If you read my original post in the thread I said: stalemate. As long as she stays out of Hulk's reach she will be fine cause he won't be able to catch her but she doesn't have anything to take him down.
Also hte Hulk isn't infuriated but he would at least need to be angry at the begining other wise he wouldn't attack her. KMC rules say that unless specified the Hulk at the very least knows that Aurora is his enemy. So while he won't be hopping mad he will be angry.
Originally posted by Warmonger
If you read my original post in the thread I said: stalemate. As long as she stays out of Hulk's reach she will be fine cause he won't be able to catch her but she doesn't have anything to take him down.Also hte Hulk isn't infuriated but he would at least need to be angry at the begining other wise he wouldn't attack her. KMC rules say that unless specified the Hulk at the very least knows that Aurora is his enemy. So while he won't be hopping mad he will be angry.
My mistake, I need to be more clearer. That part wasn't directed to you, but to those who say he can just do a thunderclap and it be over in a second. As i said I was going with a stalemate [last couple pages], but advantages are in her favor that could possibly work to take him down.
Of course, he wouldn't be the Hulk if he wasn't annoyed or angry in the first place. He just won't be the beast that was depicted in most of the above scans.
I'm in a much better mode with my exams done, and I was almost screwed since I missed one on tuesday I didn't know about. Thank god my teacher liked me and allowed me to write it today.
Well I just think that the Hulk's advantages are much more concrete.
We know that a solid hit from the Hulk will knock her out if not more.
We know that the hulk regenerates damage at a rate even faster than Wolverine's
We know that the Hulk is extremely quick for his size.
We know he can keep going for as long as it takes to win.
We know that the Hulk's unique psyche allows him to shake off most forms of coercion.
We've also seen evidence to indicate that the Hulk's molecular structure is rather hard to tamper with.
We don't know that Aurora can calm the Hulk down.
We don't know if her molecular power work on Hulk.
We don't even know if Aurora CAN put down a completely calm Hulk.
That is how I see the argument.
Originally posted by Warmonger
We know that a solid hit from the Hulk will knock her out if not more.We know that the hulk regenerates damage at a rate even faster than Wolverine's
We know that the Hulk is extremely quick for his size.
We know he can keep going for as long as it takes to win.
We know that the Hulk's unique psyche allows him to shake off most forms of coercion.
We've also seen evidence to indicate that the Hulk's molecular structure is rather hard to tamper with.
We don't know that Aurora can calm the Hulk down.
We don't know if her molecular power work on Hulk.
We don't even know if Aurora CAN put down a completely calm Hulk.
Problem is he isn't going to hit her
Depending on his rage levels, but yes he does
I believe clocks at 500 mph, but she still makes him look like a snail
As can she
Her attacks are not most forms of coercion
Once again she doesn't tamper she tears apart the molcules and can do massive internal injury. Not for example make someone small.
It's very likely she can, those scans were of Aurora just basically getting her new light powers
Oh it will work, but will it be enough to put him down
That's the debate
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The only thing concrete is his strength and durability, which waver depening on mood.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Problem is he isn't going to hit herDepending on his rage levels, but yes he does
I believe clocks at 500 mph, but she still makes him look like a snail
As can she
Her attacks are not most forms of coercion
Once again she doesn't tamper she tears apart the molcules and can do massive internal injury. Not for example make someone small.
It's very likely she can, those scans were of Aurora just basically getting her new light powers
Oh it will work, but will it be enough to put him down
That's the debate
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The only thing concrete is his strength and durability, which waver depening on mood.
Unless she stays in his reach. Who is to say how long she can evade him if is close enough to touch him.
I'm not even talking about his running speed so much as his reaction speed. I belive he managed to smash Wonderman's face in, cause he actulaly moves really fast.
Actually Hulk can go for a very long time without food or water or rest weeks at least. How long can Aurora go?
So it is like a disintigration beam then? Cause the pics scotsm posted already showed he can shrug off the effects of those.
Also look at the scan you posted of Aurora and Johnny. It is a form of hypnotism which the Hulk is reistant to.
The Hulk has resited similar powers before so it is not assured to work or even do enough damage.
You have to make alot of allowances for Aurora to win. The Hulk cna win with what he has.
