iceman vs. wolverine in antartica

Originally posted by house
Iceman will win so easy all he will need to do is to freeze wolvie into a block of ice and smash it leaving only an adamantium skeleton behind...

They are in the desert, not enough moisture in air for ice to do the trick. Read up a few posts.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
What exactly is Wolverine tagging here? Ice?

Is he gonna cut into ice? Last time I checked, that won't kill Iceman.

Iceman, no matter the environment, wins 10000000000000/10.

He can cut him into icecubes, eat a couple if he's feeling thirsty, watch them melt.. whatever.

Originally posted by scotsmn
I'm surprised that you think this would KO/kill Wolverine after reading the Spiderman vs. Wolverine thread... you have.. readi it?

Iceman can't keep Wolverine cold for 2 reasons. It's HOT in Death Valley.. this would be warming/giving energy to Wolverine. His healing factor fights the cold with a fury.

"Theoretically, the Iceman has an almost unlimited supply of moisture at all times since it is always present in the surrounding air or environment. Even desert air has sufficient moisture content for him to make [B]practical use of, although the process takes somewhat longer. However, the mental effort needed to employ his mutant power can eventually fatigue him and render his freezing ability temporarily disfunctional."

There ya go. 2 seconds my booty. Wolverine tags him and ends it before Iceman can stop him. [/B]

Ok heres wher youre completely wrong.

You think Death Valleys 130 degrees (the most) is gonna hinder Iceman in the slightest, when he can generate temperatures thats over -100 below zero? His healing factor isnt gonna fight that kind of cold. Why do you consist on comparing snowy forests and -15 to -100?

Also that little quote you got from Marvel directory, is old. Thats not even the Iceman who can transform to all ice. Its the one who simply has the Ice coating. Nulled.

Like i said, Wolverine is down in seconds. It was being generous when 2 seconds was stated. Look what he did to Emma.

Originally posted by scotsmn
They are in the desert, not enough moisture in air for ice to do the trick. Read up a few posts.

He can cut him into icecubes, eat a couple if he's feeling thirsty, watch them melt.. whatever.

You are being really ignorant now. Face facts. The desert wouldnt hinder Iceman. What marvel directory states is PRIOR to Bobby being able to turn into ALL ICE. Hes always going to have enough moisture in the air.

Wolverine can slice, chop Iceman and is wouldnt do anything.

well said^

Originally posted by jrodslam
Ok heres wher youre completely wrong.

You think Death Valleys 130 degrees (the most) is gonna hinder Iceman in the slightest, when he can generate temperatures thats over -100 below zero? His healing factor isnt gonna fight that kind of cold. Why do you consist on comparing snowy forests and -15 to -100?

Also that little quote you got from Marvel directory, is old. Thats not even the Iceman who can transform to all ice. Its the one who simply has the Ice coating. Nulled.

Like i said, Wolverine is down in seconds. It was being generous when 2 seconds was stated. Look what he did to Emma.

Iceman can make the temperature -100... ok. Let's say the temperature starts at 75. That means he can reduce the temp 175. Death Valley starts at 130. 175-130 = -45.

You must realize the temperature of the air in death valley is going to affect the temperature of object of Iceman's attention.

The forests that Wolverine runs through are -15? Oh I dunno about that, seems to me that he's run through -30 shirtless. Keep in mind that he'll be clothed in the desert. That makes him even more resistant.

So we have Wolverine in an environment where it's 15 degrees colder than when he's running around shirtless. 😕

Healing factor for the win.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Iceman can make the temperature -100... ok. Let's say the temperature starts at 75. That means he can reduce the temp 175. Death Valley starts at 130. 175-130 = -45.

You must realize the temperature of the air in death valley is going to affect the temperature of object of Iceman's attention.

The forests that Wolverine runs through are -15? Oh I dunno about that, seems to me that he's run through -30 shirtless. Keep in mind that he'll be clothed in the desert. That makes him even more resistant.

So we have Wolverine in an environment where it's 15 degrees colder than when he's running around shirtless. 😕

Healing factor for the win.

Tell me what forests he runs through thats -30 degrees? I was being gracious with -15 degrees.

Where has Wolverine ran shirtless in the extreme cold? Canada? Where the low would be around -12 in the average winter? And you compare that to -100+? 😆

The temp/air in Death Valley wont affect Bobby at all.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Tell me what forests he runs through thats -30 degrees? I was being gracious with -15 degrees.

Where has Wolverine ran shirtless in the extreme cold? Canada? Where the low would be around -12 in the average winter? And you compare that to -100+? 😆

Let us not forget wind chill factors, which are not even taken into consideration.
The temp/air in Death Valley wont affect Bobby at all.

