Originally posted by scotsmn
I guess he can make it do whatever he pleases 🙂 Here is an over the head thunderclap and it's effect.
Quite possible, and bwahaha I love old school Hulk
Originally posted by scotsmnDown low spreading out 360 in at least 2 dimensions
Eh? how is that 360? those lines that look like a circle are the movement of his hands not shockwaves.
Originally posted by scotsmnShown emitting force in the 3rd dimension as well (up down) as evidensed by the white lines radiating out of his hands.
Once again that wasn't 360, that attack was a direct assualt notice the damage was just in a straight line and the entire walls were not broken off. I think you misunderstood my description of what 360 I meant
Originally posted by King_Mungi
1) Not 360 again, direct attack2) Not 360 again, direct attack
3) This is the closest 360, but it mostly just hurt his senses due to the sheer sound. Which descriped is like a jet engine
The picture with the fire was 360 at least in 2d. It put out the fires all around him. The whole city was burning down.
The picture of him clapping over his head put down all the guys around him. That single scan describes what I'm talking about best. However you look at it, it's going to be damn near impossible to avoid it.
Originally posted by scotsmn
The picture with the fire was 360 at least in 2d. It put out the fires all around him. The whole city was burning down.The picture of him clapping over his head put down all the guys around him. That single scan describes what I'm talking about best. However you look at it, it's going to be damn near impossible to avoid it.
Doesn't show that, since the picture shows the shockwaves going forwards. Besides winds from a hurricane Aurora's body can take. Aurora is faster and can even hide behind Hulk where the thunderclap is going to do junk. Also she could even in a split second upon him doing it fly away from the shockwave and then repeat her attack. It's going to be damn hard for even him to hit her. I'm actually going more with a stalemate than anything now, unless her light powers grealty weaken him.
Yeah, I think that's the best example you had. However, since it was louder than the jet engine I think that's what stunned them most the "sonic boom" since even one is still on his kness and others getting up.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yeah, I think that's the best example you had. However, since it was louder than the jet engine I think that's what stunned them most the "sonic boom" since even one is still on his kness and others getting up.
C'mon, geesh. What his thunderclap is, is incredibly compressed air traveling in waves. The waves travel in all directions. Do you really think if the people behind him were deaf they wouldn't have hit the floor? It was an omnidirectional Thunderclap. Stop being stubborn!
P.S. if the thunderclap were stronger it would obviously have a greater effect. He knew he was only up against mere humans there.
Originally posted by scotsmn
C'mon, geesh. What his thunderclap is, is incredibly compressed air traveling in waves. The waves travel in all directions. Do you really think if the people behind him were deaf they wouldn't have hit the floor? It was an omnidirectional Thunderclap. Stop being stubborn!P.S. if the thunderclap were stronger it would obviously have a greater effect. He knew he was only up against mere humans there.
Yes, waves which Aurora can take if it's not a fully enraged Hulk. Also there hasn't been any indications yet he can do a full force one 360. Spidy got her from the sheer vibrations with the sound, hell Aurora use to curise around mach 10...you know how loud that has to be and the wind friction. Once again in a split second she can fly right out of the shockwave [faster than the speed of sound] and if she is directly behind him and he does a thunderclap striahgt across his body is going to shiled her from the attack.
Yeah and Hulk the same Hulk has wanted to kill normal humans. A calmed Hulk does not have the same strength as a enraged Hulk. That's my point. I highly doubt she could take a point blank enraged thunderclap
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yeah and Hulk the same Hulk has wanted to kill normal humans. A calmed Hulk does not have the same strength as a enraged Hulk. That's my point. I highly doubt she could take a point blank enraged thunderclap
King, Hulk's thunderclap does damage in all directions when it's above his head. Call it what you want, sound... waves... whatever it is, it does damage.
Hulk almost NEVER wants to kill humans. If he wanted them dead do you think they would be getting back up? He always says they are too weak to fight. I can dredge up literally hundreds of examples (if I had the time to go through the Essentials) of him not actually wanting to kill humans, just make them leave him alone.