Originally posted by Warmonger
Unless she stays in his reach. Who is to say how long she can evade him if is close enough to touch him.I'm not even talking about his running speed so much as his reaction speed. I belive he managed to smash Wonderman's face in, cause he actulaly moves really fast.
Actually Hulk can go for a very long time without food or water or rest weeks at least. How long can Aurora go?
So it is like a disintigration beam then? Cause the pics scotsm posted already showed he can shrug off the effects of those.
Also look at the scan you posted of Aurora and Johnny. It is a form of hypnotism which the Hulk is reistant to.
The Hulk has resited similar powers before so it is not assured to work or even do enough damage.
You have to make alot of allowances for Aurora to win. The Hulk cna win with what he has.
Her reaction time is super-human, she has to be able to flying at mach speeds not smacking into things.
Oh he is fast, but she is faster. I don't know how good Wonderman reflexes are though.
Days, but she can fly off for abit to catch her breath and then get right back in it. Endurance he wins, but she has ways to "catch her breath"
No I don't think it is, basically it's like a knife slicing up your inards tearing apart the molecules. Once again that was enraged Hulk, he does not have that strong of a resistance or overall strength is his starting off phase.
It's different, since the user sees whatever they want, whatever makes them at peace. With her using her light right away there is no excuse for him to freak out, when others tried it he was already freaking out. Also I have seen scans of even Hulk being affected by mind control [Post shortly]
I'll post some scans later of Aurora's other feats, and other things that have calmed the Hulk
It's almost impossible for him to even hit her, and his range attacks she can easily avoid. How can he win? unless it's CIS.
So then it is just a glorified molecular attack, then it does have to deal with Hulk's durability. You can't have it both ways.
Problem is that if she flys off to catch her breath Hulk heals up any damage she MIGHT have done.
Yes midn control has worked on the Hulk the problem is that he has almost always shaken it off. And this kind of compulsion doesn't seem strong enough to Hold the Hulk, it cna't even hold the HUman Torch.
Maybe you shouldask how can she win? She can't do enough damage in a short enough time to K.O the Hulk. You don't know that either one of her powers will work on him, or even if they can put him down.
It is why I said Stalemate, she can stay out of his range indefinetly (or at least until she becomes fatigued), but if she tries to close in with the Hulk he is fast enough to catch her sooner or later. The problem is that the Hulk cna fight pretty much forever.
Also you are assuming that she cna do enough damage to a completely calm Hulk to take him out. Even completely calm the Hulk has tremendous durability.
You have to have some pics of this ability in action doing what you say it can do. The only thing I've seen it do is make that minotaur guy crash into a wall definetly not going to stop the Hulk.
Originally posted by Warmonger
So then it is just a glorified molecular attack, then it does have to deal with Hulk's durability. You can't have it both ways.Problem is that if she flys off to catch her breath Hulk heals up any damage she MIGHT have done.
Yes midn control has worked on the Hulk the problem is that he has almost always shaken it off. And this kind of compulsion doesn't seem strong enough to Hold the Hulk, it cna't even hold the HUman Torch.
Maybe you shouldask how can she win? She can't do enough damage in a short enough time to K.O the Hulk. You don't know that either one of her powers will work on him, or even if they can put him down.
It is why I said Stalemate, she can stay out of his range indefinetly (or at least until she becomes fatigued), but if she tries to close in with the Hulk he is fast enough to catch her sooner or later. The problem is that the Hulk cna fight pretty much forever.
Also you are assuming that she cna do enough damage to a completely calm Hulk to take him out. Even completely calm the Hulk has tremendous durability.
You have to have some pics of this ability in action doing what you say it can do. The only thing I've seen it do is make that minotaur guy crash into a wall definetly not going to stop the Hulk.
How many times have I stated this? a calm Hulk is not the strongest Hulk and does not have the same healing factor or durability as one who is completly fueled with rage. The same rage to which most of those scans are.
That's fine, the point was she can recharged herself and then continue later.
He has shaken it off when it's hostile, but this isn't mind control it's a soothing light that can calm people. Even if it doesn't revert him back to Banner, Hulk will still be weaker from the outcome. Even Mimic with half the speed of Northstar and half of Colossus's durability took out Hyperion. How many times have I said this? she let her guard down after she was falling right into her. She even after purging herself from Headlok pushes Johnny away like nothing. Also this is a Aurora who was just learning her new powers
You don't know that, we don't know how well her light can weaken him enough and the amount of damage she can do with her speed up attacks. Your assuming they wouldn't yet Hulk himself has been taken down by less.
