Its quite self explanatory.
They are all fairly equal in duelling ability and conditioning. That is what 3 years of war will do to you. True, Mace and Obi-Wan both have more wisdom and experience, but Anakin also has great potential and has a way of beating the odds (I do hope you didnt disregard the Clone Wars miniseries).
And is putting a question mark in front and at the end of your 'sentence' normal this day and age...
Mace should be able to do this. first he makes sure he gets drivin' back by anakin and obi, of course he is able to do this. Anakin then thinks he can kill him cuz he is the most talented jedi. anakin becomes overconfident and then when he lets his guard down in his confident attack, mace kills him with ease. after that obi-wan forfeits the match cuz he cant win alone. That's the trick with anakin just let him think you are weak and take advantage of it.
Originally posted by Darth Avis
1) novelization and since the movie does not contridict then it is fact.
2) he wasn't second in the order only because of his saber skills.
But with Anakin and Obi-Wan working together I think Mace would amazingly hard pressed.
I doubt that Mace could take out Obi-Wan if he is paired with Anakin, as he is amazingly efficient with Soresu. But Anakin is the problem. However its a good estimation to assume that Mace and Dooku are roughly equal, and Anakin managed to beat Dooku rather quickly when dipping into the Dark Side a little. This would either work or it wouldnt or Mace.
Originally posted by exanda kaneThat is bull. Mave beat sidious. Obi beat anakin. BIG DIFFERENCE! Mace is MUCH stronger then them. He can do this just as easy as dooku.
Its quite self explanatory.They are all fairly equal in duelling ability and conditioning. That is what 3 years of war will do to you. True, Mace and Obi-Wan both have more wisdom and experience, but Anakin also has great potential and has a way of beating the odds (I do hope you didnt disregard the Clone Wars miniseries).
And is putting a question mark in front and at the end of your 'sentence' normal this day and age...
Originally posted by Darth Avis
That is bull. Mave beat sidious. Obi beat anakin. BIG DIFFERENCE! Mace is MUCH stronger then them. He can do this just as easy as dooku.
Just because you seem unable to understand anything more than is presented to you on the screen, it doesnt mean you have to act stubborn and use some irrational-fanboy-thinking.
It was said that mace OVERPOWERED sidious. Sids didn't throw the fight. Mace won fair and square. The fact that sidious had nothing to throw in the room put him at a disadvantege. True the fight with sidious would have been different had it been in a full parking lot or something and yes that does mean that the fight goes either way depending on the location so i will give you that.
Anakin and Obi can also go either way so lets call them equal. By that logic we must call mace and sidious equal.
If this was Sidious vs obi and anakin we would all be agreed on the outcome. Mace can make up for his lack of uber force powers with his uber saberskills. We can also agree that mace has equal if not better force mastery then either of them. Mace has it made for him here.
I was not implying that it was Sidious' envirnment that maybe caused the fight to go in Mace's way - for thinking about it; in that small envirnoment I would imagine Anakin, maybe even Obi-Wan beating Sidious (maybe Obi winning is pushing it a bit far).
I agree however that Anakin and Obi-Wan couldnt take Sidious because of those Uberforce powers, however they'd be able to cope with Mace's saber skills.
Excuse me, but Anakin would take Sidious in that small space. I am severely doubtful that Anakin would not. It is incredibly likely that Sidious would try and goad Anakin into tapping into the Dark Side to try and make him become reckless, but I think that Anakin, if tapped into Dark Side, would push Sidious out of the way like he did with Dooku.
Obi-Wan is too passive and defensive to be able to lay an onslaught of blows onto Sidious, however he would be able to defend himself against.
And Anakin and Obi-Wan both rank among the top five duelists in the Jedi Order, they are not bad fighters, yet I hope this is just hyperbole.
However also realise that the critical factor in the Mace/Sidious fight was Anakin's intervention.
And yes, considering how good duelists Obi-Wan and Anakin are they would be able to hold Mace, yet I doubt they could both cope with Sidious' lightning.
Originally posted by exanda kane
Excuse me, but Anakin would take Sidious in that small space. I am severely doubtful that Anakin would not. It is incredibly likely that Sidious would try and goad Anakin into tapping into the Dark Side to try and make him become reckless, but I think that Anakin, if tapped into Dark Side, would push Sidious out of the way like he did with Dooku.Obi-Wan is too passive and defensive to be able to lay an onslaught of blows onto Sidious, however he would be able to defend himself against.
And Anakin and Obi-Wan both rank among the top five duelists in the Jedi Order, they are not bad fighters, yet I hope this is just hyperbole.
However also realise that the critical factor in the Mace/Sidious fight was Anakin's intervention.
And yes, considering how good duelists Obi-Wan and Anakin are they would be able to hold Mace, yet I doubt they could both cope with Sidious' lightning.
1. Sidious's saber skills are superior to both Obi-Wan's and Anakin's. Gillard and Lucas confirmed this.
2. Mace is, at the very least, on Count Dooku's level.
Originally posted by Darth Avis
sidious is an awsome dueler (i am not a fanboy) who beat three of the greatest PT jedi in seconds. That is without the force. He can beat anakin easy. anakin attacks and sidious uses a force push to throw anakin out of the window before anakin even reaches him. Great fight. lol
They were not some of the greatest Jedi of the PT era - unless you count the top fifteen - and he is an awesome dueler, even if he looks retarted when prodding the thing about.
And he used a Force Jump to leap towards then, otherwise he's way past Olympic qualifying distance for the long jump. And Sidious could never beat Anakin easy. Yet again I hope this is merely hyperbole on your behalf. You do however, seem to be dismissing both Anakin and Obi-Wan. Why? They were both the greatest war hero's of the Republic during the Clone Wars. Obi-Wan was nicknamed The Negotiator for his firm principles of choosing diplomacy over violence. But when need be, he could fight. I would not be able to psuh Sidious back like Mace, but he would be able to hold his ground. Did you ever expect Obi-Wan to panhandle Grievous that easily?
Anakin ends the Clone Wars as a duelist rivalling Mace and Yoda, aswell as Obi-Wan, with much more potential coming from him.
And I count Mace, Obi-Wan and Anakin as some of the only Jedi to be able to withstand Sidious' initial attack. Bearing in mind that had Sidious not have had to dispose of those Jedi beforehand, he probably would have lobbed Mace out of a window.