How does she ever expect to calm him down if she's constantly running away from his thunderclaps? Oh yeah, she flies at multiple times the speed of sound but that doesn't mean she begins her fight at that speed. She needs to accelerate up to it.
Originally posted by scotsmn
King, Hulk's thunderclap does damage in all directions when it's above his head. Call it what you want, sound... waves... whatever it is, it does damage.Hulk almost NEVER wants to kill humans. If he wanted them dead do you think they would be getting back up? He always says they are too weak to fight. I can dredge up literally hundreds of examples (if I had the time to go through the Essentials) of him not actually wanting to kill humans, just make them leave him alone.
How does she ever expect to calm him down if she's constantly running away from his thunderclaps? Oh yeah, she flies at multiple times the speed of sound but that doesn't mean she begins her fight at that speed. She needs to accelerate up to it.
It won't do the same damage to someone who is built to take "winds like a hurricane" and take can the sound as well, because even at mach 10 the sonic boom would be insane. This is a calm Hulk who does not have the same power as an enraged Hulk. As I have said in like my very first post, "Would it hurt? sure, but she can still keep going". Of course the thunderclap would hurt I'm not even saying it won't, but she can avoid it and with her abilities can fend off a much weaker Hulk attack a Hulk she can make more docile.
Fanfare #29, he was just about to kill a Indian for no reason until his voice calmed him. When he gets in a feral rage he doesn't care anymore. I have various comics where he became to enraged he just didn't care who he hurt
Yeah while she is flying around she can still shine the light on him. Besides him clapping like a monkey with a tamborine is not practicle or something Hulk normally does. He would clap, see if she is knocked out she appears keeps hitting him and keep repeating the process. She can appear in a split second. Not really, Northstar ran from Montral to New York State in a second, and Aurora can pull a flash move, while people are in mid sentence she well here...
Like really if Aurora is shining the light on him right from the start, there is no reason for the Hulk to freak out. If he does a drop of a dime she can pour her speed on.
Hate to kill a good argument, but a thunderclap, no matter how powerful, is limited by the speed of sound. Mach 1. Aurora regularly flies at Mach 10, and can push herself faster. The thunderclap won't touch her, and neither will Hulk. Constant molecular displacement on vital organs and limbs. Hulk can't catch her without arms...
Originally posted by King_Mungi
It won't do the same damage to someone who is built to take "winds like a hurricane" and take can the sound as well, because even at mach 10 the sonic boom would be insane. This is a calm Hulk who does not have the same power as an enraged Hulk. As I have said in like my very first post, "Would it hurt? sure, but she can still keep going". Of course the thunderclap would hurt I'm not even saying it won't, but she can avoid it and with her abilities can fend off a much weaker Hulk attack a Hulk she can make more docile.Fanfare #29, he was just about to kill a Indian for no reason until his voice calmed him. When he gets in a feral rage he doesn't care anymore. I have various comics where he became to enraged he just didn't care who he hurt
Yeah while she is flying around she can still shine the light on him. Besides him clapping like a monkey with a tamborine is not practicle or something Hulk normally does. He would clap, see if she is knocked out she appears keeps hitting him and keep repeating the process. She can appear in a split second. Not really, Northstar ran from Montral to New York State in a second, and Aurora can pull a flash move, while people are in mid sentence she well here...
Like really if Aurora is shining the light on him right from the start, there is no reason for the Hulk to freak out. If he does a drop of a dime she can pour her speed on.
She can withstand winds like a hurricane. That statement is kinda left to interpretation. Not all hurricanes are created equal. Hulk's thunderclap is more powerful than a hurricane at proximity. It also has massive sound waves to rattle your ear drums. Let's say she can take it.. she'll still be stunned by it, which gives Hulk time to get angry again.
