Elites do not have motion detectors did you completely ignore my post or what. How exactly are the elites better with their sword than the space pirates. Most blue elites don't have an exstensive amount of combat experience to begin with. Also if the space pirate gets through the shield and scores a direct hit with his shot it's going to do a lot more damage to the elite than a shot to the body of an SP.
Originally posted by IcePunk
Are you color blind? Those dudes were more black than blue and why should we trust a beta video by the way?
how so???
The arbitor has the motion detector.... unless you can catagoricaly tell me that Elites don't have motion detectors I will ignore your post... We have seen that the arbitor had one.. The burden of proof is in your court... Prove they don't, Not some vague "I don't see it on them"...
hell the armour could even put the image into there brain...
I would say the SP and Elites have equal trainning... Its hard to prove that one has more then the other...
Why do you figure that a SP is going to do a lot more damage to the elite, than a elite shot to the body of an SP....
"The most common and least experienced Elite. Minors are still skilled warriors superior to any human marine."
Marines aren't pushovers! Elites will be fully able to use there weapons...
I believe the SP sword was made of metal... The plasma sword cuts through metal, 3 meters of titanium... How much stronger is SP metal compared to that???
Seeing as they can take damage from a flame thrower and energy based canon, I think they will take lost more damage from a Plasma sword...
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Marines aren't pushovers! Elites will be fully able to use there weapons...
I believe the SP sword was made of metal... The plasma sword cuts through metal, 3 meters of titanium... How much stronger is SP metal compared to that???
Seeing as they can take damage from a flame thrower and energy based canon, I think they will take lost more damage from a Plasma sword...
Oh yeah the motion detector is imprinted into his brain i'm sure. What other proof do you want besides the fact there is no visible or reasonable way for the elites to have radar that they can easily use. The SP also has alot more health than the elite. Elites strength are in their shields ability to absorb damage their actual ability to take body shots and physical damage is much smaller. Even if the arbiter can survive one bullet that just barely broke through his shield it doesn't mean that an elite could survive multiple plasma blasts without their shield. On the other hand SP's can take roughly about the same or more damage without a shield so their armor and life must be much greater than that of an elites. The SP's scythes are made out of energy too so the sword couldn't cut through it. Seeing as how an elite is killed by one swipe of a plasma sword I think that they would take a great deal of damage too if they were hit. Space pirate warriors are also superior to almost any other military infantryman besides Samus.
Originally posted by Shadow x 20
You want more Blue Elites with swords. Go ahead and play the first Arbiter level again. You'll see them. And the books are cannon. They do not contradict with the games at all. And again can you prove that Elites do not have motion sensors? Can you show me any proof that the Elites do not have motion sensors. Why would the Covenant with more advanced weapons then the humans not include motion sensors? Not to mention they have keen sense of smell. The Arbiter smelt the flood when they weren't even near them yet. The Arbiter recovered from multi bullet wounds in a short amount of time. Enough time for him to fight the Brutes. And Brutes can flip the Covenant Spectra in the last Halo 2 mission and Elites are not that weaker then the Brutes.
Erm....... Shadow, the arbiter wasn't the one who made the statement about the stench of the flood, it was that other elite who we see telling the arbiter that he doesn't care about his life on the ship. And when was it that the Arbiter recovered from multi bullet wounds in a short amount of time? Physically the brutes are stronger, but the elites are much more intelligent. The elites that you see carrying enery swords in the first arbiter level are black specops, not blue. And before you even go onto saying that the blue elites used energy swords in later levels, just don't. The elites were put in a very difficult position and were betrayed by the profits and the brutes. At this point it is hard to say if they even follow their religion anymore so that makes it a distinct possiblity that they used energy swords because they were powerful and were available at the time.
Hit and Miss, here is the actual quote from p.30 of the Halo 2 strategy guide:
"Senior Elites use this traditional weapon with pride in battle;its use by their lower orders or other Covenant is strictly forbidden. When tuilized in close combat, the energy sword can slice through shields and armor with consummate ease. The trick, of course, is to get close enough to do so. Most opponents will be wise enough to fire and move backards as you charge; at anything other than short distances, this is almost suicidal. That's why this weapon is very useful against the Flood."
And a list of the elites' ranks is as follows: minor elite(blue), major elite(red), stealth elite(grey), specops(black), ranger(jetpack), zealot(golden), and last honor guard.
It's also difficult to put an actual gage on the limit of Master Chief's strength. I'm not sure if they ever actually give us numbers. We are given a range for their speed, but never their strength. At the worst I would place his strength (storywise) at about 10 tons at the best 25-30.
Re: Just to make the rules kind clear for "steven"
Originally posted by swedish_bum
It's kind of obvious that I made this thread therefor I the one who makes the rules, I wasnt reffering to the forum rules, I named the thread "Space pirate(metroid) vs Elite (Halo) and not Space pirate(metroid vs Elite (from the halo books). You yourself have proven that Elites from the books are waaaaaaayy different from the ones from the games and therefor they cant be classified as the same.
Also I meant the elites from halo as in number 1 (kind of obvious) considering that they've got better shields making it a little more fair for the poor thing.
And NO, if the energy isnt standard equipment for the elites then this guy is no exception.
Now follow these rules plz.
PS: I think bum meant to say "And NO, if the energy sword isnt standard" and so on.
lol... even though hes posted pics of SP from MP 2 all the way through this thread... I thought he made those rules up as a joke!! not to mention he thinks elites in halo1 are better to elites in halo 2....😆
The majority of the tweaks made to halo2 over 1 were so that multiplayer on xbox live was fair...
Lol! The shields were turned down slightly, To counter this they upped the armor. This was so that the guns could be fixed to make Online Play more fair.
The plasma cuts through shields
The Machine guns cut through Armour..
That way its fair online....
So no, Halo 2 elites are better then Halo 1... So for it to be "fair" the halo 2 elite should be used, as he is superior...