GAH! That's what I said, most of the debate it people underestimating her giving Hulk the easy win . No he isn't fast enough to catch her, not in the least bit her speed and reflexes embarass him. Hell, Puck was even giving Hulk a hard time. Your acting like the Hulk has never lost a battle
He has strong durabiity, but these are not force attacks they are compelty different. It doesn't matter how thick your skin is if you can still speed up the molecules it won't matter how dense or tightly packed they are.
Her speed up ability is new [well fairly], she just used in it in the Weapon X series and she hasn't appeared in another series afterwards. I will see if she has any more speed up feats. No of course not, by a multiple attack speeding of vital organs can do serious damage.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
How many times have I stated this? a calm Hulk is not the strongest Hulk and does not have the same healing factor or durability as one who is completly fueled with rage. The same rage to which most of those scans are.That's fine, the point was she can recharged herself and then continue later.
He has shaken it off when it's hostile, but this isn't mind control it's a soothing light that can calm people. Even if it doesn't revert him back to Banner, Hulk will still be weaker from the outcome. Even Mimic with half the speed of Northstar and half of Colossus's durability took out Hyperion. How many times have I said this? she let her guard down after she was falling right into her. She even after purging herself from Headlok pushes Johnny away like nothing. Also this is a Aurora who was just learning her new powers
You don't know that, we don't know how well her light can weaken him enough and the amount of damage she can do with her speed up attacks. Your assuming they wouldn't yet Hulk himself has been taken down by less.
GAH! That's what I said, most of the debate it people underestimating her giving Hulk the easy win . No he isn't fast enough to catch her, not in the least bit her speed and reflexes embarass him. Hell, Puck was even giving Hulk a hard time. Your acting like the Hulk has never lost a battle
He has strong durabiity, but these are not force attacks they are compelty different. It doesn't matter how thick your skin is if you can still speed up the molecules it won't matter how dense or tightly packed they are.
Her speed up ability is new [well fairly], she just used in it in the Weapon X series and she hasn't appeared in another series afterwards. I will see if she has any more speed up feats. No of course not, by a multiple attack speeding of vital organs can do serious damage.
How do you know that even a completley calm Hulk can't withstand her attacks?
How long can she go with out food or sleep Hulk can do it for weeks at least. Who says it will sooth him? He is angry maybe not super angry but angry at least otherwise he wouldn't be fighting. Also she isn't mimic if she tried that she would be dead and HUlk would regenerate the damage just like Hyperion did.
Look at your own scan. Johhny was falling from the sky then as he approaches her he syas try a tast of your own medicne at what point did she let her guard down? After Johhny already broke free of her hypnotism?
We don't know that we don't know if it owuld be enough to take the Hulk down. You are assuing it would. The only things I've seen take down the Hulk are people are stronger/ hyper powerful energy projection.
I'm not underestimating her you are overestimating her. What has she done that shows she can take down the Hulk? You haven't shown me anything theHulk couldn't/ hasn't already stood up to.
Then if she is speeding up his molecules then that is molecular manipulation, which the Hulk is reistant to.
You are going to have to post some example of her suign herpowers in the way you are describing cause the one picture of it you posted deosn't show anything in that way.
Originally posted by Warmonger
How do you know that even a completley calm Hulk can't withstand her attacks?How long can she go with out food or sleep Hulk can do it for weeks at least. Who says it will sooth him? He is angry maybe not super angry but angry at least otherwise he wouldn't be fighting. Also she isn't mimic if she tried that she would be dead and HUlk would regenerate the damage just like Hyperion did.
Look at your own scan. Johhny was falling from the sky then as he approaches her he syas try a tast of your own medicne at what point did she let her guard down? After Johhny already broke free of her hypnotism?
We don't know that we don't know if it owuld be enough to take the Hulk down. You are assuing it would. The only things I've seen take down the Hulk are people are stronger/ hyper powerful energy projection.
I'm not underestimating her you are overestimating her. What has she done that shows she can take down the Hulk? You haven't shown me anything theHulk couldn't/ hasn't already stood up to.
