Originally posted by pr1983Oh there is nothing like just hitting someone so hard you knock their helmet off.
rugby. with pads.😛
nice tackles though... thats one thing i love about american football... the tackles are awesome...
Also the nice sound the pads make hitting each other. Honestly they don't offer as near as much protection as one would think. 😛
Originally posted by Newjak
Oh there is nothing like just hitting someone so hard you knock their helmet off.Also the nice sound the pads make hitting each other. Honestly they don't offer as near as much protection as one would think. 😛
that makes me want to play it... i'm big enough that i think i could cause some real pain... 😈
Originally posted by pr1983How big are you?
that makes me want to play it... i'm big enough that i think i could cause some real pain... 😈
Oh putting your hand on the ground and ear holing someone(Hitting on the side of the helmet often causing them to go all loopy) is the greatest then going over to your teammate to head butt them.
Its an Adrenaline Rush of the highest order
Originally posted by Newjak
You do realize the fact that those high profile players got caught should tell you that many aren't as many lesser known athletes aren't caught on regular basisAnd rumors aren't definitive proof to go on. Most high profile stars just like actors will always have accusations thrown at them doesn't mean it is true.
The fact is that if I wanted to name every person who hasn't tested positive for Steroids my list would far exceed yours
Point Made
It would but that proves little.
Today only🙂
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Yesterday
http://www.drugsinsport.net/daily_archives2007/DIS07-mar25.html
etc.
Originally posted by Flame On!!
If that was really the case so few really high profile stars wouldn't get caught.Soccer - Ronaldo rumours
Jap Stam caught
etc.Sprinters everyone from Ben Johnson to Linford Christie you name an Olympic champion and they have had rumours around them or been caught e.g. Flo Jo god rest her soul.
Rugby - almost the entire welsh team a while ago got caught. Laurance D admitted supplying and was stripped of the England captaincy even after he later claimed to"have been joking"
Cricket - Shane Warne the best player in the world maybe of all time caught.These are sports I know abouts so...................
Lots are using HGH because it's untestable.
Point made!
🙂
-FO!!
Originally posted by Newjak
How big are you?Oh putting your hand on the ground and ear holing someone(Hitting on the side of the helmet often causing them to go all loopy) is the greatest then going over to your teammate to head butt them.
Its an Adrenaline Rush of the highest order
buot 6' 1", bout 170-180 punds... stocky build... decent level of upper body strength i guess...
you really get into it don't you?
Originally posted by Flame On!!You do realize most of those deal with testing regulations right?
It would but that proves little.Today only🙂
Anti-doping agency says banned substance in drug find
Australia's anti-doping agency said Monday that a banned substance was found at a hotel hosting a number of teams attending the world swimming championships [IHT, France]New Play True Issue Explores New Paradigm in Anti-Doping
A new issue of WADA’s flagship magazine Play True dedicated to the new evolution in the fight against doping is now available [WADA]Inadequate tests fan doping suspicions
The banned drug that plunged the 1998 Fina World Championships into crisis will not be tested for in Melbourne, a report said Sunday, as a former coach said it was impossible to believe the sport was drug-free [The Standard, Hong Kong]Chinese insist this really is their best
Zhang, who has been China's head coach since late 2005, complained that the western media continually cast suspicion on the Chinese team despite it having cleaned up its act. [The Australian]Russia's Ivanenko banned two years for doping
Russian world swimming champion Anastasiya Ivanenko was banned on Sunday for two years after failing a doping test [Guardian, UK]NFL union won't support steroid ‘witch hunt’
Players can only be suspended for positive test, Upshaw says [MSNBC, USA]Cousins plan in limbo as new claims hit AFL drugs policy
The AFL’s drugs policy came under more pressure yesterday when Health Minister Jim McGinty said it had failed and needed to be toughened to reflect a zero-tolerance approach [The West Australian]Sponsors standing by AFL - for time being
AFL officials say there has been no sponsor backlash against the code in the wake of the disturbing West Coast drugs dramas of the past week [SMH, Australia]Secret weapon to stop UK's athletes wilting
Scientists from across the UK are being funded in a special project set up by UK Sport, the governing body for sport in Britain, to find ways of giving British athletes a crucial edge over their rivals in the 2008 Games ... "all technical novelties used or worn by riders have to be approved before they can be used in a race" [Telegraph, UK]Random drug tests becoming a fact of life for riders
Jockeys and track riders knew the net authorities would cast across Flemington would be hard to evade, and the consequences of returning a positive test far-reaching. Everyone from the upper echelon of jockeys down to a first-year apprentice is tested [The Age, Australia]Yesterday
http://www.drugsinsport.net/daily_archives2007/DIS07-mar25.html
etc.
