quote: (post)Originally posted by Darth Jello
they don't support us, they use us, everyone hates them, and they manipulate everything. I still think that Al Qaida may have plannd 9/11, but the saudis financed it and the hijackers were probably well trained Saudi soldiers, not al qaida mujahadeen.
Possible...Also, maybe the Saudis trained them, used the hijackers to do the dirty work and set Al Qaeda up since they are in the position of being the only real threat to Saudi supremacy and power in the region.
Since they want to kill the Saudis anyhow, maybe this worked out to the Royal Family's advantage. The possibilities are endless..
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Until my family and I decide to move to Israel, we're not in danger. Nor is anyone else not around that area. I'm not saying that having this sort of thing happen wouldn't lead to worse, I'm just saying this specific are of conflict doesn't place you or I in any danger.
A limited nuclear exchange--especially in the middle east--will make investors crap their money-bagged pants, which in turn will make Big Business freak, which in turn will affect prices of many, many items all over the world. Our economy is globalized, for better or worse. No one escapes unscathed.
Originally posted by Mindship
A limited nuclear exchange--especially in the middle east--will make investors crap their money-bagged pants, which in turn will make Big Business freak, which in turn will affect prices of many, many items all over the world. Our economy is globalized, for better or worse. No one escapes unscathed.
Well said. There is also growing concern about China's military as well. They're growing steadily, have decent training, and have recently finished joint border exercises with the Russians this past 3 or 4 months. The point of the exercises was airborne invasion. Taiwan, anyone?
Russians and Chinese buddy buddy again? The modernizing of their weapons and hardware? Getting a bit scary.
Aside from Russia, I always felt that if the Peoples' Army got ALL of their resources together, and linked up with N. Korea and overran the DMZ, there would be nothing stopping them because we don't have enough manpower to stop them.
We can then look at Korea rejoined as a Communist state with Chinese peacekeepers and the nukes used as leverage against any country who stands against the new Iron Curtain.
Korea wouldn't be such a problem if China wasn't such a free floating wild card.
Originally posted by Dagons BladeHave you never heard of the term "blowback"...?
Possible...Also, maybe the Saudis trained them, used the hijackers to do the dirty work and set Al Qaeda up since they are in the position of being the only real threat to Saudi supremacy and power in the region.Since they want to kill the Saudis anyhow, maybe this worked out to the Royal Family's advantage. The possibilities are endless..
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Have you never heard of the term "blowback"...?
Sure have, but here's something else to think about:
Another possibility:
Al Qaeda and the Saudis come to a deal, knowing the U.S. is their common foe. Bin Laden is also addressed as a foe considering his stance on the royal family and his outsing from the UAE and his less than warm stance on Al Qaeda.
The Saudis fund and train Al Qaeda and in return for that, ask for
them to withhold attacks until a plan can be formulated. The plan?
Deliberately train the hijackers to appear as Al Qaeda and Taliban.
This way, when the war starts, Al Qaeda will have the green light to operate as intel sources will make the mistake of lumping A.Q. and Taliban in one category and attack them and give them their excuse. A.Q. envoys then suggest alliance with the Taliban in a bid to defeat a common foe in the U.S. Spies of A.Q. are then put into the Taliban's ranks.
This way, Al Qaeda gets their wish as they go into action against the West all over the world, the Saudis have a buffer zone as Al Qaeda protetcts them in retrun for money and green light to attack the West,
and the Saudis can rest knowing Bin Laden gets the blame, which puts him on the run and decreases his chances of returning to the UAE to perform attacks on the royals because A.Q. infiltration into the Taliban provides the Saudis with intel on his whereabouts.
There is a way to kill 2 birds with one stone. You never know.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
everyone, look up "project for a new american century" and "new pearl harbor"
PNAC - political extremism that won't hold any footing for very long
NPH - I'm always skeptical of books that try to reveal the "truth" about anything - they always lead me to the vision of this one brave man somehow acquiring secret information or gaining some unique insight, boldly and selflessly coming forward to write his new book so everyone can buy it and realize the truth.
Please.
I looked into it further and the guy apparently states that a missile struck the Pentagon and that the WTC towers were brought down by explosives strategically placed within at the Bush administration's behest rather than planes. Ridiculous charges at the very least.
Originally posted by Dagons Blade
Well Yamamotos said it well on the deck of his ship as he heard the reports about Pearl Harbor.."We have awakened a sleeping giant."Words to live by. **** with US, get the horns.
That's very patriotic. I'm sure every soldier who has been killed in battle is crying a little bit over that one.
Is anyone else getting nervouse that:
-Iran's top politician has again made public statements about Isreal for its rude foreign policies.
-Isreal is calling for a that even it got US goverment's support.
-Russia saled Iran missles capable of delivering nuclear warheads to Isreal. And US goverment had did it for a long time to Isreal for against Arabic world and other countries.
-That Isreal is testing anti missle defense systems in fear of a future attack? Not exactly, Isreal's army always using gunships against Palestine's small arms, bombing refugee's house, killing people.