Let's see the context.
Originally posted by dmills
Pretty much. But Pak did it right though. He didn't have Hulk beat people he wasn't supposed to beat -skyfathers etc- but he still managed to satisfy the hard core Hulk fans and even gained the respect of a few Hulk haters.I'll always respect him for daring to take on the challenge of taking a character to his extreme, and living with the results of the fans reaction good, bad or indifferent. At the end of the day he told the story that he wanted to tell, and still had the same impact. People as of this moment are coming away saying Hulk is the strongest one there is 🙂
I can only hope to get a guy like that on Nova or the Gotg.
What here is anything more than you mind (only, I hope) masturbating over what Pak would do with Nova, seeing how powerful he made Hulk?
I love how you tried to save face after you were ridiculed for your forum warrior mentality, with the "character matters!!" post.
Originally posted by dmills
Oh I see. No what I was talking about is a writer that can push the bounderies of a characters potential whilst having the character retain its overall integrity. A happy medium if you will. Philo took a snippet of my comments to do his little sniper thing.As a fan I would much rather have a guy like Pak, who understands cosmic, knows the characters etc then what we're going to get when Loeb takes over. As a fan, characterization is very important to me, which DnA nailed, but they wrote him fairly conservatively in terms of power and fanboy moments. Pak I believe could strike a good balance. If recent history is any indication Loeb in all likelihood will take it over the top and turn him into a characature.
When earlier you were only talking in "He wasn't beating skyfather but holy shit!!! People respect Hulk!!! Even haters!!! How I wish my boy Nova would get that kind of masturbation!!! fap fap fap"
And you don't even have an ideea what you're talking about. There are Hulk fans that think this is ridiculous and that Pak has gone too far. Some who even think that he has actually destroyed the character with this ridiculousness, where he suddenly "holds back" so much that when he finally cuts loose, he vaporizes high-heralds just with the shockwave of him hitting something else.
Truth is, you don't have any ideea of Hulk, or whether or not how Pak writes him is accurate, progressive for the character, or just battleboard wankery with superficial, even hurtful to the overall character characterization. You just saw "shit, power!!" and now you're spewing how you want that to happen to your "favorites", and when you're called on your bullshittery you go "Yeah, but Pak understands the characters, and I want that kind of respect too" when you have no clue about how Pak treats them.
Sad, really.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWlol that's true, he's worse than Johnny. Funny to watch them interract.
I knew that post would surprise you 😂 It's the simple truth, Parker trolled him worse than HT did when he was alive.My favourite instance is when he no-sold Ben's punch and tossed him aside like he was garbage in TASM.
My personal favorite is when Pete tossed him from a skyscrapper as a distraction.
Originally posted by SamZED
lol that's true, he's worse than Johnny. Funny to watch them interract.My personal favorite is when Pete tossed him from a skyscrapper as a distraction.
Yes, that was hilarious. Ben was playing such a tough guy and ended up screaming "lemme go!" 😂
Originally posted by Parmaniac
When the hell did this happen?
The one Sam mentioned? In Daniel Way's Venom series.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Let's see the context.What here is anything more than you mind (only, I hope) masturbating over what Pak would do with Nova, seeing how powerful he made Hulk?
I love how you tried to save face after you were ridiculed for your forum warrior mentality, with the "character matters!!" post.
When earlier you were only talking in "He wasn't beating skyfather but holy shit!!! People respect Hulk!!! Even haters!!! How I wish my boy Nova would get that kind of masturbation!!! fap fap fap"
And you don't even have an ideea what you're talking about. There are Hulk fans that think this is ridiculous and that Pak has gone too far. Some who even think that he has actually destroyed the character with this ridiculousness, where he suddenly "holds back" so much that when he finally cuts loose, he vaporizes high-heralds just with the shockwave of him hitting something else.
Truth is, you don't have any ideea of Hulk, or whether or not how Pak writes him is accurate, progressive for the character, or just battleboard wankery with superficial, even hurtful to the overall character characterization. You just saw "shit, power!!" and now you're spewing how you want that to happen to your "favorites", and when you're called on your bullshittery you go "Yeah, but Pak understands the characters, and I want that kind of respect too" when you have no clue about how Pak treats them.
Sad, really.
You're either being extremely overwrought in your crusade to call out the "forum warz" mentality or you're being exceptionally stupid here. I don't need to save face from anything because I don't use subterfuge or machinations. If I meant to say what you're accusing me of then I would've simply said I wish Pak would make Nova uber powerful like the Hulk. I'm not sure if you still don't get it or if you're trying to save face, but short of spelling it out for you I couldn't have been more clear. I've been here long enough for people to know that I don't subscribe to the booger eater mentality and you poke your nose in and out of enough threads around here to know better. Stop being a jerkoff.
Furthermore, I don't need to subscribe to the thoughts and opinions of some long time Hulk fans to form my own opinions on Pak based on what I like as a reader of comics. I'm also pretty sure that Hulk fans are not a monolith. So you appealing to the authority of a few Hulk fans is all but meaningless to me.
