Originally posted by leonidas
i'm saying that in 40 years, it has been done less than a handful of times. it's possible, but not likely.
40 years of CIS and PIS don't matter here.
I agree with you that Hulk is crazy strong, and crazy resistant, but i wouldn't be surprised if S'ym won this fight. The way i see it happening (comic-wise) would be S'ym somehow surprising Hulk, knocking him around a few times, and eventually overloading him and knocking him out.
Next issue, Hulk for some reason gets uber-p1ssed off and beats the crap out of S'ym.
Or something like that...
er, did you just say 40 years of stories are cis/pis? 😑
with 40 years worth of stories to SUPPORT his strength, i'd say the times he was BEATEN using force were the incidents of pis/cis . . .
possible sym could get a ko -- especially if he surprised hulk. but in a straight up fist fight, i still side with hulk.
Originally posted by Eternity
Hulk has crumpled adamantium before and I believe he could beat Sym but if he was not quickly enaraged he could lose
That is grade B adamantium. Don't even dare compare it to grade A adamantium.
Originally posted by leonidas
er, did you just say 40 years of stories are cis/pis? 😑with 40 years worth of stories to SUPPORT his strength, i'd say the times he was BEATEN using force were the incidents of pis/cis . . .
possible sym could get a ko -- especially if he surprised hulk. but in a straight up fist fight, i still side with hulk.
I don't see it that way. I could very well bring out the wildcard, aka Wolverine. Since he appeared as a Hulk villain (of all things) his entire career as a character has been one big bungle of CIS/PIS.
By your logic, since he's consistently been represented through CIS and PIS, the only occurences of CIS and PIS were when he lost fights. (for the record, i used to think like this as well a long time ago).
Originally posted by leonidas
er, did you just say 40 years of stories are cis/pis? 😑with 40 years worth of stories to SUPPORT his strength, i'd say the times he was BEATEN using force were the incidents of pis/cis . . .
possible sym could get a ko -- especially if he surprised hulk. but in a straight up fist fight, i still side with hulk.
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
That is grade B adamantium. Don't even dare compare it to grade A adamantium.I don't see it that way. I could very well bring out the wildcard, aka Wolverine. Since he appeared as a Hulk villain (of all things) his entire career as a character has been one big bungle of CIS/PIS.
By your logic, since he's consistently been represented through CIS and PIS, the only occurences of CIS and PIS were when he lost fights. (for the record, i used to think like this as well a long time ago).
pis/cis are by definition examples of characters acting OUT of character -- ie -- they go against what has been clearly shown to be the normal perimeters of a character. if he has been shown to be one way for almost his whole career, that is not pis/cis. i hate wolverine, but he RARELY loses. there have been MANY moments of pis/cis in wolvie's career, but on the whole he rarely loses.
again, the bulk of evidence supports them, whether you agree with their depictions or not. 🙁
Originally posted by leonidas
pis/cis are by definition examples of characters acting OUT of character -- ie -- they go against what has been clearly shown to be the normal perimeters of a character. if he has been shown to be one way for almost his whole career, that is not pis/cis. i hate wolverine, but he RARELY loses. there have been MANY moments of pis/cis in wolvie's career, but on the whole he rarely loses.again, the bulk of evidence supports them, whether you agree with their depictions or not. 🙁
You didn't get my point. Hulk can and HAS been knocked out. If the punch/kick/whatever is strong enough and at the beginning of the battle, it can and has happened. I called it PIS/CIS that he hasn't had it happen more often, because he's gone up against stronger/tougher characters that could've done it just as well as the ones that did knock him out did, but they DIDN'T. How can that be explained if not by CIS/PIS?
SO you agree that a short canadian with claws and a healing factor can't be knocked out by Hulk huh? ( this from his earliest appearances till today) ? 🤨
so you're saying characters job to a character with basically infinite strength?😑 we'll agree to disagree on this issue.
as far as wolverine:
unfortunately, i have no choice BUT to agree with it. he's also fought many other hulk-level opponents in the past (wendigo, wrecker to name just a couple off the top of my head) and had success against them. what else can we conclude but that he IS able to fight these types of guys? i hate it, but the evidence FOR it is overwhelming. 🙁
Originally posted by leonidasWolverine gets extra powers because he is from Canada.
so you're saying characters job to a character with basically infinite strength?😑 we'll agree to disagree on this issue.as far as wolverine:
unfortunately, i have no choice BUT to agree with it. he's also fought many other hulk-level opponents in the past (wendigo, wrecker to name just a couple off the top of my head) and had success against them. what else can we conclude but that he IS able to fight these types of guys? i hate it, but the evidence FOR it is overwhelming. 🙁
Originally posted by kgkg
was it savage Hulk or Prof 😉
The OP didn't mention 😉
And your scan is indeed quite old 😉
Originally posted by leonidas
so you're saying characters job to a character with basically infinite strength?😑 we'll agree to disagree on this issue.as far as wolverine:
unfortunately, i have no choice BUT to agree with it. he's also fought many other hulk-level opponents in the past (wendigo, wrecker to name just a couple off the top of my head) and had success against them. what else can we conclude but that he IS able to fight these types of guys? i hate it, but the evidence FOR it is overwhelming. 🙁
😂 again, you miss my point. The point being that it's happened, it CAN happen, characters had the potential and opportunities to make it happen again, but they didn't. That is CIS/PIS.
as for wolverine:
Compare his feats to his powers. Ask yourself if they match in any way 😬