Then if she is speeding up his molecules then that is molecular manipulation, which the Hulk is reistant to.
You are going to have to post some example of her suign herpowers in the way you are describing cause the one picture of it you posted deosn't show anything in that way.
I don't, but he would take serious damage. How do you know he can't?
First off, if Hulk is not constantly fighting her he will calm himself down. Also what's stopping her from getting food and sleep, she can zoom off and get rest find him again and both fight once again at full power. Your right she isn't Mimic, she's faster than him. Hell Northstar collided into a normal person at mach three and he was fine and the other person exploded. He also used his speed to bust right through sentinel armour, their bodies are durable.
Look at the scans again, notice when Johnny gets hit she lifts her arms up and hits him with the light as he is falling down she isn't shooting the light at him again and her arms are to the side. She let her guard down as he was falling, since he collided right into her. Which she should have just dodged, but hey AF are not written to what they can do.
Man seriously, how many times have I stated I don't know for sure? Your assuming it wouldn't and I'm assuming there's a strong possibility. She isn't going to be using progections, only the light will calm him and who knows if her light can hypnotize him and her speed up powers are what would do the most damage.
First off there is no way he is going to touch her, plus I posted scans where her light powers have calmed people and her speed up things can hurt him since even a speed blitz from her brother has Hurt a fully pissed off Hulk. Do I know for sure she will win? no. If I did why would I even make this thread.
No it's not, molecular manipulation is changing the molecular structure into something that is not it's orginal form. Anything can be speed up, just added heat to things speeds up the molecules and cold slows down the molecules. She can just do it to a higher degree. That's not molecular manipulation.
Yeah I'll try [need to go through the Weapon X collection], in her bio I posted in the first page is a description of her powers
Originally posted by King_Mungi
I don't, but he would take serious damage. How do you know he can't?First off, if Hulk is not constantly fighting her he will calm himself down. Also what's stopping her from getting food and sleep, she can zoom off and get rest find him again and both fight once again at full power. Your right she isn't Mimic, she's faster than him. Hell Northstar collided into a normal person at mach three and he was fine and the other person exploded. He also used his speed to bust right through sentinel armour, their bodies are durable.
Look at the scans again, notice when Johnny gets hit she lifts her arms up and hits him with the light as he is falling down she isn't shooting the light at him again and her arms are to the side. She let her guard down as he was falling, since he collided right into her. Which she should have just dodged, but hey AF are not written to what they can do.
Man seriously, how many times have I stated I don't know for sure? Your assuming it wouldn't and I'm assuming there's a strong possibility. She isn't going to be using progections, only the light will calm him and who knows if her light can hypnotize him and her speed up powers are what would do the most damage.
First off there is no way he is going to touch her, plus I posted scans where her light powers have calmed people and her speed up things can hurt him since even a speed blitz from her brother has Hurt a fully pissed off Hulk. Do I know for sure she will win? no. If I did why would I even make this thread.
No it's not, molecular manipulation is changing the molecular structure into something that is not it's orginal form. Anything can be speed up, just added heat to things speeds up the molecules and cold slows down the molecules. She can just do it to a higher degree. That's not molecular manipulation.
Yeah I'll try [need to go through the Weapon X collection], in her bio I posted in the first page is a description of her powers
The point is that we have seen that the Hulk can take tremendous punishment. There fore the burden of proof is on you to show that she cna dish out more damage than Hulk can take. You havn't done this.
So ti is on earth? Cause you didn't stipulate so I assumed that the fight is on a featurelss planet therefore removing the possibility of prep or for interfrence. Coliding into a regular person at Mach 3 i one thing collidgin into the Hulkis another. It is not her speed but her durability that prevents her from succeding at the same attack. Also from what I've seen Hulk is much tougher than a sentinal.
Er looks like the only reason Johhny bothered to Flame off was just to touch her. It is not like he said "oh I've landed on someone I'm free!" As soon ashe got close he says "why don't you try some of this light" then he flames back up after she throws him off.
Once again we know that the Hulk has alot of durability. There fore you have to show where Aurora can do damage in that league. If she hasn't then the possibility that Hulk can withstand her attacks is tronger because there is repeated isntances of Hulk surviving super powerful attacks where there isn't any showing Aurora dealing out damage of that calibur.
