Originally posted by ZephroCarnelianThis is as close as it gets to an answer.
Depends.Sometimes in comics, Supes is depicted as able to see Flash and nearly move as fast.
Sometimes he's shown to not be anywhere near as fast.
Flash could do some damage.
But I think Supes still takes it due to his multiple varied powers.
Originally posted by kgkgSuperman collapses his lungs by breathing in as the fights starts, like he did to the guy in Manchester Black's team The Elite. In issue 775.
I have an argument Flash steal Superman Speed making him slower than a HumanThen beats him to death
Ok guys counter that.
Your turn.
[Both of these guys have rediculous things at their disposal and a thousand or so comics to back both of them up.]
Originally posted by kgkgNot quite, Superman while unable to time travel, can bend and slow time he moves so fast just like Wally. For all intensive purposes, he's as fast as Flash is. Many many times light speed. Even in combat.
by the time Superman collapses his lungs Superman whould be have his energy jacked.Your turn.
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Superman even mentions this while he was fighting the JLA[Sacrifice series, before the fight with Wonder Woman.] under Max Lord's power that Flash is indeed not fast enought to defeat him.
Originally posted by Juntai
Not quite, Superman while unable to time travel, can bend and slow time he moves so fast just like Wally. For all intensive purposes, he's as fast as Flash is. Many many times light speed. Even in combat.Superman even mentions this while he was fighting the JLA[Sacrifice series, before the fight with Wonder Woman.] under Max Lord's power that Flash is indeed not fast enought to defeat him.
I believe it was "Flash is fast enough to see it coming, but not fast enough to do anything about it" or something similar.
Originally posted by Juntai
Not quite, Superman while unable to time travel, can bend and slow time he moves so fast just like Wally. For all intensive purposes, he's as fast as Flash is. Many many times light speed. Even in combat.Superman even mentions this while he was fighting the JLA[Sacrifice series, before the fight with Wonder Woman.] under Max Lord's power that Flash is indeed not fast enought to defeat him.
Superman is no where near Flash’s speed. ( at least on earth)
Superman is close to Flash speed (at normal levels) when Flash absorb kinetic energy Superman will look like he is frozen in time.
and you are not really countering anything here.
here is what am saying
Fight start Flash instantly absorbs Superman Speed , make him Frozen.
He caught everyone there off guard considering they thought he had his head on straight and was docile. He beat the entire league save for Wonder Woman and Batman. He couldn't pull that off under normal circumstances.
I know Superman says a lot about his speed compared to Wally but it's still just hearsay. It's like the time Kyle claimed the entire JLA was weaksauce compared to him.
Originally posted by kgkgAnd what I'm saying, is that in combat, Superman is faster than Flash. And it's been proven time and time again. The example I gave is RECENT, where's your example?
FalseSuperman is no where near Flash’s speed. ( at least on earth)
Superman is close to Flash speed (at normal levels) when Flash absorb kinetic energy Superman will look like he is frozen in time.
and you are not really countering anything here.
here is what am saying
Fight start Flash instantly absorbs Superman Speed , make him Frozen.
Flash needs to touch Superman to win in your scenario.
Superman can win the fight before that's done.
Originally posted by Juntai
And what I'm saying, is that in combat, Superman is faster than Flash. And it's been proven time and time again. The example I gave is RECENT, where's your example?Flash needs to touch Superman to win in your scenario.
Superman can win the fight before that's done.
Flash wins
Originally posted by The IonHe took out Martian Manhunter, and Wally sprung into Action to fight him, then he handled it.. How wasn't Wally ready?
He caught everyone there off guard considering they thought he had his head on straight and was docile. He beat the entire league save for Wonder Woman and Batman. He couldn't pull that off under normal circumstances.I know Superman says a lot about his speed compared to Wally but it's still just hearsay. It's like the time Kyle claimed the entire JLA was weaksauce compared to him.
And, he did beat Batman too. Chokeslammed into the console and put him in critical condition remember?