Originally posted by Lana
It simply means you have to search to find the gems, PVS. There are a lot of good bands around right now....you just need to try a bit to find them.
PVS is actually right most bands are extremely derivative, or out right clones of greats, the only exceptions are in hip hop - which I am not a fan of anyway.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
PVS is actually right most bands are extremely derivative, or out right clones of greats, the only exceptions are in hip hop - which I am not a fan of anyway.
As VVD said, that's the case with most mainstream mediums though. The shit always outweighs the good. To say "most" bands is wrong. There are many, many great bands. You just have to know where to look, but if you're not willing to look then you have no right to complain.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
As VVD said, that's the case with most mainstream mediums though. The shit always outweighs the good. To say "most" bands is wrong. There are many, many great bands. You just have to know where to look, but if you're not willing to look then you have no right to complain.-AC
Sorry AC I have gone to gigs since before you were born I have to disagree, It's like that bit in the Simpsons "You'll feel like this one day".
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Sorry AC I have gone to gigs since before you were born I have to disagree, It's like that bit in the Simpsons "You'll feel like this one day".
You could have made a credible argument had you not played the irrelevant age card. Shame that.
Either way, doesn't actually change the fact of what I said does it? No. That's just your blinkered, stuck-in-a-time-warp view. If you're not out there actually looking actively for new music, not only are you not that big of a music fan anyway, but you're obviously lazy.
Well then. There will always be great bands as long as music exists and people who appreciate it. I appreciate music from before I was born. Time means nothing because great music is timeless, regardless of when it's created.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You could have made a credible argument had you not played the irrelevant age card. Shame that.Either way, doesn't actually change the fact of what I said does it? No. That's just your blinkered, stuck-in-a-time-warp view. If you're not out there actually looking actively for new music, not only are you not that big of a music fan anyway, but you're obviously lazy.
Well then. There will always be great bands as long as music exists and people who appreciate it. I appreciate music from before I was born. Time means nothing because great music is timeless, regardless of when it's created.
-AC
Great Music is timeless unfortunately the Age card allows you to have experienced "fads" before. That's why it's relevant.
Strange my hard drive indicates differently having 12000 tracks on it. The difference is they start in the 50's and go up to now. I'm obviously not as seriously into "pop culture" as I was, in any of its variants. You have your "young" image to worry about and for you "cool" is "tool" for those my era it was The Cure or The Wonderstuff that filled the same niche. I hope you still like tool as much in twnty years time. 😉 I suspect you won't as the songs which sing to you at twenty don't mean as much as you get near 40.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Great Music is timeless unfortunately the Age card allows you to have experienced "fads" before. That's why it's relevant.
Exactly. Who's talking about fads being good though? When I say look for great bands, I refer to actual great bands, of which there are many. Not MTV bands.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Strange my hard drive indicates differently having 12000 tracks on it. The difference is they start in the 50's and go up to now. I'm obviously not as seriously into "pop culture" as I was, in any of its variants. You have your "young" image to worry about and for you "cool" is "tool" for those my era it was The Cure or The Wonderstuff that filled the same niche. I hope you still like tool as much in twnty years time. 😉 I suspect you won't as the songs which sing to you at twenty don't mean as much as you get near 40.
Hahaha, talk about uneducated. Where did you get the idea that "Tool" are a cool band? Hardly anyone I've met outside this forum knows about them and even here it's not a dramatic amount. That just proves my point right there. Tool aren't an easily accessible band, they've been around since 1992 and have remained more or less under the radar since then. I don't listen to bands that are the new thing just because they're the new thing. Then again, I've never discussed music with you so you're forgiven for having the complete wrong view of my musical taste. The Cure, for your information, happen to be one of my very favourite bands.
If your whole problem is that the music you grew up with isn't relevant to you now, then tough. That doesn't mean there are no good bands anymore, it means you are just stuck in an era.
If someone from the 19th century came here, would they be justified in calling all new technology shit, just because he grew fond of whatever they had back in those days? No he wouldn't. Technology has changed for the better. In many ways, so has music. Back when The Cure were around there was still a lot of shit in the mainstream. The Cure weren't everyone's favourite band.
I have no idea from where you extract your reasoning. The age card doesn't work with me.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
As VVD said, that's the case with most mainstream mediums though. The shit always outweighs the good. To say "most" bands is wrong. There are many, many great bands. You just have to know where to look, but if you're not willing to look then you have no right to complain.-AC
yes, the good to shit ratio will always be lopsided.
but the recent state of the industry has bloated that one sidedness.
its all shit.
Well, then I'd say you don't have any right to complain about not being able to find good music.
I could easily name off 10 excellent bands that are around right now and are fairly well-known or even considered mainstream, without even thinking. Even more if I get into the ones that aren't widely known.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Exactly. Who's talking about fads being good though? When I say look for great bands, I refer to actual great bands, of which there are many. Not MTV bands.Hahaha, talk about uneducated. Where did you get the idea that "Tool" are a cool band? Hardly anyone I've met outside this forum knows about them and even here it's not a dramatic amount. That just proves my point right there. Tool aren't an easily accessible band, they've been around since 1992 and have remained more or less under the radar since then. I don't listen to bands that are the new thing just because they're the new thing. Then again, I've never discussed music with you so you're forgiven for having the complete wrong view of my musical taste. The Cure, for your information, happen to be one of my very favourite bands.
If your whole problem is that the music you grew up with isn't relevant to you now, then tough. That doesn't mean there are no good bands anymore, it means you are just stuck in an era.
If someone from the 19th century came here, would they be justified in calling all new technology shit, just because he grew fond of whatever they had back in those days? No he wouldn't. Technology has changed for the better. In many ways, so has music. Back when The Cure were around there was still a lot of shit in the mainstream. The Cure weren't everyone's favourite band.
I have no idea from where you extract your reasoning. The age card doesn't work with me.
-AC
Tool an not "cool" tahts a shame for you AC
The Cure were cool in the circles I moved in at the time which was University.
Like the Stone Roses were cool when I saw them at spike island and Nottingham Poly.
Yes shit as PVS stated was common in the mainstream.
Music has not really changed for the better - I would put "Waterloo Sunset", "Penny Lane" most of "Pet Sounds" etc against anything today.