Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Oh Quan of Asgard, you and your anger never ceases to get the better of you.Claiming Thor is more powerful than Mar-Vell when he just got KO'ed by him twice. Classic.
Might as well start claiming Thor is more powerful than Phoenix too.
Nothing worth being angry about. Annoyed? Yes, but that's because Thor should have been able to counter that blast.
Thor is more powerful than Mar-Vell, and by a noticeable margin. Not sure where this new incarnation ranks but you yourself admitted he's more powerful:
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Mar-Vell got a huge powerup though, being honest.
Not sure why can't distinguish between the classic and this new incarnation anymore. They're not on the same level of power, there is no contradiction.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusInstead Mar-Vell was shown to counter the blast because he fights smart. Thor's dumb enough to get KO'ed by his own lightning. Just like he's dumb enough to lose to Taurus (who Thanos supplied the power for) when his weakness was lightning.
Nothing worth being angry about. Annoyed? Yes, but that's because Thor should have been able to counter that blast.Thor is more powerful than Mar-Vell, and by a noticeable margin. Not sure where this new incarnation ranks but you yourself admitted he's more powerful:
Not sure why can't distinguish between the classic and this new incarnation anymore. They're not on the same level of power, there is no contradiction.
Although he could have just been too slow. Again, Thor 101.
I only said that because he was able to take down the usually durable Captain Britain, and counter Vision. What he did to Thor was straight out of the book of Mar-Vell.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Thanks to StrangeJeez, that was easily the most powerful portrayal of Fixit I've ever seen. Handled them less like the Grey Hulk and more like the Merged Hulk/Green Scar. Not to mention he's weaker in the daylight. I'm tempted to call him overpowering Simon PIS. Granted it was early into the run before the power up/push.
I wonder what PAD's opinion of this is. He liked to abide to power levels.
It was fun watching him wreck shit though. Fixit was awesome, the Vegas era was classic.
It's sad when Fixit is even Herald level and also a team wrecker at that.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Instead Mar-Vell was shown to counter the blast because he fights smart. Thor's dumb enough to get KO'ed by his own lightning. Just like he's dumb enough to lose to Taurus (who Thanos supplied the power for) when his weakness was lightning.
Thor 101Although he could have just been too slow. Again, Thor 101.
I only said that because he was able to take down the usually durable Captain Britain, and counter Vision. What he did to Thor was straight out of the book of Mar-Vell.
Thor wasn't fighting smart as he could have easily countered that attack, that's not something I'll deny. Yup, a low showing (Still unclear what device Thanos is using to empower the Zodiac).
Faster than Thanos anyways.
You still said it. Yes, taking shots from Thor like that and hurting him with a punch are a regular thing for classic Mar-Vell. 😐
The Phoenix Force changed him and most likely increased his powers tremendously based on what we've seen and know. Either that or he's getting a huge push in power, ultimately it's an irrelevant distinction though.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThor was fighting incredibly smart for Thor. Using blasts as well as hitting things? That's smarter than 90 percent of his appearances. Very good showing for Thor. He just hit a brick wall in Mar-Vell.
Thor wasn't fighting smart as he could have easily countered that attack, that's not something I'll deny. Yup, a low showing (Still unclear what device Thanos is using to empower the Zodiac).Faster than Thanos anyways.
You still said it. Yes, taking shots from Thor like that and hurting him with a punch are a regular thing for classic Mar-Vell. 😐
The Phoenix Force changed him and most likely increased his powers tremendously based on what we've seen and know. Either that or he's getting a huge push in power, ultimately it's an irrelevant distinction though.
Thanos is powering them up with his own power. Though even if he wasn't, they're still under him.
We'll get to see either Thanos or Hulk KO Thor though in the opening pages of the next comic, so that should be swell.
I agree Rage. I don't see why'd you'd start complaining about the comic and then eventually agree that it was just good writing.
Woah there. For someone saying that we don't know how Thanos powered his low tier minions up, you sure like to assume Phoenix powered Mar-Vell up.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Thor was fighting incredibly smart for Thor. Using blasts as well as hitting things? That's smarter than 90 percent of his appearances. Very good showing for Thor. He just hit a brick wall in Mar-Vell.Thanos is powering them up with his own power. Though even if he wasn't, they're still under him.
We'll get to see either Thanos or Hulk KO Thor though in the opening pages of the next comic, so that should be swell.I agree Rage. I don't see why'd you'd start complaining about the comic and then eventually agree that it was just good writing.
Woah there. For someone saying that we don't know how Thanos powered his low tier minions up, you sure like to assume Phoenix powered Mar-Vell up.
Untrue, I'd like to see you back up hose statement.
He is? Then that is impressive, I remember it being pointed at some kind of device of power but I skimmed the comics.
Yea probably, and it'll suck.
Sarcasm bro.
I think it's a very likely -and the most probable- possibility and so do you apparently. I never doubted that Thanos powered up the Zodiac, the how is what I'm unclear of right now.
Originally posted by Sundipped
It's Phoenix Force power!
To all those who said Odins enchantment was superior to the PF in the Odin vs. Phoenix thread, that's another point scored. 😎
Originally posted by Galan007
So the consensus is that Thor sucks, right?Got it. 👆
And I agree with R@ge. Thor was fighting like an idiot. Why didn't he use Mjolnir's energy manipulation abilities against a foe he KNOWS is energy based? Idiotic writing.
I remember reading something about the Ultimate Nullifier and them looking for hidden devices of power or something. The story was meh so I just skimmed the issues.
The Zodiac key is a possibility, Bran says it's Thanos' own internal energies, that would be surprising.
Originally posted by Galan007
So the consensus is that Thor sucks, right?Got it. 👆
What do you know? Go get a cat out of a tree or something.
I will admit that Thor has gotten hit with the worf effect more often than most these last two months. He's appearing in way too many titles with the Avengers. I'm expecting something horrible in the next Amazing Spider-Man issue, Parker and co. are taking on a mind controlled Avengers team, no way is Thor going to come out looking good there.