There is no way he is going to touch her as long as she stays out of his reach. If she gets close enough long enough then the possiblity of him making contact goes up dramatically. The Hulk is pretty quick. Also the scan doesn't prove much since it is just a scan of him hitting and hurting the Hulk. We don't know how angry the Hulk was, and we don't know how injured he was but he wasn't even bleeding so for all we know it could be like a bee sting.
Molecular manipulation is manipulating molecules. Speeding up molecules is manipulating them, just like rearanging them into something else, or stripping them awya like a disintigration attack.
Originally posted by Warmonger
The point is that we have seen that the Hulk can take tremendous punishment. There fore the burden of proof is on you to show that she cna dish out more damage than Hulk can take. You havn't done this.So ti is on earth? Cause you didn't stipulate so I assumed that the fight is on a featurelss planet therefore removing the possibility of prep or for interfrence. Coliding into a regular person at Mach 3 i one thing collidgin into the Hulkis another. It is not her speed but her durability that prevents her from succeding at the same attack. Also from what I've seen Hulk is much tougher than a sentinal.
Er looks like the only reason Johhny bothered to Flame off was just to touch her. It is not like he said "oh I've landed on someone I'm free!" As soon ashe got close he says "why don't you try some of this light" then he flames back up after she throws him off.
Once again we know that the Hulk has alot of durability. There fore you have to show where Aurora can do damage in that league. If she hasn't then the possibility that Hulk can withstand her attacks is tronger because there is repeated isntances of Hulk surviving super powerful attacks where there isn't any showing Aurora dealing out damage of that calibur.
There is no way he is going to touch her as long as she stays out of his reach. If she gets close enough long enough then the possiblity of him making contact goes up dramatically. The Hulk is pretty quick. Also the scan doesn't prove much since it is just a scan of him hitting and hurting the Hulk. We don't know how angry the Hulk was, and we don't know how injured he was but he wasn't even bleeding so for all we know it could be like a bee sting.
Molecular manipulation is manipulating molecules. Speeding up molecules is manipulating them, just like rearanging them into something else, or stripping them awya like a disintigration attack.
Good lord, yes he can take the punishment but in a feral rage. He does not have that durability when he firsr starts off. Why would I want to proof that she would win since the past several pages I said stalemate. It's not like your even reading my posts.
It's on Earth and no interferance. My examples are to show that even if they do collide into things at mach speeds they are fine showing their durability and they can fly mach speeds with a punch or a kick or something. She is not completly useless and no I'm not overestimating them, this is what they have been shown to do. Of course he is, but your missing the point.
No! read the scans. "I can flame off relax a little. Just fall..share the warmth...*ughnn*---what---the---falling---heads feels like it's on novacaine". How does that prove he was playing possum, since he finally clued in with the *ughnn* part and says, "what-- the--falling" like he had no clue what was happening. Your being foolish now. After she shines the light on herself she tosses him away. Even if Hulk does fight it, it took no time for her to deflame him and that would weaken the Hulk and she can keep doing this, since while she is in the air he isn't going to touch her
*sigh* Hulk has shown high feats the more rage he gets. He does not have these feats when he first starts a fight. Listen to me, I have stated stalemate, why would I prove Aurora would win when that goes against what I said? For someone who also said would be a stalemate you really are not showing it.
Not really if written to what she can do her reflexes are faster than his, heck Aurora and Northstar have dealt with a brute like the Hulk before [Sasquatch]. GAH! I posted the pic not to show that she would win with this, but she can hurt him. I have the issue and he was pissed, he was destroying the entire city and was battling Alpha Flight. He was furious since he just escaped from a dimension and Walter almost took over his body, but sacrificed himself. He then appeared in AF headquarters and instantly punched Box and him and Puck battled it out for quite awhile. I highly doubt it was a bee sting, due to Northstar has done this to Sasquatch and it has hurt him as well.
No it's not, it's kinetic energy. I can heat up a object and make the molecules speed up, but once it cools it is retains it's orgininal shape. Manipulation is altering the strucute, she doesn't do that all she does it speed up the already existing molecules and doesn't add or take away any.
Problem here is even calm Hulk is greater than Aurora. He can heal the damage she causes. He can outlast her easily. He can knock her out physically.
