Character Ownage

Started by -Pr-5,121 pages
Originally posted by rotiart
Weve seen before that Cain has a great healing factor...
Maybe it's a retcon to decrease his durabilty and up his healing factor?

Maybe. As long as they keep the forcefield thing intact.

Originally posted by rotiart
Maybe it's a retcon to decrease his durabilty and up his healing factor?

The injuries are more extreme than usual but someone with the power of the Juggernaut being hurt without a force field isn't a retcon.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Cain was never Darkseid. Cytorrak wants destruction and chaos in his name. You can't use that line of thinking to argue he didn't get the full power.

I still don't understand the problem people have with that showing. Colossus came off great. He might not have been as powerful as Cain but he was still kicking his ass. His ferocity, damage soak and unstoppable enchantment overcame his other disadvantages.

The classic Juggernaut was never the strongest guy on the planet, and the myth that he was always invulnerable without his force field is just that, a myth. The injuries Colossus suffered might have been more extreme than we're use to but it's hardly a bad showing as his healing factor was highlighted in compensation and Cain has been hurt by a lot less powerful forces.

Cain was always as strong as he needed to be 😬

As for the rest it wasn't a myth Cain has had good showings without his forcefield many times against top level beings like the Exemplars, Nightmare, even Doc Strange himself.

As for the showing it is what is was. A reallygood showing from Colossus against a magical foe which magic can damage a Jugegrnaut as shown in the past.

I would say the injuries were kind of cool because whatever injuries he may have sustained didn't even slow him down, and he basically said he didn't care about them. Which to me is basically in line with a Juggernaut in that you can not physically put them down and pain is just something that their minds make even though it doesn't really matter to them.

It also showed that they are top tier because once again just like WWH a Jugegrnaut was able to come in and use his power to to gai nthe upperhand or stalemate someone that was running through everyone else which the Worthy for the msot part have been doing.

Originally posted by Damborgson

what is that from?

Originally posted by -Pr-
what is that from?
itsfrom the ultimate universe. I'm tempted to say ultimates vs galactus but that probably not right...

Originally posted by Damborgson
itsfrom the ultimate universe. I'm tempted to say ultimates vs galactus but that probably not right...

Ah. I don't care, then; I don't read ultimate books.

The art in that scan is really good IMO. If you ever remember the issue(s) could you post them?

Yeah. Wow Colossus looked pretty good. great showing against a very powerful kuurth

Wonder how they will even keep him part of the xmen? That much strength doesn't belong on a team

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
The art in that scan is really good IMO. If you ever remember the issue(s) could you post them?
sure. I used to know it I just can't remember right now...but yeah ill post it latet.

I...WILL...ABANDON...MARVEL...FOREVER...IF... THEY... PULL... THIS...SHIT

Originally posted by dmills
I...WILL...ABANDON...MARVEL...FOREVER...IF... THEY... PULL... THIS...SHIT

ahaha...yes marvel we do want more jeph loeb. How could we not?

Originally posted by dmills
I...WILL...ABANDON...MARVEL...FOREVER...IF... THEY... PULL... THIS...SHIT

Hahaha oh the irony. Not too long ago you wanted a writer who'd give Nova good feats or whatever and now you have Loeb. Richard will stomp Celestials or something eventually but he'll butcher whatever it is about him that you loved. That character on the cover? That's actually Blue Nova Prime.

Loebforce Cable and Nova to look forward to...

Sweet action!

Originally posted by Damborgson
ahaha...yes marvel we do want more jeph loeb. How could we not?

I've known it was Loeb since last year. That's only part of my concern. However, a fundamental shift or a regression in the portrayal of the character post Annihilation and volume 4 was my biggest nightmare. The star on his helmet portrays the rank of a Nova centurion, not a Nova Prime. Looks like he's been demoted back to a regular centurion. He was a war general, and a leader of men. Respected by friend and foe. That shit looks like the current MASH version of Nova that follows Thor everywhere.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hahaha oh the irony. Not too long ago you wanted a writer who'd give Nova good feats or whatever and now you have Loeb. Richard will stomp Celestials or something eventually but he'll butcher whatever it is about him that you loved. That character on the cover? That's actually Blue Nova Prime.

Blue Nova Prime?

Originally posted by dmills
I...WILL...ABANDON...MARVEL...FOREVER...IF... THEY... PULL... THIS...SHIT

boo.. aint nuttin wrong with his old bucket helmet...

Originally posted by dmills
I've known it was Loeb since last year. That's only part of my concern. However, a fundamental shift or a regression in the portrayal of the character post Annihilation and volume 4 was my biggest nightmare. The star on his helmet portrays the rank of a Nova centurion, not a Nova Prime. Looks like he's been demoted back to a regular centurion. He was a war general, and a leader of men. Respected by friend and foe. That shit looks like the current MASH version of Nova that follows Thor everywhere.
what could you expect I guess huh? :/ Loeb has that nasty little habit of messing with characters if it suits his purpose. I doubt he will offer much of an explanation and if he does I'm willing to bet its gonna be one that makes me want to cause him some sort of lasting injury. Gotta hope he pulls out a surprise i guess..(a good one anyway)

Originally posted by Damborgson
what could you expect I guess huh? :/ Loeb has that nasty little habit of messing with characters if it suits his purpose. I doubt he will offer much of an explanation and if he does I'm willing to bet its gonna be one that makes me want to cause him some sort of lasting injury. Gotta hope he pulls out a surprise i guess..(a good one anyway)

Maybe it isn't Richard. Yeah, that's it! Rich is still trapped in the cancerverse. This is a different Nova 🤪