Originally posted by Decay
speaking of when hulk threw him into that mountain, wasnt the only effect of that to cause the juggernaut to wonder if hulk mind was capable of understanding unstoppable. right before he dove off and landed on hulk with both feet driving him into the ground?
Originally posted by golem370
"The Juggernaut possesses Class 100 strength, enabling him to lift (press) over 100 tons. The Juggernaut is said to be unstoppable, and the upper limit to his strength is not known"." Until recent times, the Juggernaut possessed a variety of superhuman physical abilities mystical in origin.
The Juggernaut possessed vast superhuman strength, the limits of which were never revealed. The Juggernaut's strength was sufficient for him to battle powerhouses such as Thor and the Incredible Hulk, placing his strength well into the Class 100 level, being able to lift in excess of 100 tons. Truly, only the Hulk was ever observed to be able to match the Juggernaut's nearly limitless physical strength
Aside from his incredible strength, the Juggernaut's body possessed an extraordinary degree of invulnerability to injury, allowing him to trade blows with some of the strongest heroes of the Marvel Universe. The Juggernaut could withstand high powered energy blasts, falls from great heights, exposure to temperatures greater than that of the surface of the Sun, exposure to vaccum environments, etc. without sustaining even the slightest injury The Juggernaut could increase his invulnerability to even higher levels by generating a mystical forcefield around his body. This field was sufficient to enable him to withstand powerful energy blasts from beings as powerful as the Silver Surfer, multiple blows from Thor's hammer, and Wolverine's adamantium claws.
The Juggernaut was, literally, an unstoppable force. Once in motion, whether it be running or walking, no physical force could prevent his forward momentum. His pace could be slowed considerably by powerful energy blasts, many tons of rocks, etc. but nothing completely halted his forward momentum. This is true with the one exception of his battle with the Incredible Hulk as War II where much to Juggernaut's shock he was stopped".
Marvel own Wed Site gives him a 7 Strength level which is Incalcuable Strength on par with Hulk Thanos Thor Abomination and The Destroyer.
Sigh...why can't people understand these very simple facts? Good post, golem370.
Even without his mystical shield, he's still virtually invulnerable. That means, even if Thor only PARTIALLY negates Juggernaut's mystical shield, he's still barely done anything at all, since Juggy will still be invulnerable.
It would really just be a waste of time for Thor to even try that. If your only way for him to win is a ring-out, then that's pretty sad.
I didn't know one could easily defeat Juggernaut by throwing him in a mountain...😕
Classic Juggernaut can't be beat by these two, no matter how much you guys want it to happen.
Classic Juggy 10/10.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I didn't know one could easily defeat Juggernaut by throwing him in a mountain...😕
A superstrong character that uses telekinesis in order to use his powers such as Gladiator or one that uses tactile telekinesis such as Superboy could concievably pick up a mountain and drop it on Juggernaut, effectively slowing him down to the point of stopping him. When he first got the gem and the mountain collapsed think about how long it took him to get out.
But just throwing him into some rocks and boulders won't do crap.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
That makes no sense. The fight was interrupted and they were both getting in good shots. Calling it a win because Hulk got the last attack is just stupid. And it wasn't even a mountain, it was just an outcropping of rock.It does if he focuses his power. He seems to do it subconsciously.
Considering Juggernaut's been around for over 40 years, I wouldn't call what the [b]2005
hulk handbook says as Juggernaut's classic stats. And how many times do you have to be told that Juggernaut had been depowered for some time when that was written?
He was made of pure psionic energy after Hulk cracked Onslaught's armor and he had help to do it.
Hulk began to walk away afterhe thought he had won. If it was a normal hit would he have thought he had won or even started walking away? It is after hulk starts walking away that the Xmen mind blast jugs.
Jugs does not have unlimited strength. Saying that just because jugs is rated 7 just like hulk on marvels website does not mean he is equal to hulk in strength. Hulk is also rated 7 in durability just like juggernaut does this mean he is equal to him?Please tell me some of jugs strength feats can any of them match hulks
Originally posted by Eternity
Hulk began to walk away afterhe thought he had won. If it was a normal hit would he have thought he had won or even started walking away? It is after hulk starts walking away that the Xmen mind blast jugs.
Jugs does not have unlimited strength.
I didn't say he did.
Hulk got beaten by juggernaut in that comic because he did not know who juggernaut was and was still trying to find out who he was while jugs was attacking him. He did not put up much resistance and even when he had the upper hand offered to help juggernaut. Jugs then capitalized on this and started beating hulk up. This was also proffessor hulk. Juggernaut did not fight in a fair situation as hulk thought he was a construction worker and because if this did not fight juggernaut initially allowing jugs to get the upper hand
Originally posted by Eternity
Hulk got beaten by juggernaut in that comic because he did not know who juggernaut was and was still trying to find out who he was while jugs was attacking him. He did not put up much resistance and even when he had the upper hand offered to help juggernaut. Jugs then capitalized on this and started beating hulk up. This was also proffessor hulk. Juggernaut did not fight in a fair situation as hulk thought he was a construction worker and because if this did not fight juggernaut initially allowing jugs to get the upper hand
You're really stretching there, my friend. Unknown to him or not, if someone is kicking your ass, you don't "hold back". Don't give me that crap. Juggy beat the hell out of him. And then almost killed him.
If you're at the brink of death, are you still worried about who your attacker is? Not at all.
Juggernaut does indeed have limitless, uncharted strength. One of those nice little gifts from Cyttorak. Don't believe if you want, but it's the truth.
When have you ever seen anything physically that Juggernaut couldn't break/push/lift/tear/destory? He trades blows with Hulk. Blows that actually hurt and damage the Hulk. Hulk's strength and durability then increases with rage as the fight goes on. Juggy's hits still continue to damage and hurt Hulk.
Therefore, Juggernaut has limitless physical strength. I dunno why this is so hard to fathom.
yeah hulk has limitless potential. the capacity for infinate strength but he starts out around class 100 and incrementally goes up during a fight when he gets angry. is he had limitless strength all the time the amount of effort he put in something would be meaningless. he could swing a casual backhand that could have the force or every star in the universe exploding if his strength was infinite.