What can she do? If she tries to get close, thunderclap either messes her up or scares her off. She can maybe run away but it just means Hulk is gonna be at 100% everytime she comes back. She WILL tire before him. If she flies off to go to eat and go to sleep that means she abandoned the battlefield aka forfeited the fight. If she chooses to stay and not abandon the fight she is going to get SLOWER and SLOWER through fatigue. Hulk will not. He will catch her slipping and KO her.
By the way, Hulk can pick a rock up and throw it at her incredibly fast so that she can't dodge it.
Originally posted by scotsmn
Problem here is even calm Hulk is greater than Aurora. He can heal the damage she causes. He can outlast her easily. He can knock her out physically.What can she do? If she tries to get close, thunderclap either messes her up or scares her off. She can maybe run away but it just means Hulk is gonna be at 100% everytime she comes back. She WILL tire before him. If she flies off to go to eat and go to sleep that means she abandoned the battlefield aka forfeited the fight. If she chooses to stay and not abandon the fight she is going to get SLOWER and SLOWER through fatigue. Hulk will not. He will catch her slipping and KO her.
By the way, Hulk can pick a rock up and throw it at her incredibly fast so that she can't dodge it.
Not necesairly we don't know much she can weaken him with the light or the amount of damage she can do to him. Once again written correctly he is not going to touch her. We don't know the amount of damage she is capable of such as hitting him a hundred times in one second with the speed up attack tearing apart his molecules.
Hence, why if she leaves it's a stalemate.....which I have said. If she moves out of the way of the thundeclap in a split second she can reappear and keep attacking. It's not like it takes her minutes to get back. I'm not even debating Aurora wins, I'm debating your underestimating her. For all we know she can keep hitting him with the light since it's not hostile and completly revert him back to Banner. No, if you read Alpha FLight you would know she has incredible endurance, even more than her brother. No he isn't
Been done before with Sasquatch and Hulk tried the same thing, nada.
Originally posted by scotsmn
Problem here is even calm Hulk is greater than Aurora. He can heal the damage she causes. He can outlast her easily. He can knock her out physically.What can she do? If she tries to get close, thunderclap either messes her up or scares her off. She can maybe run away but it just means Hulk is gonna be at 100% everytime she comes back. She WILL tire before him. If she flies off to go to eat and go to sleep that means she abandoned the battlefield aka forfeited the fight. If she chooses to stay and not abandon the fight she is going to get SLOWER and SLOWER through fatigue. Hulk will not. He will catch her slipping and KO her.
By the way, Hulk can pick a rock up and throw it at her incredibly fast so that she can't dodge it.
Can he touch her? Not a chance.
If she gets close, she punches him a couple hundred thousand times. He thunderclaps, she flies/dodges it, then comes back and hits him another hundred thousand times... The flies away and comes back takes what, a thousandth of a second? It's the speed of freaking sound. She stays away from it to the point where it won't be effective, then immediately zips back and continues beating on him. Aurora can go for quite a long time before tiring. How many millions of shots before Hulk gets put down?
Hulk picks up rock. Hulk goes into throwing motion. Halfway through the motion, Aurora zips behind him and molecule punches (for lack of a better term) the side of his stomach for a second or two. Moving her arms at a bit over mach 10, she can hit him literally hundreds of times. Hulk gon' die. He's way the heck too one dimensional.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not necesairly we don't know much she can weaken him with the light or the amount of damage she can do to him. Once again written correctly he is not going to touch her. We don't know the amount of damage she is capable of such as hitting him a hundred times in one second with the speed up attack tearing apart his molecules.Hence, why if she leaves it's a stalemate.....which I have said. If she moves out of the way of the thundeclap in a split second she can reappear and keep attacking. It's not like it takes her minutes to get back. I'm not even debating Aurora wins, I'm debating your underestimating her. For all we know she can keep hitting him with the light since it's not hostile and completly revert him back to Banner. No, if you read Alpha FLight you would know she has incredible endurance, even more than her brother. No he isn't
Been done before with Sasquatch and Hulk tried the same thing, nada.
Why do you think Hulk will revert to banner? There is such a thing as a calm Savage Hulk you realize...
