S'ym vs Hulk

Started by leonidas5 pages

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
You're relentless did ya know that? Instead of a cookie i'm gonna reward your relentlesness with a PM with somethin 😄

And i suppose we're just going to have to "agree to disagree". I see this as a match S'ym is more than capable of winning more often than not.

fair 'nuff. and i look forward to the thread. i got some early spawn, but wasn't crazy about it so i don't know much about spawn. hopefully you're thread will enlighten me!

nice debating with someone who doesn't get all personal and 'insulty'. not that many around here . . .😉

Originally posted by kgkg
You are right
😖hifty:

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Hulk does not have any sort of telepathy now does he?
And i don't think it was in New Mutants. That picture long pig gave is from The Ballad of Belasco.

Hmmm, I should have been more precise.

Cable beat S'ym... with his bare hands (he may have had his staff but I don't think so). He grabbed S'ym's tongue with his arm then preceded in beat the crap out of him. At least I think thats how it went down.

So Cable and Colossus have both kicked this guy's butt and you think he can take on Savage Hulk? Seems like a long shot. Hulk's strength is said to be limitless and has never been close to getting beaten by Collossus.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
😖hifty:
ya and he gets outta that to 😄

Originally posted by kgkg
ya and he gets outta that to 😄
Yea because he looses concentration cause Access interupted him.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea because he looses concentration cause Access interupted him.
😉

My point is proven note I never said Hulk won simple broke out of Gl's construct like I was showing hulk’s strength.

Am proving nothing more

i doubt kg is saying hulk would win in a fight against gl. just that he's strong enough to break his contructs, which he is. hulk could certanly hurt gl, and a careless, less proficient gl than hal could be beaten by hulk, but hal would find a way to take him, eventually.

as for getting away from that beast -- all hulk had to do was dig. what's the big deal? 😑

Originally posted by leonidas
i doubt kg is saying hulk would win in a fight against gl. just that he's strong enough to break his contructs, which he is. hulk could certanly hurt gl, and a careless, less proficient gl than hal could be beaten by hulk, but hal would find a way to take him, eventually.

as for getting away from that beast -- all hulk had to do was dig. what's the big deal? 😑

I don't think he would be smart enough to figure that out.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
PIS?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossusandSym.jpg


Colossus defeated Sym?

For real

Originally posted by kgkg
Colossus defeated Sym?

For real

what issue was that? i prolly have it and don't even remember it. inferno sucked arse. didn't that sym look like a robot in that scan?? sym was a demon, i thought . . ..

I just don't see him beating Hulk. He snapped a claw in a weird demon dimension. That hardly means he would defeat the king of strength.

Originally posted by leonidas
what issue was that? i prolly have it and don't even remember it. inferno sucked arse. didn't that sym look like a robot in that scan?? sym was a demon, i thought . . ..
Colossus is frustrated, because his sister believes him dead. Rogue wants to comfort him, but as she touches him, her gloves burn away, luckily she is fast enough to pull it back before she absorbs Piotr. The australian sun heats Colossus‘ skin up and he still is not able to change into humans form (due to an injury caused by the Marauders). Later he accidentally burns his sketchbook with pictures from Illyana. Angered he tries once more to change back, but it‘s useles. After dinner Gateway enters the room and points towards Colossus, he wants him to step trough one his portals. The X-Men argue about it, but most of them forward it so Colossus goes.

In Limbo Magik fights S’ym and his overwhelming forces for rulership. She decides to use a necromancy spell, to summon the dead back to live, but before she completes it Colossus appears. Illyana is somewhat surprised, but she believes him to be a shadow image summoned by her sorcery. Piotr too is shocked to see his sister turning more and more into the Darkchilde. The fight goes on and is quickly ended when Colossus punches S’ym to pieces. He then learns why he really was summoned. Baba Yaga an old Sorceress from russian mythology had come to the school earlier that night and captured all of the New Mutants; only Illyana was able to escape in the last second. Baba Yaga plans to eat the kids, but Illyana can’t counteract her magik directly. Because sorcery is least effective against iron she thought of Colossus, since steel is a form of iron.

Brother and sister head for the school, which has tranformed into a dark gritty place. Piotr enters and easily defeats Yaga’s minions, but the place where she holds the kids is behind a narrow passage. Colossus does not fit through. After straining himself to the limit Piotr is able to change back to human form, now he fits through and fights Baba Yaga, but is loosing. He remembers Illyanas words that sorcery is least effective against iron, so he changes back into armored form; Baba Yaga goes down in a scream. Now Illyana can reverse all the changes with her spells. The siblings comfort each other, realizing how muches they missed each other, still Illyana believes him to be a ghost; Gateways portal opens and Piotr goes back to australia. Alone Magik thinks about casting again the necromancy spell to have Colossus around forever, but she realizes that this spell would turn her into a demon forever, she wonder why she got off lucky the one time she used it.

In Limbo S’ym reassembles himself, because he is now a techno-organic being. He reveals that Baba Yaga was a ploy to make Magik use the necromancy spell and condemn her. Now he decides to wait, because each time Illyana uses sorcery he knows the walls between Limbo and earth will weaken more, till Libo’s demons will rule earth.

Originally posted by leonidas
what issue was that? i prolly have it and don't even remember it. inferno sucked arse. didn't that sym look like a robot in that scan?? sym was a demon, i thought . . ..
He was a techno-organic being at the time. I don't remember the story fully.

I just know that Colossus pounded him.

apparently . . . i'll have to dig back and see if i can take a better look at the story. i just remember hating it. never liked belasco, or illyana either . . .

that entire story was a trick devised by S'ym to get Illyana to use more magic, neither he or Magik knew that Gateway had teleported the real Colossus to limbo, thinking that Colossus was a necromantic construct summoned and sustained by the dark energy Magik raised, it's safe to say that having Illyana think her brother defeated S'ym, suited the demons purpose, having his reluctant mistress use more black magic to control what she and S'ym thought was a necromantic shade. S'ym could not infect Colossus with the transmode virus, i'm guessing because he was armored up (which doesn't make sense to me), but Hulk is all organic and has no such defense.

Originally posted by leonidas
fair 'nuff. and i look forward to the thread. i got some early spawn, but wasn't crazy about it so i don't know much about spawn. hopefully you're thread will enlighten me!

nice debating with someone who doesn't get all personal and 'insulty'. not that many around here . . .😉

As long as the people i argue with are mature and use logic, i don't mind debating with them and see no point in getting personal.

Hope it will. I'm still working on it 😄

Not only is that picture not from the Ballad ofBelasco (i think), but also misinterpreted. What you're refering to, like LordKaos said, was a "let them think they won" thing, so that Illyana would "give in to the dark side" 😛
In the Ballad of Belasco, when S'ym i don't think even had the TO virus yet to make him stronger and more deadly, killed Colossus 😬

Is Namor underwater stronger then Sy'm? 😱

I remember reading in the marvel handbook some time ago that S'ym could press about 70 tons, now considering he contracted the transmode virus from Magus, one can assume that he can increase his size and strength by an unknow degree. Magus could become big and strong enough rip a star apart.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Is Namor underwater stronger then Sy'm? 😱

I don't think he stronger per se, but i can't see Namor lose underwater as much as i don't see S'ym lose to Namor in Limbo