iceman vs. wolverine in antartica

Originally posted by scotsmn
"What Bobby Drake does, ::::::::as I see it::::::::, is project a field that inhibits the motion of those particles (herein referred to as Brownian Motion) thus dropping the temperature and freezing the moisture."

I skimmed it since it was so long but I saw this. All speculation. Real life physics don't always work in comics and this is one of those cases.

Wolverine is not very affected by cold at all. He frequently runs through icey forests without even a shirt... completely naked many times. ::::as I see it:::: his healing factor is causes his body to be extremely resistant against cold.

In an evironment such as Death Valley there's just not enough moisture to defeat Wolverine. Ice man would tire very quickly.

Yes, but in this scenario, he loses 100% of the time. 😛

Originally posted by Blair Wind
thats only one source (and if you dont read all of it then whats the point in debating with you....it all comes together)....dude its generally accepted truth that iceman can control moleculer motion...get over over it wolvie goes down.....

hes another senerio...he turns into the water vapor in wovies body...and then just absorbs it all his mouisture then leaves....dude too many options.....

cuz it was at the bottom of the page....

Originally posted by Blair Wind
thats only one source (and if you dont read all of it then whats the point in debating with you....it all comes together)....dude its generally accepted truth that iceman can control moleculer motion...get over over it wolvie goes down.....

hes another senerio...he turns into the water vapor in wovies body...and then just absorbs it all his mouisture then leaves....dude too many options.....

Healing factor would own him if he tried going inside. Iceman may have some control over molecular motion, that means jack squat to Wolverine.

Little moisture = little ice = dead iceman

Originally posted by Blair Wind
cuz it was at the bottom of the page....

::::::as I see it:::::::

Originally posted by scotsmn
Healing factor would own him if he tried going inside. Iceman may have some control over molecular motion, that means jack squat to Wolverine.

Little moisture = little ice = dead iceman

how does that mean jack squat to wovie? healing factor isnt gonna compensate for you very molecules stopping....🤨 that makes no sense....yes he is very resistent to cold,. but thats a cold that is, for lack of a better word, "attacking" him from the outside, from his solid flesh...iceman attacks the very molecules of his body, that means all of it....

lots of molecules= iceman wins= flash frozen runticicle

::::as I see it::::

Slowed down molecules would be interpreted as danger to his healing factor. Metabolism would speed up to compensate. That's why he can go running through freezing temperatures without a shirt on and not be cold.

Can iceman, in the middle of one of the hottest deserts in the world, cool Wolverine down enough to stop him before Wolverine reaches him and impales him? No way.

If it makes you feel better, I already stated that in a "normal" environment, Wolverine has no way of catching Iceman and would therefore lose due to not having an offense capable of hurting Iceman.

You do know that Iceman can use his powers even without transforming right?

I mean, he could literally just freeze Wolverine's insides. Completely stop their molecular motion. Bring his ENTIRE BODY to ABSOLUTE ZERO if he really wanted to.

Even in a desert, Wolverine loses horribly.

Originally posted by scotsmn
If it makes you feel better, I already stated that in a "normal" environment, Wolverine has no way of catching Iceman and would therefore lose due to not having an offense capable of hurting Iceman.

I understand that, and I agree, but I disagree on the whole hot envirnment......if Iceman wants you to go down you go down moleculer shut down....its a flash freeze, no way his metabalism could compensate that fast...if you had read the whole post (the source) you would see that he did that to Legion....it was instantaneas.....it would happen to wolvie too....why? cuz of moleculer shutdown....

Originally posted by Metalmanx
You do know that Iceman can use his powers even without transforming right?

I mean, he could literally just freeze Wolverine's insides. Completely stop their molecular motion. Bring his ENTIRE BODY to ABSOLUTE ZERO if he really wanted to.

Even in a desert, Wolverine loses horribly.

Healing factor = no

Originally posted by scotsmn
Healing factor = no

healing factor wont compensate in time.... 😉

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I understand that, and I agree, but I disagree on the whole hot envirnment......if Iceman wants you to go down you go down moleculer shut down....its a flash freeze, no way his metabalism could compensate that fast...if you had read the whole post (the source) you would see that he did that to Legion....it was instantaneas.....it would happen to wolvie too....why? cuz of moleculer shutdown....

Wolverine isn't legion. He has a healing factor that is very resiliant towards the cold, evidenced by the many times he is seen in the mountains during winter completely naked. Healing factor = cold stopper.

