Spiderman Vs Jubilee

Started by Dizzle8 pages

Originally posted by Creshosk
How is that an instant win for spidey?

How does that stop her from attacking?

I'd say the further away the better for jubilee, gives her more time to get her blast off. Up to the out of range area, then things get tricky. If he's close enough he has less ground to cover, so has a better chance of getting to her.

Simple shock value. Getting hit in the face by any projectile would make her pause. In that time, Spiderman should be able to either get out of the way to let her suffocate or get in close enough to finish her quickly.

Unless they're fighting in a field, starting at or near the edge of the blast radius would almost guarantee a win for Spiderman, since it's much more likely that he can sneak up on her than vice versa. From far away, she pulls a blast from the start. He goes from tree to tree or building to building and jumps her. There's always the magical spot in between where he won't be fast enough to get away or get to her before she lets a blast go. I'm gonna say Spiderman wins 7/10.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Simple shock value. Getting hit in the face by any projectile would make her pause. In that time, Spiderman should be able to either get out of the way to let her suffocate or get in close enough to finish her quickly.

Unless they're fighting in a field, starting at or near the edge of the blast radius would almost guarantee a win for Spiderman, since it's much more likely that he can sneak up on her than vice versa. From far away, she pulls a blast from the start. He goes from tree to tree or building to building and jumps her. There's always the magical spot in between where he won't be fast enough to get away or get to her before she lets a blast go. I'm gonna say Spiderman wins 7/10.

Yeas because once she lets one blast go that's it she's done for. . what's this sneaking up crap?

And I doubt being hit in the face would distract her that long.

And she can paf the webs off her face.

And yes once he jumps on a tree or building her blast is neutralized. . what "magic spot" in an omnidirectional blast?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeas because once she lets one blast go that's it she's done for. . what's this sneaking up crap?

And I doubt being hit in the face would distract her that long.

And she can paf the webs off her face.

And yes once he jumps on a tree or building her blast is neutralized. . what "magic spot" in an omnidirectional blast?

I didn't say that. Is she going to jsut sit there and blast constantly without seeing an enemy? Spiderman is insanely agile, and his enhancements let him be pretty much silent. He even has the sweet thing where he can sense if someone looks in his direction. I think it's very likely that if he gets out of the blast radius for the initial attack, he can get close enough to Jubilee without her knowing about it to get one shot in. Cuz that's all he needs.

She's blowing webs off of her face? Is she immune to their effects? And if she tries that before a big blast, it'd definitely take more time than it would take Spiderman to get close to her.

I meant he would use trees or buildings (depending on the setting) for hiding, so as to get close enough to punch her, not to neutralize a blast. The "magic spot" is a spot where Spiderman starts that he can not get to Jubilee, or get out of the blast radius. Basically, it's a spot where Jubilee is almost guaranteed a win.

If she gets him on the first attack, she wins. If not, Spiderman's killing her with stealth or webs.

Originally posted by Dizzle
I didn't say that. Is she going to jsut sit there and blast constantly without seeing an enemy?
That's the beauty about omnidirectional blasts, she can if she wants.

No point in pretending she can dodge when we both know that it takes more than olympic level gymnastics to dodge his webbing. . .

Originally posted by Dizzle
Spiderman is insanely agile, and his enhancements let him be pretty much silent.
So spiderman get's a stealth advantage? Then lets give Jubilee an imunity to webbing advantage. . .

Originally posted by Dizzle
He even has the sweet thing where he can sense if someone looks in his direction. I think it's very likely that if he gets out of the blast radius for the initial attack, he can get close enough to Jubilee without her knowing about it to get one shot in. Cuz that's all he needs.
Yes because Omnidirectional blasts not only have to be aimed but they only go in one direction. 🙄

Originally posted by Dizzle
She's blowing webs off of her face? Is she immune to their effects?
She'd be the first mutant that wasn't immune to her own powers.

Originally posted by Dizzle
And if she tries that before a big blast, it'd definitely take more time than it would take Spiderman to get close to her.
Unless . . you know that omnidirectional blast?

Oh wait, that only goes in one direction and has to be aimed. . .

Originally posted by Dizzle
I meant he would use trees or buildings (depending on the setting) for hiding,
YEs because blasts that shatter steel and wood are going to have zero effect on trees abd buildings. . . Despite destorying buildings. . .

