The most powerful Apprentice

Originally posted by Escape81
1. Count Dooku initially threw the fight, but had to ramp it up a little, seeing that Anakin was too relenting. By that time, of course, Anakin got into full aggression-mode, and outmaneuvered the Count. Yes, he won that battle. I do not dispute it. But I don't think all was as it seemed.

2. Anakin had the most potential. If he had reached it, he would have been able to squash Sidious, Yoda, and Dooku like bugs. But at the time, he was weaker than all three. Sidious looked to the future, but he didn't take into account what would've happened should Anakin be compromised before he reached his potential.

3. Sidious was the ruler of the galaxy. Vader sat at his right hand. Vader, like all the others before him, was Sidious's toy. Vader didn't rule the galaxy. At all.

The way you type oozes with n00b, sorry.

yes once you've bin a member of kmc for 3 months THEN u can write like a ..um...eh....non-noob!!!

thats a point! what do all you idiots who call everone "noob" call yourselves?? veterans???i mean fair enough if you registered in 2000 but most u fools haven't bin here half a year!!!!
😂 😂 by the way i'm a "Newb" 2

Noob -- fool, inarticulate, simply an idiot
Newb -- someone who's been here a relatively short time

i've just elevated myself out of "sad loser" class into "loser" class

they should have a "terminology" page here at kmc

Ok... by the way I have been here for three months...so I guess that gives me the oh so mighty right to claim you a n00b? This is freakin retarded.

Originally posted by Darth Faunus
I take it you haven't read Dark Lord.

dude, having mechanical limbs gave him abnormal almost superhuman-like strength, it didnt make him weaker lol

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
yes once you've bin a member of kmc for 3 months THEN u can write like a ..um...eh....non-noob!!!

Try a year.

NO NO NO u miss my...nevermind! 🙂

i was trying to be funny, as usual didn't work!

Originally posted by Tangible God
Suit-Vader would be owned by the following:

*ahem* *clears throat* EVERY PT FORCE-USER WITH THE EXCPETION OF THE YOUNGLINGS.

Thats why in Dark Lord he killed a Jedi Knight who sneaked attacked him before he had gotten used to the suit or had much/ any training from Palpatine, right?

Originally posted by braz
coulda, woulda shoulda, DIDNT! dooku lost the fight...n plus y would he throw the fight on purpose knowing hes gunna die, i know i aint goin out like that just because of what some stupid sith lord named darth sidious thinks 😠
and plus, u even admitted it, anakin had the potential or the ability to get more stronger than even sidious and yoda, so that just shows IMO that he has more power whether he reaches that point or not.....and, i thought they both ruled the galaxy 😕

1. Dooku obeys Sidious. When are you all going to learn that, especially in terms of the Sith, when you are one's master, it does not mean that you consider your apprentices equals or friends. Sidious never considered Dooku, Maul, Vader, or Grievous as equals. They were allies, but they were expendable. Dooku would do it because he has been conditioned to obey his master.

2. Anakin never reached his potential. Secondly, Braz, I might have the potential to become a better martial arts user than Jackie Chan. But until I reach that point, he'd kick my ass. Point being that potential means crap for current power. You need to reach it before claiming the status of superiority.

So Vader just reached 80% of Sidious potential. Big deal.
He still has practiced his skills for 20 years under Sidious and perfected his style.
He did become a master and I don't see him still as an apprentice beating himself as swordsmaster. This rediculous statement is always returning on these forums. I think it was clear that Lucas portrayed him as though on the level Mace Windu but no, then the Luke factor everybody dispises would make less sense.

Originally posted by overlord
So Vader just reached 80% of Sidious potential. Big deal.
He still has practiced his skills for 20 years under Sidious and perfected his style.
He did become a master and I don't see him still as an apprentice beating himself as swordsmaster. This rediculous statement is always returning on these forums. I think it was clear that Lucas portrayed him as though on the level Mace Windu but no, then the Luke factor everybody dispises would make less sense.

Vader's not as weak as everyone claims, I'll give 'em that.

Originally posted by braz
dude, having mechanical limbs gave him abnormal almost superhuman-like strength, it didnt make him weaker lol

DS, how would he have been thinking "for all these years" that Luke is better than ROTS Vader if it hasn't been out that long. (BTW, ROTJ Luke would probably take Anakin).

Dooku is maybe a little bit better than Vader, then Maul a pretty far way down.

*puts on flame suit*

Grant it Vader lost some agility in the suit, but 80% of Palpy is still , (just in my opinion) better than Maul or Dooku. The old trilogy saber fights arent as bad as theyre made out to be, though they are slow. And if lucas had the aptitude,and choreographers then as he does know , vader and lukes fights would be ferocious. And this next point is old I know, but GG was robotic and he didnt have a problem with agility, personally, I think Lucas has said all these things to compensate for the differences between the Old trilogy and the new prequels.
But this is just one mans opinion

I for the most part agree with you.

Thanks