Canada can get as cold as -81.5 F.

And the temp in Death Valley may not affect Bobby (MAY) but it will affect anything outside of him. The sun has much power.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Canada can get as cold as -81.5 F.

And the temp in Death Valley may not affect Bobby (MAY) but it will affect anything outside of him. The sun has much power.

First off, -81 is Canada's record low is it not? Was Wolverine in that weather? No he wasnt. If you want to list record lows, since this fight IS in Antarctica, the record low there was -129 F. Wolverine aint doing too well there

And IF they were to fight in Death Valley with the record high it would be 134, which Iceman can survive due to him being completely ice. And his ice output would STILL be below zero. And he STILL can freeze Wolverines bloodflow.

Sure the ice that Iceman shoots would melt quicker, but he can gather ice/water from BENEATH the earths surface.

Either way you slice it(no pun intended), Iceman wins.

Originally posted by jrodslam
First off, -81 is Canada's record low is it not? Was Wolverine in that weather? No he wasnt. If you want to list record lows, since this fight IS in Antarctica, the record low there was -129 F. Wolverine aint doing too well there

And IF they were to fight in Death Valley with the record high it would be 134, which Iceman can survive due to him being completely ice. And his ice output would STILL be below zero. And he STILL can freeze Wolverines bloodflow.

Sure the ice that Iceman shoots would melt quicker, but he can gather ice/water from BENEATH the earths surface.

Either way you slice it(no pun intended), Iceman wins.

He'd have to dig way too deep since the heat carries deep and eliminates moisture in the ground as well. He can't pull moisture from an unlimited distance. Wolverine will close the gap way before Iceman can gather his very limited resources to mount a defense.. much less an offense.

In a desert...

Originally posted by scotsmn
[B]He'd have to dig way too deep since the heat carries deep and eliminates moisture in the ground as well. He can't pull moisture from an unlimited distance. Wolverine will close the gap way before Iceman can gather his very limited resources to mount a defense.. much less an offense.

Oookay...he closes the distance. Then what happens? He goes all stabby? Cusses?

Iceman scoffs, and then freezes every drop of moisture within Wolverine's cell membranes, causing the ice crystals to expand (ice expands to have a larger volume than water has), and destroys every single cell within Wolverine's body simultaneously.

No regen from that. Owned. 10/10.

Originally posted by scotsmn
He'd have to dig way too deep since the heat carries deep and eliminates moisture in the ground as well. He can't pull moisture from an unlimited distance. Wolverine will close the gap way before Iceman can gather his very limited resources to mount a defense.. much less an offense.

What are you saying? He would have to dig too deep at all. Maybe 20 if that. How do you think there are plant life and small animals there? Either way, Iceman can generate the ice from moisture beneath the earth in seconds.

Theres no gap for Wolverine to close when hes on the floor in seconds due to brain freeze. Ice beams, barries, clones etc. Iceman can multitask.

You still have yet to explain what Wolverine can do to Iceman to get a win.

And you still have yet to realize that Wolverine dies without blood/oxygen to the brain. Healing factor cant counter that.

What the hell is the matter with you scotsm?

NOTHING that Wolverine can do can kill Iceman. NOTHING.
ANYTHING that Iceman can and has done inthe past and CAN replicate will kill or seriously hinder Wolverine.

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
What the hell is the matter with you scotsm?

NOTHING that Wolverine can do can kill Iceman. NOTHING.
ANYTHING that Iceman can and has done inthe past and CAN replicate will kill or seriously hinder Wolverine.

His version of Wolverine vs Iceman is based solely on the Capcom game.

Originally posted by Melnorme
His version of Wolverine vs Iceman is based solely on the Capcom game.

😆 Oh God.....can't stop laughing..... 😂

Originally posted by jrodslam
What are you saying? He would have to dig too deep at all. Maybe 20 if that. How do you think there are plant life and small animals there? Either way, Iceman can generate the ice from moisture beneath the earth in seconds.

Theres no gap for Wolverine to close when hes on the floor in seconds due to brain freeze. Ice beams, barries, clones etc. Iceman can multitask.

You still have yet to explain what Wolverine can do to Iceman to get a win.

And you still have yet to realize that Wolverine dies without blood/oxygen to the brain. Healing factor cant counter that.

20ft? Not in Death Valley. Plants in that region survive by holding on to water very well. Their roots stink since there isn't water in the soil most of the time.. it would be a waste of material. Their pores are smaller... much more efficient. They wait till it rains and absorb as much as possible since it slowly seeps out of them anyway.