You say she can withstand sonic booms. There's nothing to withstand. The person/object causing the sonic boom doesn't hear it because the sound of the boom can't catch up to the person/object since... they are not traveling FASTER than sound. Get it? Also, you don't create a sonic boom each time you hit a new mach. You only create the boom when you pass Mach 1 or slow down and go slower than Mach 1.
Hulk does all kinds of crazy stuff when he notices an opponent doing something sneaky. One of his favorites is to grab before his feet and pick a huge chunk of it up and throw it at his opponent. That kinda distraction would also cause the light to temporarily cease.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Hate to kill a good argument, but a thunderclap, no matter how powerful, is limited by the speed of sound. Mach 1. Aurora regularly flies at Mach 10, and can push herself faster. The thunderclap won't touch her, and neither will Hulk. Constant molecular displacement on vital organs and limbs. Hulk can't catch her without arms...
Molecular displacement vs Healing factor... i'd say they wash out.
Your arguments are predicated on the belif that Aurora can
1. Calm the Hulk down in the middle of him fighting her
2. Use her powers to cause massive molecular damage.
The Hulk has already shown a strong resistence to mind altering affects even pleasent ones. You are assuming Savage Hulk will be more susceptible but there really is no reason to. Also Johny storm was able to shake off her powers and he isn't even particularly angry.
The Hulk has already shown a resitence to molecular tampering. you say that Aurora's power is different so it will work, but you have explained how it is diffrent and why when the Hulk has resited several different forms of molecular attacks this one will work.
In order for the facts you are basing your argument on to work you have to ignore a lot of evidence and make some rather large assumptions.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Hate to kill a good argument, but a thunderclap, no matter how powerful, is limited by the speed of sound. Mach 1. Aurora regularly flies at Mach 10, and can push herself faster. The thunderclap won't touch her, and neither will Hulk. Constant molecular displacement on vital organs and limbs. Hulk can't catch her without arms...
Aurora doesn't have any long range options that can take down the Hulk (she doesn't seem to have any short range options either) so she is going to do the most damage in close. She would have to spend some time in close proximity to the Hulk in order to do enough damage to put him down. If she just does fly bys he will just heal up the damage as fast as she can dish it out. This mean sthat she is subjecting hersefl to the Hulk's super fast reflexs. So if she hits him can she turn around and fly off fast enough to avoid the Hulk's retaliation? Unlike her all he needs is one half-decent shot to put her down. Then He can finish her off.
I know she can fly at Mach 10 but can she fight at that speed?
Originally posted by Dizzle
Hate to kill a good argument, but a thunderclap, no matter how powerful, is limited by the speed of sound. Mach 1. Aurora regularly flies at Mach 10, and can push herself faster. The thunderclap won't touch her, and neither will Hulk. Constant molecular displacement on vital organs and limbs. Hulk can't catch her without arms...
I stated that multiple times, but I get no respect 😄 ....wait.....that's bad
Originally posted by scotsmn
She can withstand winds like a hurricane. That statement is kinda left to interpretation. Not all hurricanes are created equal. Hulk's thunderclap is more powerful than a hurricane at proximity. It also has massive sound waves to rattle your ear drums. Let's say she can take it.. she'll still be stunned by it, which gives Hulk time to get angry again.You say she can withstand sonic booms. There's nothing to withstand. The person/object causing the sonic boom doesn't hear it because the sound of the boom can't catch up to the person/object since... they are not traveling FASTER than sound. Get it? Also, you don't create a sonic boom each time you hit a new mach. You only create the boom when you pass Mach 1 or slow down and go slower than Mach 1.
Hulk does all kinds of crazy stuff when he notices an opponent doing something sneaky. One of his favorites is to grab before his feet and pick a huge chunk of it up and throw it at his opponent. That kinda distraction would also cause the light to temporarily cease.
Problem with that is when the light is on your brain is like on drugs, your in la-la land. Also with her being so fast so can quickly dodge it and then attack from another angle and repeat the proces.