Originally posted by Dizzle
so as to get close enough to punch her, not to neutralize a blast.[/quote[ But neutrilizing her blasts is exatly what those trees that survived the initial and subsequent blasts is going to do.

[QUOTE=5481476]Originally posted by Dizzle
The "magic spot" is a spot where Spiderman starts that he can not get to Jubilee, or get out of the blast radius. Basically, it's a spot where Jubilee is almost guaranteed a win.

I guess that "magic spot" only works 3/10 times or something?

Originally posted by Dizzle
If she gets him on the first attack, she wins. If not, Spiderman's killing her with stealth or webs.
🙄

It's difficult to be immune to explosions... so I'm not sure about that one. I'm not entirely sure if she performed an omnidirectional blast, she seems to fire blasts in an arc aimed primarily at Mandarin, rather than a single blast in all directions, are there other occurrences I don't recall.
Psylocke is fine after that particular blast though.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's difficult to be immune to explosions... so I'm not sure about that one.
It's not however difficult t obe immune to your own powers. 😉

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm not entirely sure if she performed an omnidirectional blast, she seems to fire blasts in an arc aimed primarily at Mandarin, rather than a single blast in all directions, are there other occurrences I don't recall.
Destroyed Harry's wherehouse, and yes it destroyed the mansion.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Psylocke is fine after that particular blast though.
Wasn't a very well controlled blast, plus that was at pretty much the start of her career, mutant do tend to get better with their powers over time when trained. Especially at Xaviers.

I respect Jubilee as much as the next person, you know that, Cresh. But Spiderman has just got too much in the right places to lose to her. He's far too fast, agile, and has far better reflexes then her. I know this is obvious, but I'm just saying.

Any sort of directional blast she makes will be avoided, though he probably will take a few direct shots, cuz well, he gets hit sometimes. But the blasts alone aren't going to be enough to put him down. And in all that time, he would've definitely webbed her face or hands or something. And besides that one showing you posted, I've never seen Jubilee instantly pull off an omnidirectional blast. I know she can, but it would take her a few seconds to gather the energy.

In that time, Spiderman would've already done whatever it would take according to the situation. Web her face, web her to wall, hell, just leap and attack her.

He just has what it takes. No offense to Jubilee at all. I wish she would get more respect and better showings in the comics.

Spidey 8/10.

Originally posted by Creshosk
It's not however difficult t obe immune to your own powers. 😉

Destroyed Harry's wherehouse, and yes it destroyed the mansion.

Wasn't a very well controlled blast, plus that was at pretty much the start of her career, mutant do tend to get better with their powers over time when trained. Especially at Xaviers.

I thought the point was that she didn't control herself - that she let loose because of emotions. They can grow in power or be depowered, (😏) she's probably more powerful but it's hard to say - I haven't followed her character all that intently.

Btw do you have issue numbers for those other occurences? Just wanna have a look.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I respect Jubilee as much as the next person, you know that, Cresh.
I thought you respected her more than that. 🙁

Jubilee gets no respect, so "the next guy" indicating the general public. . doesn't respect her at all. . .

Originally posted by Metalmanx
But Spiderman has just got too much in the right places to lose to her. He's far too fast, agile, and has far better reflexes then her. I know this is obvious, but I'm just saying.

Any sort of directional blast she makes will be avoided, though he probably will take a few direct shots, cuz well, he gets hit sometimes. But the blasts alone aren't going to be enough to put him down. And in all that time, he would've definitely webbed her face or hands or something. And besides that one showing you posted, I've never seen Jubilee instantly pull off an omnidirectional blast. I know she can, but it would take her a few seconds to gather the energy.

Why would it? She's not like gambit where she converts potential energy into kinetic energy. . . She just combusts the molecules.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
In that time, Spiderman would've already done whatever it would take according to the situation. Web her face, web her to wall, hell, just leap and attack her.

He just has what it takes. No offense to Jubilee at all. I wish she would get more respect and better showings in the comics.

Spidey 8/10.

Well I respect you opinion, but I still think she takes 4-6/10

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I thought the point was that she didn't control herself - that she let loose because of emotions. They can grow in power or be depowered, (😏) she's probably more powerful but it's hard to say - I haven't followed her character all that intently.