I've said it numerous times before, but just for you I'll state my position. I loved the portrayal of Nova that DnA wrote. But I also believe that they wrote him fairly conservatively given the fact of what he's carrying around, and what others have done in the past with that same power.
It has been recently -albeit unofficially- announced the Jeph Loeb will be handling Nova and the rest of the cosmic based cast. I said that as a fan I'm not too happy with this, given Loebs recent history of over the top characterization. However, I also would like to see my boy unleash a bit more, and I'd like an origin story on how the Xandarians harnessed the Nova force energies. Thats all. So if Loeb can do that whilst retaining the integrity then I'd be happy. Is that asking too much?
Originally posted by dmillsThat's literally what you did. Saying it's great how powerful and respected as "the strongest one there is" Pak made Hulk, and how you wish Nova had a writer like him.
If I meant to say what you're accusing me of then I would've simply said I wish Pak would make Nova uber powerful like the Hulk.
You do realize that on the internet, unlike in real life, people can just scroll and see your post, right?
Originally posted by dmillsIrony? Projection? Answering my statement of you trying to save face post factum, with the same statement, only in your case it doesn't make sense, since I'm not the one being accused of being a battleboard fanboy?
I'm not sure if you still don't get it or if you're trying to save face
😂
Impressive amount of involuntary self-punching with just that statement.
Originally posted by dmillsJerk=/=me calling it as I see it.
Stop being a jerkoff.
Originally posted by dmillsNow that I've given you examples of actual Hulk fans who found the sudden skyrocketing in power to be stupid and hurtful to the character, the fact that Pak "managed to satisfy the hard core Hulk fans and even gained the respect of a few Hulk haters." or "People as of this moment are coming away saying Hulk is the strongest one there is smile" no longer matters, right? It's only the positive reaction that enforces your point. Well, point is a bit too much said. What your position here is "Hulk was written so powerful by Pak, if only Nova or GTG had a writer like him ..what, me being battleboard orietented in wanting a writer...YOU MISINTERPRET MY STATEMENT! Characterization is very important to me, as a fan."
Furthermore, I don't need to subscribe to the thoughts and opinions of some long time Hulk fans to form my own opinions on Pak based on what I like as a reader of comics. I'm also pretty sure that Hulk fans are not a monolith. So you appealing to the authority of a few Hulk fans is all but meaningless.
Amuse me some more.
Originally posted by Philosophía
That's literally what you did. Saying it's great how powerful and respected as "the strongest one there is" Pak made Hulk, and how you wish Nova had a writer like him.You do realize that on the internet, unlike in real life, people can just scroll and see your post, right?
Irony? Projection? Answering my statement of you trying to save face post factum, with the same statement, only in your case it doesn't make sense, since I'm not the one being accused of being a battleboard fanboy?
😂
Impressive amount of involuntary self-punching with just that statement.
Jerk=/=me calling it as I see it.
Now that I've given you examples of actual Hulk fans who found the sudden skyrocketing in power to be stupid and hurtful to the character, the fact that Pak "managed to satisfy the hard core Hulk fans and even gained the respect of a few Hulk haters." or "People as of this moment are coming away saying Hulk is the strongest one there is smile" no longer matters, right? It's only the positive reaction that enforces your point. Well, point is a bit too much said. What your position here is "Hulk was written so powerful by Pak, if only Nova or GTG had a writer like him ..what, me being battleboard orietented in wanting a writer...YOU MISINTERPRET MY STATEMENT! Characterization is very important to me, as a fan."
Amuse me some more.
Respect? Hulk haters? No one on this Board hates the Hulk. Impossible, he is so cute and green. 😇
Originally posted by Philosophía
That's literally what you did. Saying it's great how powerful and respected as "the strongest one there is" Pak made Hulk, and how you wish Nova had a writer like him.You do realize that on the internet, unlike in real life, people can just scroll and see your post, right?
Irony? Projection? Answering my statement of you trying to save face post factum, with the same statement, only in your case it doesn't make sense, since I'm not the one being accused of being a battleboard fanboy?
😂
Impressive amount of involuntary self-punching with just that statement.
Jerk=/=me calling it as I see it.
Now that I've given you examples of actual Hulk fans who found the sudden skyrocketing in power to be stupid and hurtful to the character, the fact that Pak "managed to satisfy the hard core Hulk fans and even gained the respect of a few Hulk haters." or "People as of this moment are coming away saying Hulk is the strongest one there is smile" no longer matters, right? It's only the positive reaction that enforces your point. Well, point is a bit too much said. What your position here is "Hulk was written so powerful by Pak, if only Nova or GTG had a writer like him ..what, me being battleboard orietented in wanting a writer...YOU MISINTERPRET MY STATEMENT! Characterization is very important to me, as a fan."
Amuse me some more.
Look man, I'm not going to go around and around with you about this. I said what I said, and I even clarified and expounded on it. This is where we agree to part ways before discourse becomes... uncivil. Fair?
Originally posted by dmillsYou've hurt my feelings, I thought this was going to end in mutual buttsecks.
Look man, I'm not going to go around and around with you
