Originally posted by Sundipped
Thanos stated that he would retain limitless power but would not know his enemies next move. Like psycho said he was still using other abilities granted by the other gems though. That .05% chance for victory for the heroes accounts for him simply not knowing what's coming next.
Beyonder basicly said the same thing here about the Hulk
Originally posted by golem370
Beyonder basicly said the same thing here about the Hulk
So when Banner is there with the Hulk, that is where the finite element comes in? Cool.
So in versus threads, unless it's pure Mindless Hulk, as long as Banner is there, there will be a finite element to Hulk. Thanks.
Originally posted by golem370
to be fair the thread is called Power Gem Strength vs Hulk Strength not Hulk/w Banner
But Hulk and Banner are always linked - moreover, Pak established that Hulk always holds back (even when he's trying to keep puny Banner down). So just as you have to consider who is wielding the power gem, you also have to consider the character of Banner/Hulk.
the thread was more hypothetical (raised way before hotm, obviously). i wanted to see what people thought about the POTENTIAL limits of each, unbounded by anything. it wasn't intended to be a feat-based thread, rather i was listening to the hyperbole. both were said to be 'infinite'. i was looking more for whose infinite was greater.
Originally posted by
1) Thanos resumed time with a snap to get the battle started.2) He threw Drax and Hulk into another time.
3) Opened a portal for Mjolnir after it was thrown.
4) Turned adamantium into rubber etc.
1) Thanos only affected the time flow of several individuals, not of reality itself.
Thanos has proven he can do this to at-least one individual at a time.
Thanos did this to Surfer (manipulated his personal time-flow) in the "Salaria" feat.
But wielding the PG, it's safe to assume he was able to extend that influence to several individuals.
2) Thanos opened a dimensional portal that lead to another "time" with the PG.
It's something the likes of Thor or BRB and a host of others do for lulz.
You don't need to control the "concept" of "time" to open portals to another time-era.
3) Same deal.
4) Thanos inherently can rearrange molecules. He's proven this on panel in at-least one occasion.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But Hulk and Banner are always linked - moreover, Pak established that Hulk always holds back (even when he's trying to keep puny Banner down). So just as you have to consider who is wielding the power gem, you also have to consider the character of Banner/Hulk.
But WBH was essentially Hulk without Banner right? The Hulk that broke Onslaught's armor had Banner shut off.
Originally posted by golem370
But WBH was essentially Hulk without Banner right? The Hulk that broke Onslaught's armor had Banner shut off.
Hulk with Banner recently, nearly overpowered an Abstract with pure strength alone. An Abstract that was able to not only control the Phoenix Force but also controlled an IG wielder.
Originally posted by golem370
What Abstract? Carver you don't agree that Banner holds Hulk back from truly loosing control?
In Betweener.
What Sorrow said. Think about it. Not a single hero died during Hulk rampage. It's because Banner holds back that power. This thread doesn't have anything to do with that though. Hulk can unleash here without harming others so there's no need for him to contain Hulk. With that said, like I've said before, Hulk IS a walking PG so I wouldn't put either above the other.
Originally posted by carver9yeah pretty clear cut that his strength is increasing with his anger, as Thanos says.
I'm guessing this is what it would FEEL like fighting the Hulk. This statement is clear cut.
A toddler can understand he not comparing the gems power to Hulks.
Also Thanos doesn't say FEEL like he says ASSUME.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
yeah pretty clear cut that his strength is increasing with his anger, as Thanos says.A toddler can understand he not comparing the gems power to Hulks.
Also Thanos doesn't say FEEL like he says ASSUME.
Lol...Shaw strength increase when hit...Wolverine strength along with his stats increase when berserk...he could've used anybody. He said fighting Champion is like fighting the Hulk. Even a toddler would understand this. Let me short hall this for you so that you'll understand. Titan fighting Carver9 feels like he will be fighting Mike Tyson. What does this mean titan?
Originally posted by golem370
So Carver how do you explain Zeus owning Hulk when In-Betweener was nearly over powered by Hulk?
Hulk showed up to Zeus for Zeus to kill him. He went to Zeus to sacrifice his life for the other Hulks.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5863173/Incredible_Hulks_622_015.jpg.html
And plus, Zeus is a bad mofo.
Your ability to take a statement grossly out of context is astounding. none
Thanos: "[Champion's] strength seems to grow in direct proportion to his anger. In many ways I assume this is what it would be like battling the Terran behemoth, the Hulk...":
http://i.imgur.com/nZ3CrfQ.jpg
IOW, the strength increases Champion sustains via anger *seemed*(to Thanos) like they would be akin to those Hulk sustains from anger. That is where the 'comparison' between them stops.
Aside from that, since when do Thanos' assumptions equate to incontrovertible fact? If carver were in the other corner of this 'debate', he'd be the first one to call BS. srsly
Originally posted by Galan007
Your ability to take a statement grossly out of context is astounding. noneThanos: "[Champion's] strength seems to grow in direct proportion to his anger. In many ways I assume this is what it would be like battling the Terran behemoth, the Hulk...":
http://i.imgur.com/nZ3CrfQ.jpgIOW, the strength increases Champion sustains via anger *seemed*(to Thanos) like they would be akin to those Hulk sustains from anger. That is where the 'comparison' between them stops.
Aside from that, since when do Thanos' assumptions equate to incontrovertible fact? If carver were in the other corner of this 'debate', he'd be the first one to cry BS. srsly
Assume is a huge word in that statement (that I forgot about) but with Thanos intellect and him knowing the Hulk capabilities, that is a HUGE assumption for Hulk.