There will be no ice beams (at least not of any worthwhile size) Barriers? Forget it. Not enough ice. Clones, no way.

I DID explain what Wolverine can do. I'll go over it again. He can stab or decapitate Iceman. He can cut him into many pieces. He can eat the pieces, watch them melt, pee on them.. whatever. Iceman will most likely revert to Human form. He no longer has the ability to stay ICEMAN forever. It was taken away from him. In his weakened state, in the heat of Death Valley, having been cut up into pieces.. I'd say he's in for KO/death.

Originally posted by scotsmn
20ft? Not in Death Valley. Plants in that region survive by holding on to water very well. Their roots stink since there isn't water in the soil most of the time.. it would be a waste of material. Their pores are smaller... much more efficient. They wait till it rains and absorb as much as possible since it slowly seeps out of them anyway.

First off there are other plant life in that region besides cactus's. And what about small animals? How do you thin they get their water? Have you ever heard of Badwater? Death Valley isnt as dry as you think.

Originally posted by scotsmn
There will be no ice beams (at least not of any worthwhile size) Barriers? Forget it. Not enough ice. Clones, no way.

Oh how wrong you are. As long as Booby has energy and is not tired, hes going to stay in ice form. And as long as hes in ice form, he can do everything stated above with no problems.

Originally posted by scotsmn
I DID explain what Wolverine can do. I'll go over it again. He can stab or decapitate Iceman.

Iceman hels/reforms in seconds.

Originally posted by scotsmn
He can cut him into many pieces. He can eat the pieces, watch them melt, pee on them.. whatever.

Iceman can still use powers in vapor form. Cutting him will do nothing.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Iceman will most likely revert to Human form. He no longer has the ability to stay ICEMAN forever. It was taken away from him. In his weakened state, in the heat of Death Valley, having been cut up into pieces.. I'd say he's in for KO/death.

Why would Iceman revert back to human form? Hed stay ied up the entire battle. What weakened state if he can heal instantly?

And you still have yet to realize that Wolverine dies without blood/oxygen to the brain. Healing factor cant counter that.

Originally posted by jrodslam
First off there are other plant life in that region besides cactus's. And what about small animals? How do you thin they get their water? Have you ever heard of Badwater? Death Valley isnt as dry as you think.

The lil animals get their water from eating the plants, the bigger (at least bigger than the lil ones) animals get their water from eating the lil animals.

Originally posted by jrodslam

Oh how wrong you are. As long as Booby has energy and is not tired, hes going to stay in ice form. And as long as hes in ice form, he can do everything stated above with no problems.

No that's not true. He can cool things down with his power, but without moisture to cool and turn into ice, his main ability is canceled out.

Originally posted by jrodslam

Iceman hels/reforms in seconds.

Originally posted by jrodslam

Iceman can still use powers in vapor form. Cutting him will do nothing.

Originally posted by jrodslam

Why would Iceman revert back to human form? Hed stay ied up the entire battle. What weakened state if he can heal instantly?

Originally posted by jrodslam

And you still have yet to realize that Wolverine dies without blood/oxygen to the brain. Healing factor cant counter that.

Going to bed now, goodnight. 😖leep:

Iceman. All the time, anytime, every time.

Originally posted by scotsmn
The lil animals get their water from eating the plants, the bigger (at least bigger than the lil ones) animals get their water from eating the lil animals.

No that's not true. He can cool things down with his power, but without moisture to cool and turn into ice, his main ability is canceled out.

From getting cut into little pieces? Not so fast in 130 heat with no water around... just saying.

His powers depend on moisture... so his powers would be extremely limited. Besides, the dry heat would probably disperse him in vapor form.

He would revert back from exhaustion and damage sustained.

Healing factor can handle that for a very long period of time.. plenty long enough to kill Iceman. How is iceman gonna isolate just the artery that feeds the brain anyway? Does he have x-ray vision? He'd probably freeze the entire brain if Wolverine didn't have a healing factor, in which case the brain wouldn't need oxygen anyway..

Going to bed now, goodnight. 😖leep:

Man, your post is like the heaven of speculation 😂
Can you show me an instance where 90's and recent Iceman hasn't been able to use the moisture around?

I doubt you'll find one, because he can. If there wasn't any moisture around, there wouldn't be any life around. As little moisture as there may be, he can use it.

Again: Nothing wolverine can do can hurt Iceman
Anything Bobby can do can hurt/kill Wolverine.

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
What the hell is the matter with you scotsm?

NOTHING that Wolverine can do can kill Iceman. NOTHING.
ANYTHING that Iceman can and has done inthe past and CAN replicate will kill or seriously hinder Wolverine.