Btw do you have issue numbers for those other occurences? Just wanna have a look.

Shoot, I recently compiled a list of all of her appearences in the normal timeline, so I'm affraid I've rather lost specifics of that sort of thing. . .(thinking about issue numbers and such. I'll see if I can get that to you. . .)

Originally posted by Creshosk
I thought you respected her more than that. 🙁

Jubilee gets no respect, so "the next guy" indicating the general public. . doesn't respect her at all. . .

Why would it? She's not like gambit where she converts potential energy into kinetic energy. . . She just combusts the molecules.

Well I respect you opinion, but I still think she takes 4-6/10

Okay, my bad. My wording was a bit off there. I should've said "I respect Jubilee a lot, actually. I think she's very underrated." Cuz that's really how I feel.

And actually, after giving it more thought, I think it's more Spidey 7/10, Jubes 3/10.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay, my bad. My wording was a bit off there. I should've said "I respect Jubilee a lot, actually. I think she's very underrated." Cuz that's really how I feel.

And actually, after giving it more thought, I think it's more Spidey 7/10, Jubes 3/10.

I was just givin ya a hard time. 😛

What kind of fanboy would I be though if I didn't defend her and give her ridiculous odds in this sort of scenerio? 😄

Wolverine I more or less play devils advocate. . Like in twister's "wolvie's villians vs Spidermans"

I don't really think that either magneto or Hulk are Wolverine's rogues. Hell Venom and carnage can take apart most of Wolverine's rogues.

😈 Course in that thread, what with everyone agreeing that spiderman's villians win there isn't much debate in there. kinda gets boring, especially when there is(well not anymore I was reaching at the end there) potential to discuss something.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I was just givin ya a hard time. 😛

What kind of fanboy would I be though if I didn't defend her and give her ridiculous odds in this sort of scenerio? 😄

Wolverine I more or less play devils advocate. . Like in twister's "wolvie's villians vs Spidermans"

I don't really think that either magneto or Hulk are Wolverine's rogues. Hell Venom and carnage can take apart most of Wolverine's rogues.

😈 Course in that thread, what with everyone agreeing that spiderman's villians win there isn't much debate in there. kinda gets boring, especially when there is(well not anymore I was reaching at the end there) potential to discuss something.

I follow you. I do the same thing sometimes in certain threads.

I really do think Jubilee needs to get more respect though. She has so much potential, she could really be a real contender on the X-men if the writers would just give her a chance.

And yea, I agree. Venom or Carnage could waste most of Wolverine's rogues. Nor would I call Hulk or Magneto Wolverine villians either.

spider man of course would kick that childs butt. if he can take on most of his enemies that are more powerful than jubilee. then of course he could knock the brat out. same with wolverine. hope you read this creshosk to make you cry again. that others are saying that your little baby jubilee gets her ass kicked.

Originally posted by Creshosk
She defeats sentinals:

Not a very big sentinel... at least the sentinels SM kicked around were much bigger 😄

only 1 or 2 times she got one. and one almost took her out for good shes lucky one of the other xmens was there.

Originally posted by gladiator69
spider man of course would kick that childs butt. if he can take on most of his enemies that are more powerful than jubilee. then of course he could knock the brat out. same with wolverine. hope you read this creshosk to make you cry again. that others are saying that your little baby jubilee gets her ass kicked.
Wow 😄 you truly are a moron. 😄

Appearently he thinks I'm a little girl, and appearently he like to make little girls cry.

and I get to disappoint him on three levels. Not little, not a girl and his dumbass couldn't make a guy chopping onions cry. . . unless it's laughing at his sorry ass too hard. 😆

Originally posted by who?-kid
Not a very big sentinel... at least the sentinels SM kicked around were much bigger 😄
And woyuld hje beable to fight the tri-sentinal without the cosmic powers he had? 😉

Originally posted by Creshosk
And would he beable to fight the tri-sentinal without the cosmic powers he had? 😉

Tri ? I am not speaking of that stupid story lol.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Tri ? I am not speaking of that stupid story lol.
Ah, 😄

Well Spiderman would do better if he doesn't underestimate her of course.

If he does he's going to pay for that mistake.

Same goes for Jubes.