I just realized something by the way. The soundwave of Hulk's thunderclap is limited to Mach 1. The massive winds and debris that do the damage... are not. Thunderclap owns her.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Can he touch her? Not a chance.If she gets close, she punches him a couple hundred thousand times. He thunderclaps, she flies/dodges it, then comes back and hits him another hundred thousand times... The flies away and comes back takes what, a thousandth of a second? It's the speed of freaking sound. She stays away from it to the point where it won't be effective, then immediately zips back and continues beating on him. Aurora can go for quite a long time before tiring. How many millions of shots before Hulk gets put down?
Hulk picks up rock. Hulk goes into throwing motion. Halfway through the motion, Aurora zips behind him and molecule punches (for lack of a better term) the side of his stomach for a second or two. Moving her arms at a bit over mach 10, she can hit him literally hundreds of times. Hulk gon' die. He's way the heck too one dimensional.
She aint the Flash buddy I ain't never seen her punch noboyd a couple hundred thousand times. The Flashs live at those speeds she merely moves at them. The Flash has done things like read a book and buiidl a brdige in the time it takes to fro the bridge to fall. That is the kind of speed necceasry to do what you are saying.
Your over blowing her speed as a factor. IT is massive when it comes to traveling speed but how quickly cna she change directions at that speed?
You don't know.
How many times can she hit him in the space?
You don't know
When has she ever done what you are saying she can do?
Originally posted by scotsmn
Why do you think Hulk will revert to banner? There is such a thing as a calm Savage Hulk you realize...I just realized something by the way. The soundwave of Hulk's thunderclap is limited to Mach 1. The massive winds and debris that do the damage... are not. Thunderclap owns her.
Ah yes, debris moves faster than mach 10, yet there are never smaller sonic booms after the actual clap. You forget that Aurora can get a very large headstart, because it's not exactly a subtle attack. Hulk winds up fo it. Halfway into the windup, Aurora is a mile or two away. The clap goes, and she is back within a second.
Also... are you actually gonna prove that the wind and debris does indeed move faster than mach 1? The fact that stones and other such objects that are kicked up do not create a sonic boom of their own is pretty good evidence against this...
Aurora punches him a couple million times, Hulk dies.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Ah yes, debris moves faster than mach 10, yet there are never smaller sonic booms after the actual clap. You forget that Aurora can get a very large headstart, because it's not exactly a subtle attack. Hulk winds up fo it. Halfway into the windup, Aurora is a mile or two away. The clap goes, and she is back within a second.Also... are you actually gonna prove that the wind and debris does indeed move faster than mach 1? The fact that stones and other such objects that are kicked up do not create a sonic boom of their own is pretty good evidence against this...
Aurora punches him a couple million times, Hulk dies.
Why wouldn't the debris move faster than mach 10? .... you act as if that's light speed. What makes you say there are not smaller sonic booms afterwards? Do you hear a sonic boom when a handgun is fired? No? Didn't think so. Doesn't mean the bullet didn't cross the speed of sound.
You claim Aurora will fly away from the thunderclap (which she can't since the speed of the winds coming out of his hands are said to carry the power of a small nuclear explosion) and that she'll be back within a second... uhh, think about that. Isn't there something still coming her way within that second? Yeah, the wave of air, rocks, force.. all that crap that she just outran.
Originally posted by scotsmn
Why wouldn't the debris move faster than mach 10? .... you act as if that's light speed. What makes you say there are not smaller sonic booms afterwards? Do you hear a sonic boom when a handgun is fired? No? Didn't think so. Doesn't mean the bullet didn't cross the speed of sound.You claim Aurora will fly away from the thunderclap (which she can't since the speed of the winds coming out of his hands are said to carry the power of a small nuclear explosion) and that she'll be back within a second... uhh, think about that. Isn't there something still coming her way within that second? Yeah, the wave of air, rocks, force.. all that crap that she just outran.
Stop! debris is not going to move mach 10, even in the scans it commented the thunderclap generated winds like a hurricane. Even if his thunderclap winds generate 5x that of a hurricane wind, mach 10 is faster [11,000km/h or 6,800mph]. She is built to take wind resistance at mach 10. Plus she is even capable of going faster, mach 10 is her confortable top speed.
Stop! why does have the power of a small nuclear explosion prove she can't escape it? Wind is not that fast.
Edit: I believe the highest recoreded winds reached 300mph