker Onslaught mind you). yet at his most powerful, Onslaught still could not KO mindless Hulk, none of the other characters here is even a mote in comparison to Onslaught's force. and Hulk went toe-to-toe with him.

4. Hulk has survived blackholes that were so strong even The Surfer was KOed by them. again, Surfer > Thor/Superman, Surfer even fights other Heralds inside regular blackholes, so that is an impressive feat.

5. Hulk's durability, healing, regeneration, speed ALL grow alongside his strength, as shown on-panel. neither of these guys has anything that can put him down fast enough to prevent the inevitable. Hulk wins.

addendum
6. Zom/Strange, Dr. Strange empowered with a fraction of Zom (who himself is a challenge that the LT had to deal with) went down to 3 Hulk punches. Zom/Strange ripped through Hulk's body, clearly destroying the upper torso (thus disconnecting the brain from the rest of the body. the impact was NOTHING to Hulk, he grew it back in a panel and without slowing down or weakening. this happened twice during the battle. Zom/Strange is hideously more powerful than both these guys put together.

7. Sentry charged into Hulk with +everything+ he had and couldn't KO Hulk, it's just not possible for these guys either.

h1a8 do you always display such a lack of comprehension and a penchant for adolescent twisting of people's responses?

😐.

Originally posted by janus77
h1a8 do you always display such a lack of comprehension and a penchant for adolescent twisting of people's responses?

😐.

Odinforce Thor (current) shits stomps both. =)

Originally posted by Grammaton
Mindless Hulk does not start anywhere near Superman at his base. Im not questioning Hulk's ability to EVENTUALLY reach Supermans level - will he do it in enough time to counteract the level of strength and speed Superman has before Superman takes him out? Also mindless Hulk has very limited intelligence - now I believe this could be both an advantage and a disadvantage as:

1. Disadvantage is he will be little more than an animal in his fighting technique and skill - and may not display the usual cunningness the Hulk shows.

2. Advantage may well be he is able to attain enraged emotions faster than a (mentally) held back Hulk.

I dont doubt Hulk's ability to win this - but he is not the clear winner.

Mindless hulk is a hulk that starts off completely and insanely angry, hence there is no question dat he so called base strength is at least on par with superman. Heck if he starts out at the lvl dat he did against onslaught then his base strength is above superman and will become faaar above supermans in a few seconds. The whole thing of the hulk EVENTUALLY reaching supermans lvl is just stupid. The mindless hulk was able to IMMEDIATELY go toe to toe wit onslaught
( who had enough strength to stop the juggernaut and send im across a continent, and all that when he was less powerful dan he was against hulk ) and very shortly after accomplish what the combined force of earths heroes could not do at that point which break a full powered onslaughts armour. onslaughts armour .

However i do agree dat him being mindless can be a disadvantage because of the lack of intelligence but the advantage of unbelievable strength outweighs the disadvantage .

Superman has some pretty good chances, even with the constraints, but he'd eventually lose.

The finals probably look something like;

Hulk 6/10
Superman 4/10
Thor - XXXXXXXX

Originally posted by h1a8

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Hulk's strength level was high here. My argument is that it won't get a chance to get high period, as he will be
Koed shortly.

I like to see Hulk surviving a blackhole. Please show me. We are talking about durability. So how is Surfer>Thor/Superman?

In that case no one can put Hulk down. 🙄
Even though he has been put down far too many times by lesser forces.

WW Hulk is not mindless Hulk, as his base strength was off the charts. Also the Zom/Strange incident was PIS and thus it is invalid even if we are talking about WW
Hulk here.

Sentry is weak. He had problems with a helicarrier. Iron Man busted his nose. A playful calm Hulk hurt him with a hug, etc. Plus again that was [B]WW Hulk at his highest. He already fought others before he faced Sentry to become more angry and stronger. Thus he was stronger facing Sentry than he was facing Blackbolt, Ironman, etc. [/B]

To start with id like to ask you how long it took the mindless hulk that fought inslaught to get to dat strength lvl? It did not take time at all as he was dat strong immediately. He did not amp for long periods before he went to fight onslaught, IMMEDIATELY he went mindless he was on dat lvl therefore ur argument of it taking d hulk time to get to dat lvl is ridiculous.

For your next coment about hulk survivivng a black hole, it did happen in planet hulk and he and the surfer both went through the same black hole but he came out in better shape( not to say i think he has better durability dan ss but dat incident shows that it is around dat lvl) ). And yeah the surfer is certainly more durable dan thor/superman. Taking a beating from tenebrous and aegis two galctus lvl beings (who tried to kill im) by the big gs own admission and not only surviving but still having enough strength to summon and channel the crunch enrgies, a feat that galactus himself said would be tough on its own evn 4 im. .

And yeah the hulks strength, duranility, h factor and evrything else increase proportionally with his anger. Hence the reason dat more powerful versions of hulk are more durable and heal faster e.g WWH heals faster and is more durable than normal savage and savage and the same goes for savage in relation to prof or grey hulk. To further show it a calm hulk had his bones broken by the void while WWH exhausted the sentrys entire enrgy reserve s and still did not go down

Well WWH and may not be mindless hulk but the mindless hulks base strength is also insanely high.

Lastly for the sentrey incident, sentry is not weak the hellicarrier thing has been discussed numerous times and it has been reasoned dat because of d sentrys lack of the ability to affect all points of an object by touching only one part( possesed by supes and hulk) he could only slow the hellicarrier and not stop it without risking its destruction. Being able to stalemate genis vell, and punk terrax hardly qualifies u as weak.

wow janus sucks

Originally posted by ultimatethor
To start with id like to ask you how long it took the mindless hulk that fought inslaught to get to dat strength lvl? It did not take time at all as he was dat strong immediately. He did not amp for long periods before he went to fight onslaught, IMMEDIATELY he went mindless he was on dat lvl therefore ur argument of it taking d hulk time to get to dat lvl is ridiculous.

For your next coment about hulk survivivng a black hole, it did happen in planet hulk and he and the surfer both went through the same black hole but he came out in better shape( not to say i think he has better durability dan ss but dat incident shows that it is around dat lvl) ). And yeah the surfer is certainly more durable dan thor/superman. Taking a beating from tenebrous and aegis two galctus lvl beings (who tried to kill im) by the big gs own admission and not only surviving but still having enough strength to summon and channel the crunch enrgies, a feat that galactus himself said would be tough on its own evn 4 im. .

And yeah the hulks strength, duranility, h factor and evrything else increase proportionally with his anger. Hence the reason dat more powerful versions of hulk are more durable and heal faster e.g WWH heals faster and is more durable than normal savage and savage and the same goes for savage in relation to prof or grey hulk. To further show it a calm hulk had his bones broken by the void while WWH exhausted the sentrys entire enrgy reserve s and still did not go down

Well WWH and may not be mindless hulk but the mindless hulks base strength is also insanely high.

Lastly for the sentrey incident, sentry is not weak the hellicarrier thing has been discussed numerous times and it has been reasoned dat because of d sentrys lack of the ability to affect all points of an object by touching only one part( possesed by supes and hulk) he could only slow the hellicarrier and not stop it without risking its destruction. Being able to stalemate genis vell, and punk terrax hardly qualifies u as weak.

I disagree that he stalemated genis vell. Why do many take that fight as such? And weak is a relative term.