The others are either positive test or assumptions on possible trends most don't even have people actually testing positive on anything.
The fact is that if that is what you want to stand on as solid proof that most athletes are users well I think your a smart enough guy to understand that accusations are not what you want to make a factual statement on.
Originally posted by Newjak
You do realize most of those deal with testing regulations right?The others are either positive test or assumptions on possible trends most don't even have people actually testing positive on anything.
The fact is that if that is what you want to stand on as solid proof that most athletes are users well I think your a smart enough guy to understand that accusations are not what you want to make a factual statement on.
Yup, only one world champion banned yesterday. Lots of new suspicions to be followed up and 1 banned the day before etc.
🙂 Now factor in masking agents.
-FO!!
Originally posted by Flame On!!And how many Athletes are in the world you could ban one person everyday for the next 2 years and it still probably wouldn't equal 1% of the total athletic population 😬
Yup, only one world champion banned yesterday. Lots of new suspicions to be followed up and 1 banned the day before etc.🙂
-FO!!
And adding in Masking Agents would include what how many people would that be another 2-8% of people?
Originally posted by Newjak
And how many Athletes are in the world you could ban one person everyday for the next 2 years and it still probably wouldn't equal 1% of the total athletic population 😬
Yup but these are world champions they are tested much more rigorously and have access to the best msking agents, doctors etc. They are under much more scrutiny but have many more tricks. They are the top 1% this sends the message winneers take gear so the nearly winners have to take it to compete. Thereffore as these are the role models others take it. For top athletes I think the point is made.
The USADA doesn't publish % positive results for your country
but 3 more were banned Sunday so 4 we know of that were top level these three are American including Tim Montgomery. This also happened in your drug free NFL at the weekend.
http://www.charlotte.com/129/story/62646.html
The more you dig.
Now if we extrpolate from your original figure to 5 times your 2 - 8% based on our new data 😉 and this is just what we know of.
Originally posted by Newjak
And how many Athletes are in the world you could ban one person everyday for the next 2 years and it still probably wouldn't equal 1% of the total athletic population 😬And adding in Masking Agents would include what how many people would that be another 2-8% of people?
🙂
-FO!!
Originally posted by Flame On!!If anything the fact that these champions got caught should tell you that lesser known athletes would have a much harder time actually getting through the testing. Which shows that most athletes don't take it because there is too big a risk of getting caught.
Yup but these are world champions they are tested much more rigorously and have access to the best msking agents, doctors etc. They are under much more scrutiny but have many more tricks. They are the top 1% this sends the message winneers take gear so the nearly winners have to take it to compete. Thereffore as these are the role models others take it. For top athletes I think the point is made.The USADA doesn't publish % positive results for your country
but 3 more were banned Sunday so 4 we know of that were top level these three are American including Tim Montgomery. This also happened in your drug free NFL at the weekend.
http://www.charlotte.com/129/story/62646.html
The more you dig.
🙂
-FO!!
Now am I saying that no athlete takes no I've already stated that as high as 10-15% may be using off and on but the fact is that since a large majority of people who take tests are never found positive for a reason.
Also how can you add to my 2-8% of possible people using masking agents nothing you have shown gives any real indication of any number you could add.
Originally posted by Newjak
If anything the fact that these champions got caught should tell you that lesser known athletes would have a much harder time actually getting through the testing. Which shows that most athletes don't take it because there is too big a risk of getting caught.Now am I saying that no athlete takes no I've already stated that as high as 10-15% may be using off and on but the fact is that since a large majority of people who take tests are never found positive for a reason.
Also how can you add to my 2-8% of possible people using masking agents nothing you have shown gives any real indication of any number you could add.
In fact the truth is we have no indications of any real numbers especially when it's clear many bodies like the NFL actually try and protect athletes from positive results.
All we can go on is personal experience and opinion. My personal experience is one of use. Yours is one of non use.
I believe the fact champions with access to the best advice and masking agents getting caught indicates it's more prevelent. You do not agree. It's that simple. The one thing we have agreed is that generally non steroid trainers are weaker and heres proof of that at least.
Disqualified in 2004 the strongest strongman of all time.... Marius.
Steroid users are stronger.
🙂 It's that simple.
-FO!!