Originally posted by Philosophía
😂Did you just compare the situation when Flash sees Superman's attack coming, can't react to move out of the way fast enough and is shocked that he was actually hit - to an ability Flash just developed that made him unable to make the difference between what he had done and what he was about to do effectively freezing his body until the attack had already landed, by calling them "hey, he wasn't in the proper mindset"?
In all these years, have you seriously not advanced at all mentally?
Superman pushing it means he's able to go into Flash's category of speed, which means he can land attacks without Flash dancing around them, not unlike - the example I already pointed out - boxers being able to hit eachother even if one is faster.
First off I did not know at that moment he gained his powers, if that is the case then I'm wrong on that.
As for having advanced mentally. Yeah let's get something clear I'm not stupid, I'm actually fairly intelligent, and you saying such a statement is in fact idiotic as it shows the kind of person you are. Had I not been wrong about the background of the scan then my point would have been valid. You corrected it and I'm willing to say its not anymore.
As to the rest of it. I still find it funny that you equate Superman tagging Flash by flicking his finger as be all proof that Superman is somehow in Flash's league. When in the previous panels Flash effortlessly avoided him, and saw a punch coming his way and was avoiding it.
Also to sit and think that Superman pushing it somehow makes him in him Flashes league when the entire time Flash was basically playing around with him, well I find it a little crazy.
Yes you can catch someone off guard does not mean you can do it if that someone is prepared.
Also FYI most boxers aren't so much slower than their opponents that they swing and only barely connect because they flick their fingers. At least not if they want to stay in boxing for long.
As for Superman Flash I could care less what level of speed they are. All I know is your statements and your answer to the above question show that you are trying to hint at if not flat out say Superman is Flash's equal or greater in speed or close enough.
The scan doesn't support that at all. What was shown is that Superman trying to grab Flash was useless as he couldn't even touch him. When he tried to hit him, Flash was still able to avoid it as shown in the panel that the fist was not going to connect.
He flicks him which surprised Flash yes.
Could you be right maybe, could it be shown in the future that Superman can push it and connect with Flash that easily again maybe. But to take it as fact from those two pages, I think you are looking with Rose Colored glasses at that feat. Cause at the end of it Superman is fast and maybe took Flash by surprise yes, but to sit here and act like that means he can do it on a regular basis against a Flash who won't take Supes' speed lightly... yeah I think you can switch Flash and Supes names with character x and character y and you would find a multitude of posters who wouldn't be willing to commit to that idea with other characters yourself included.
I even said if there was somewhere else in the book that said or added more to those pages I would be willing to concede. I'm willing to concede that I was wrong about your previous scan of Flash. As it stands though you have an idea that could be proved true in the future but to say that those two pages are definitive proof of your stance, I think you need to mature mentally.