Iceman vs Flash

Originally posted by jrodslam
I also heard Flash already had a running start before doing that.

He was moving at lightspeed with 2 steps? Yet there was a time where he already stated that he couldnt go from 0 to lightspeed instantly. In the latest fight with Zoom, he built up momentum and STILL wasnt going lightspeed.

That was obviously crap. Flash can go 0 to lightspeed in no time at all. The writer was just downgrading him to make a story and building suspense. Which is understandable considering how fast Flash can truly be.....

http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashv2148022rg.jpg
Notice how it describes in the first panel that they JUST started moving in the room with that guy and time stops...They trade blows.. Flash describes that he's already been moving lightspeed, and they still never make it to the guy who was only a couple feet away in that initial panel by the end of it.

Needless to say, if he taps the speedforce, he steps out of sync with our time, and time stops to him, and it doesn't matter what speed he's moving.

Originally posted by Draco69
Seven seconds?! Who wrote that crap? It only takes him about a tenth of a picosecond. He has to reach lightspeed in order to do so. And we all know how easy it is for Flash to reach lightspeed. Hell he can WALK at lightspeed.

Flash takes a few seconds to hit lightspeed. When was he able to do it instantly? The only time im aware of was when he gathered speed from other speedsters. Maybe you know of another instance.

Originally posted by Draco69
Yes and the entire battle took place in the space of one second.

Can you show the entire fight? Youre saying he went from 0 to lightspeed instanly? Id like prof of that.

Originally posted by Draco69
Flash never tried to do a IMP at Zoom. Why? Because Zoom was completely schooling him. He couldn't land a single blow to Zoom.

I never said Flash tried to IMP Zoom. I stated that he needed a head start to deliver the push. In the back. Hew built up the momentum and still wasnt going lightspeed. I just was my post and i made a typping error. Instead of push, i typed "puch". Thats my fault.

Originally posted by Draco69
And what ARE you saying about Flash not fighting Zoom at lightspeed? Why would would Flash NOT go at LEAST lightspeed against a man who's a bajillion times "faster" than him.

Flash went lightspeed fighting Zoom 1 time i believe. In the latest fight, Wally stated "Right now, im barely keeping up" "I cant catch him.." "I tear the muscles in my shoulder as I throw my arms forward at over one thousand miles per second..." Not lightspeed.

Originally posted by Draco69
You're relying on inaccurate comics and comics loaded with PIS/CIS. In this forum we ignore such low showings and focus on high showings.

How am i relying on inacurate comics? There has been more than one occasion where Flash stated that he coudnt go to lightspeed instantly. He needs momentum. Those arent low showings. Him going from 0 to lightspeed instantly are PIS. Those are inacurate.

Originally posted by Draco69
Flash wouldn't just "shatter" Bobby. You're assuming he's just a really fast object like a bullet. A bullet would likely shatter Bobby. Or a steel baseball thrown by Thor.

A bullet wouldnt shatter Bobby or a steel baseball thrown by Thor. It may go through him, but thats about it.

Originally posted by Draco69
Flash however can go beyond lightspeeds like it's nobody's business. He can hit with the force of a dwarf neutron star with lightspeed momentum behind it. That's Hiroshima cubed, squared, and cubed again.

I dont doubt Flash can go beyond lightspeeds. He does need the momentum.

Originally posted by Draco69
Flash doesn't even HAVE to do an IMP. Hell all he has to do is steal his speed. And Iceman gets a taste of his own medicine.

I already replied to that in another post.

Originally posted by Juntai
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashv2148022rg.jpg
Notice how it describes in the first panel that they JUST started moving in the room with that guy and time stops...They trade blows.. Flash describes that he's already been moving lightspeed, and they still never make it to the guy who was only a couple feet away in that initial panel by the end of it.

Wait a minute thats not even Zoom(Hunter) Its Reverse Flash(Thawne). Since when does he move from 0 to lightspeed instantly? Talk about iinacurate.

Originally posted by Juntai
Needless to say, if he taps the speedforce, he steps out of sync with our time, and time stops to him, and it doesn't matter what speed he's moving.

When he does tap into speedforce mode time does stop. However in order for him to deliver a IMP he needs to build that momentum wich isnt instant.

Originally posted by jrodslam

When he does tap into speedforce mode time does stop. However in order for him to deliver a IMP he needs to build that momentum wich isnt instant.

Originally posted by Juntai
Well, I just showed a scan of him doing it instantly. [One billionth of a second it said?] Kinda defeats your post.
O.o

Not really. It shows a grat deal of inacuracy. reverse Flash cant go from 0 to lightspeed instantly, so that scan doesnt really hold any weight.

Flash needing a boost from Bart AND Jay just to go from 0 to lightspeed instantly.

Flash always needs that momentum to go lightspeed.

...he still wins...

Originally posted by jrodslam
Flash needing a boost from Bart AND Jay just to go from 0 to lightspeed instantly.

Flash always needs that momentum to go lightspeed.

Originally posted by Juntai
Eh, but my scan is contradictory to yours and is quite canon. It's just writers style. -shrug.- We have scan showing he can, and another showing he can with help.

I guess. As most know, im a HUGE supporter of Flash , but even i know thats rediculous. Im not saying i know all about FLash, however most writers would agree that Prof. Zoom cant go from 0 to lightspeed instantly as well as Wally as most instances show. Ahh well. 😬

It doesn't matter if Flash can use his speed to damage water vapor around him. He can be anywhere and everywhere in the world.

THE FLASH COULD TAKE THIS ONE WITH ONE EYE CLOSE

How?

makkari=flash killer.......

But can't Iceman be fighting Flash in Egypt one second then teleport to China the next?

Because Flash would get there first. 😂

Originally posted by coosie
But can't Iceman be fighting Flash in Egypt one second then teleport to China the next?

Iceman could probably get there first but can't Iceman be one with the earth, with the plants, with everything?

Originally posted by jrodslam
I also heard Flash already had a running start before doing that.

He was moving at lightspeed with 2 steps? Yet there was a time where he already stated that he couldnt go from 0 to lightspeed instantly. In the latest fight with Zoom, he built up momentum and STILL wasnt going lightspeed.

That's not particularly relevant since it's not a linear- straight-line- feat. He needs to stop, turn, search, pick-up people, etc. Every single time he reverses directions he decellerates to zero then jumps back up to that peak speed.

Originally posted by Demas
That's not particularly relevant since it's not a linear- straight-line- feat. He needs to stop, turn, search, pick-up people, etc. Every single time he reverses directions he decellerates to zero then jumps back up to that peak speed.

Which is still a bit iffy considering most times he still needs to build momentum to reach lightspeeds.