Iceman wouldn't be at 100% anyway in the desert. It's a well known fact that he IS affected by heat.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Wolverine isn't legion. He has a healing factor that is very resiliant towards the cold, evidenced by the many times he is seen in the mountains during winter completely naked. Healing factor = cold stopper.

Iceman wouldn't be at 100% anyway in the desert. It's a well known fact that he IS affected by heat.

I dont think your getting the point that getting cold from the environment and someone bringing your entire bodies molecules to absolute zero are two diffrent thing entirely.....

What makes me laugh is not that Wolverine is somewhat resistant to cold weather. Examples such as running through snowy forests, or -15 degres or so. But it the fact that someone can compare -15 degres or snowy forests to Iceman who can go -105 in 2 seconds.

Iceman gets moisture from the air. Like stated before, even the Sahara Desert has moisture in the air. Fighting in Death Valley, isnt hotter than the Sahara im affraid. Iceman can control Wolverine's bloodflow to the brain by stopping it and killing him. Can Wolverine heal from the brain having lack of blood(which means lack of oxygen as well)? I highly doubt it.

Wolverine cant do anything that can damage Iceman period. This shouldnt be a debate. They way people argue makes it seem as if Wolverines fighting 1963 Iceman. Hes not an outer coating of ice anymore. He can freeze Wolverine instantly. He can even control moisture thats beneath the ground.

Im surprised this thread has lasted 3 pages.

Then again, im not.

Originally posted by jrodslam
What makes me laugh is not that Wolverine is somewhat resistant to cold weather. Examples such as running through snowy forests, or -15 degres or so. But it the fact that someone can compare -15 degres or snowy forests to Iceman who can go -105 in 2 seconds.

Iceman gets moisture from the air. Like stated before, even the Sahara Desert has moisture in the air. Fighting in Death Valley, isnt hotter than the Sahara im affraid. Iceman can control Wolverine's bloodflow to the brain by stopping it and killing him. Can Wolverine heal from the brain having lack of blood(which means lack of oxygen as well)? I highly doubt it.

Wolverine cant do anything that can damage Iceman period. This shouldnt be a debate. They way people argue makes it seem as if Wolverines fighting 1963 Iceman. Hes not an outer coating of ice anymore. He can freeze Wolverine instantly. He can even control moisture thats beneath the ground.

Im surprised this thread has lasted 3 pages.

Then again, im not.

I'm surprised that you think this would KO/kill Wolverine after reading the Spiderman vs. Wolverine thread... you have.. readi it?

Iceman can't keep Wolverine cold for 2 reasons. It's HOT in Death Valley.. this would be warming/giving energy to Wolverine. His healing factor fights the cold with a fury.

"Theoretically, the Iceman has an almost unlimited supply of moisture at all times since it is always present in the surrounding air or environment. Even desert air has sufficient moisture content for him to make practical use of, although the process takes somewhat longer. However, the mental effort needed to employ his mutant power can eventually fatigue him and render his freezing ability temporarily disfunctional."

There ya go. 2 seconds my booty. Wolverine tags him and ends it before Iceman can stop him.

ya eventually....thats after he flash freezes wolvie and makes himself an ice cream....im going to sleep adios.

Originally posted by scotsmn
I'm surprised that you think this would KO/kill Wolverine after reading the Spiderman vs. Wolverine thread... you have.. readi it?

Iceman can't keep Wolverine cold for 2 reasons. It's HOT in Death Valley.. this would be warming/giving energy to Wolverine. His healing factor fights the cold with a fury.

"Theoretically, the Iceman has an almost unlimited supply of moisture at all times since it is always present in the surrounding air or environment. Even desert air has sufficient moisture content for him to make [B]practical use of, although the process takes somewhat longer. However, the mental effort needed to employ his mutant power can eventually fatigue him and render his freezing ability temporarily disfunctional."

There ya go. 2 seconds my booty. Wolverine tags him and ends it before Iceman can stop him. [/B]

fine, I admit it....it'll take 5 seconds 😈

Originally posted by Blair Wind
fine, I admit it....it'll take 5 seconds 😈

That's all Wolverine needs 😈 Goodnight.

Iceman will win so easy all he will need to do is to freeze wolvie into a block of ice and smash it leaving only an adamantium skeleton behind...

What exactly is Wolverine tagging here? Ice?

Is he gonna cut into ice? Last time I checked, that won't kill Iceman.

Iceman, no matter the environment, wins 10000000000000/10.