Onslaught vs. tyrant · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Mordum Senior Member

Onslaught vs. tyrant

i dont know much about onslaught cept he is part xavior and something with magneto. Anyways who would win a duel? give reasons of pics.

Acrosurge Lumine Infinitus

Tyrant shrugs and Onslaught vanishes from existance. Tyrant draws his energy directly from all the planets in the universe. He's injured a fully powered Galactus. He commands cosmic energy on comparable levels with Galactus. I don't see any way for Onslaught to harm him.

Lucid Lui Air Laki Laki

Tyrant whoops him...

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

onslaught could be argued to be at thanos level. with the ability to create that sun (whether through his own power or as a result of franklin) perhaps above thanos.

either way, doesn't matter in this fight. tyrant would have to be very weak for onslaught to have ANY chance. strong tyrant beats him handily (as he was demolishing thanos before thanos used tyrant's stolen power against him.)

Draco69 Snarky Slytherin

Who is this Onslaught you speak of? I don't know him.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

doh

btw welcome back draco. you missed some good debates in the last week or so.

DrDoom101 Last Son of the Sith

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Draco69 Snarky Slytherin

Originally posted by leonidas
doh
btw welcome back draco. you missed some good debates in the last week or so.

Thank ya! 😄

LordKaos LET KAOS REIGN!

in his final incarnation Onslaught became one with perception, and if reality is really subjective and everything is a mass of atoms given shape by how sentient beings perceive them, i'd say Onslaught wins.

joesha28 Asgard's Advocate

Tyrant, depowered is on the level between Thanos and Skyfather-level.

demigawd Board Scientist

I guess it depends on which version of Onslaught you're talking about.
Xavier/Magneto version loses horribly
Xavier/Magneto/X-man version could go either way
Xavier/Magneto/X-man/Franklin Richards version would win after a tough fight - his ability to take damage would be a question, but his offense is superior, having the powers of Franklin Richards
Final Form Onslaught would win EASILY. There's be no physical way for Tyrant to win, and FFO has significant reality-warping powers, putting him beyond Celestial level. This version was destroyed via plot device before he had a chance to really get going.

Ethereal KMC Herald

onslaught would win if he had frankilins powers + the others

Franklin = celestial

celestial > tyrant

Molecule man Senior Member

Franklin has the potential to be as powerful as a Celestial but it's all speculation. I could say MM has the potential to be IG equal

Acrosurge Lumine Infinitus

Originally posted by Ethereal
onslaught would win if he had frankilins powers + the others
Franklin = celestial
celestial > tyrant

I disagree with this. A full-powered Galactus is up there in power with Eternity and Death (in fact, he's the balance between the two). Tyrant was able to fight and injure a well-fed Galactus, which would indicate that Tyrant is greater than a Celestial.

I admit that the Cosmic Hierchy is open to speculation. Besides the Living Tribunal, Death, Infinity, and Eternity, no clear hierchy has been stated for Marvel's upper Cosmic characters.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

Originally posted by demigawd
I guess it depends on which version of Onslaught you're talking about.
Xavier/Magneto version loses horribly
Xavier/Magneto/X-man version could go either way
Xavier/Magneto/X-man/Franklin Richards version would win after a tough fight - his ability to take damage would be a question, but his offense is superior, having the powers of Franklin Richards
Final Form Onslaught would win EASILY. There's be no physical way for Tyrant to win, and FFO has significant reality-warping powers, putting him beyond Celestial level. This version was destroyed via plot device before he had a chance to really get going.

xavier/mag/xman could go either way?eer those 3 could take out a well fed, high powered galactus? ❌

the richards version was not shown to have command of all of richard's powers. even after demonstrating some abilities to alter reality the heroes were still able to inflict damage on him -- it's not like he wiped them out with ease as a celestial would do. he spent most of his time shielding himself from them.

final form was never shown to be capable of anything really, though the fact that the life forces of the heroes was enough to disrupt him doesn't bode well for his beatintg tyrant, PIS as the whole conclusion was. being invulnerable to what the heroes could do is FAR from 'proof' that he would be 'proof' against someone of tyrant's power level. why couldn't tyrant simply absorb his energy form? would have been interesting if ss were present at the fight . . .

in any event, it's all pure speculation, demi. i argued a long time against gs in the onslaught v thanos thread (a classic) that onslaught could be seen to be at thanos' level and maybe above. but to say just because he had some access to franklin's ability makes him celestial level (if even THAT level could defeat a fully powered-galactus level tyrant) is purist speculation.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

Originally posted by Acrosurge
I disagree with this. A full-powered Galactus is up there in power with Eternity and Death (in fact, he's the balance between the two). Tyrant was able to fight and injure a well-fed Galactus, which would indicate that Tyrant is greater than a Celestial.
I admit that the Cosmic Hierchy is open to speculation. Besides the Living Tribunal, Death, Infinity, and Eternity, no clear hierchy has been stated for Marvel's upper Cosmic characters.

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at least it is a distinct possibilty depending maybe on WHICH celestial.

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by leonidas
xavier/mag/xman could go either way?eer those 3 could take out a well fed, high powered galactus? ❌
the richards version was not shown to have command of all of richard's powers. even after demonstrating some abilities to alter reality the heroes were still able to inflict damage on him -- it's not like he wiped them out with ease as a celestial would do. he spent most of his time shielding himself from them.
final form was never shown to be capable of anything really, though the fact that the life forces of the heroes was enough to disrupt him doesn't bode well for his beatintg tyrant, PIS as the whole conclusion was. being invulnerable to what the heroes could do is FAR from 'proof' that he would be 'proof' against someone of tyrant's power level. why couldn't tyrant simply absorb his energy form? would have been interesting if ss were present at the fight . . .
in any event, it's all pure speculation, demi. i argued a long time against gs in the onslaught v thanos thread (a classic) that onslaught could be seen to be at thanos' level and maybe above. but to say just because he had some access to franklin's ability makes him celestial level (if even THAT level could defeat a fully powered-galactus level tyrant) is purist speculation.

Agreed. Tyrant all the way. 😉

who?-kid Senior Member

I vote Onslaught, only because he is much cooler (and less ugly) than the boring Tyrant lol. Talk about a biased opinion. 😄

Oh, and Onslaught >>> Thanos.

Mordum Senior Member

Yeah onslaught is one tough cookie. remeber marvel vs. capcom....dang he was hard. Unless you use chun li cheating kick move. 😛

Beyonder Senior Member

Originally posted by demigawd
I guess it depends on which version of Onslaught you're talking about.
Xavier/Magneto version loses horribly
Xavier/Magneto/X-man version could go either way
Xavier/Magneto/X-man/Franklin Richards version would win after a tough fight - his ability to take damage would be a question, but his offense is superior, having the powers of Franklin Richards
Final Form Onslaught would win EASILY. There's be no physical way for Tyrant to win, and FFO has significant reality-warping powers, putting him beyond Celestial level. This version was destroyed via plot device before he had a chance to really get going.

😆 His most powerful form was armorless. The heroes dove into him and beat him, ended up in the Heroes Reborn universe.

Tyrant rips apart his armor and slams into Onslaught.

1] Onslaught dies and Tyrant survies.
2] Onslaught dies and Tyrant ends up in the HR universe.

Either way Tyrant wins.

Additionally, Onslaught fought a few top tiers. Thor was depowered. Surfer wasn't around. Strange was left out.