No, Northstar and Aurora travel side by side. Often times it Northstar who travel behind Aurora to keep an eye on her. The sheer friction from the wind blowing past your eye aids a tremendous amount of stress and pressure. Did I say otherwise? no, but the sheer wind resistance and velocity is greather than going mach 1 than say mach 10. Which she and her brother can cruise at.
A angry Hulk I would definetly a Hulk just starting a fight or a calmed Hulk from her light will not have the same power. The problem is hitting a person who can go faster than the speed of sound. Like I said if she does get hit, she will be hurt but still be able to continue.
Originally posted by Warmonger
Your arguments are predicated on the belif that Aurora can1. Calm the Hulk down in the middle of him fighting her
2. Use her powers to cause massive molecular damage.
The Hulk has already shown a strong resistence to mind altering affects even pleasent ones. You are assuming Savage Hulk will be more susceptible but there really is no reason to. Also Johny storm was able to shake off her powers and he isn't even particularly angry.
The Hulk has already shown a resitence to molecular tampering. you say that Aurora's power is different so it will work, but you have explained how it is diffrent and why when the Hulk has resited several different forms of molecular attacks this one will work.
No, it's not tampering and all the times they have done those attacks on him was him being fueled with rage. Basically she can cause massive internal damage by tearing apart the molecules, not shrink someone down to size.
In order for the facts you are basing your argument on to work you have to ignore a lot of evidence and make some rather large assumptions.
1. Come on, how many times have I said it. Since she knows her powers would weaken him this would be her first attack. Not speedblitzing him. With her calming him right from the start that puts him a disadvantage
2. Which she can do with her speed, but I'm going closer to a stalemate than anything. However, advantages are in Aurora's favor.
Most of the times people have done that is when he was already enraged and this isn't supply the images it's whatever it makes him at peace. Since Torch say things differently. He shook it off, since she let her guard down since he was falling right into her and he did. Once again Hulk does not start off in a blood frenzy
How am I ignoring things? when Aurora is faster than the speed of sound so she can avoid the thunderclap and I also showed her light powers so strong it even convinved Johnny to turn of his powers and if she wasn't in the way and let her guard down he could have fallen to his death. Most of you guys are debating things I'm not even debating.
Originally posted by Warmonger
Aurora doesn't have any long range options that can take down the Hulk (she doesn't seem to have any short range options either) so she is going to do the most damage in close. She would have to spend some time in close proximity to the Hulk in order to do enough damage to put him down. If she just does fly bys he will just heal up the damage as fast as she can dish it out. This mean sthat she is subjecting hersefl to the Hulk's super fast reflexs. So if she hits him can she turn around and fly off fast enough to avoid the Hulk's retaliation? Unlike her all he needs is one half-decent shot to put her down. Then He can finish her off.I know she can fly at Mach 10 but can she fight at that speed?
Her reflexes are faster, plus she can use lightening, a flashbang to blind him, hypnotize people [did it to Thunderball], concussion blasts, and a calming light. Why are you underestimating her. This is not a clear victory for the Hulk.
Yes, but does she have to? no. Even going mach 2 will be fast enough. Also she can accelerate just parts of her body not just her whole body. That's why she can overpower stronger oppoents
Your not debating things because you have taken them as facts when they are just assumptions.
You don't know if Aurora's calming light will work on the Hulk.
You don't know if her molecular disrutpion powers will work either.
You are assuming her powers will work on the Hulk even though there isample evidence to refute this.
Originally posted by Warmonger
Your not debating things because you have taken them as facts when they are just assumptions.You don't know if Aurora's calming light will work on the Hulk.
You don't know if her molecular disrutpion powers will work either.
You are assuming her powers will work on the Hulk even though there isample evidence to refute this.
It's very likely they will, I'm done my exams so I will post other feats with Aurora's light
No I don't know for sure, but your all assuming Hulk SMASH! she has to much power and variety to be taken out that easily
How so? showing scans that don't relate to my point? Posting scans of enraged Hulk when Aurora even starts of the fight with a fairly calm Hulk and with her powers it;s very likely she can further calm him.