Originally posted by Metalmanx
When have you ever seen anything physically that Juggernaut couldn't break/push/lift/tear/destory? He trades blows with Hulk. Blows that actually hurt and damage the Hulk. Hulk's strength and durability then increases with rage as the fight goes on. Juggy's hits still continue to damage and hurt Hulk.Therefore, Juggernaut has limitless physical strength. I dunno why this is so hard to fathom.
When have I ever seen anything Juggernaut couldn't break/push/lift/tear/destroy?
Onslaught.
10 years to move a mountain is a pretty poor showing for "unlimited strength". There has been another time where it took him like a year to get out from under something.
Juggernaut does not, does not, does not have unlimited strength. He thought he had unlimited momentum though.. that whole "once in motion, juggernaut cannot be stopped" thing. War Hulk showed even that had its limit.
As already stated, Cyttorak himself does NOT have unlimited power, and Juggernaut cannot be stronger than the limit of the power that feeds him sooo.........
Originally posted by scotsmnActually Onslaught is a joke and nobody except people trying to prove Hulk wins ever really use him because the writing in it is so BS.
When have I ever seen anything Juggernaut couldn't break/push/lift/tear/destroy?Onslaught.
10 years to move a mountain is a pretty poor showing for "unlimited strength". There has been another time where it took him like a year to get out from under something.
Juggernaut does not, does not, does not have unlimited strength. He thought he had unlimited momentum though.. that whole "once in motion, juggernaut cannot be stopped" thing. War Hulk showed even that had its limit.
As already stated, Cyttorak himself does NOT have unlimited power, and Juggernaut cannot be stronger than the limit of the power that feeds him sooo.........
If Cyttorak had unlimited power he would be like TOAA. You can have power that stretches to the edge of the cosmos, from time and back, to the brink of infinite, but it would still be finite.
So it could be possible that they will never fight long enough that Hulk's infinite possibility of strength ever comes into play depending on how high Juggernaut's strength is capped. It's uncharted.
Originally posted by Swanky-TunaThen it would in turn be impossible for Hulk to have unlimited strength as if the only thing that is unlimited is TOAA 😉
If Cyttorak had unlimited power he would be like TOAA. You can have power that stretches to the edge of the cosmos, from time and back, to the brink of infinite, but it would still be finite.So it could be possible that they will never fight long enough that Hulk's infinite possibility of strength ever comes into play depending on how high Juggernaut's strength is capped. It's uncharted.
It took juggernaut years to get out from a mountain but hulk simply smashed it and people still claim he has unlimited strength. Cyttorak probably does not have infinite strength as he is only one being. Hulk strength has been said to come from another dimension which may be infinitely large as it provides him with the strength he needs depending on the importance. When has hulk not been strong enough to do something never. Different tests have also been run on hulk and the results have ended up proving that his strength is immesurable or limitless
Originally posted by golem370
I thought it was stupid when on the X-Men cartoon where Gladiator beat Juggernaut when Rogue was fight pretty good against Gladiator she just didn't have the Durability and Stamnia and not as strong as Gladiator.
A lot like how Juggernaut was used to show how powerful Onslaught was.
Originally posted by Eternity
It took juggernaut years to get out from a mountain
Originally posted by Swanky-TunaYes but then in turn you can could say that Cyttoraks power is drawn from the Crimson Cosmos which may also be infinitely large. You can not disrgard one unlimited for another especially when it has been stated by writers for Marvel.
It could be that the dimension Hulk draws his power from is infinitely large.
Originally posted by Eternity
Hulk began to walk away afterhe thought he had won. If it was a normal hit would he have thought he had won or even started walking away? It is after hulk starts walking away that the Xmen mind blast jugs.Jugs does not have unlimited strength. Saying that just because jugs is rated 7 just like hulk on marvels website does not mean he is equal to hulk in strength. Hulk is also rated 7 in durability just like juggernaut does this mean he is equal to him?Please tell me some of jugs strength feats can any of them match hulks
let this sink in a little bit. This is with his powers having recently been drained by D'Spayer in front of him and his flesh was melted from his bones. Now if, with power drain similar to thor dampening with the hammer, he can still go to fight, than alot of blunt trauma will not do what is needed to knock him out of the fight.
Originally posted by EternityAnd that is the only way they can win while Juggs can win in other ways for instance killing them.
If the only way to beat juggernaut was to knock him out he would be undefeatable however these are two people who are at least equal if not superior to him in strength. Thor and hulk can win by removing him from the battlefield.
Jugs cannot kill them instantly because they are no wimps they can both hold there own with him. He would have to wait for them to tire in order to gain the upper hand these guys however dont tire easily as they have superhuman stamina not a match for juggernauts but enough for this battle. They will figure out long before they get tired the only way to win and will do what they need to do.
Originally posted by EternityWhich is battle field removal.
Jugs cannot kill them instantly because they are no wimps they can both hold there own with him. He would have to wait for them to tire in order to gain the upper hand these guys however dont tire easily as they have superhuman stamina not a match for juggernauts but enough for this battle. They will figure out long before they get tired the only way to win and will do what they need to do.