Character Ownage

Started by srankmissingnin5,121 pages

Originally posted by -K-M-
Are you still debating if it was Rulk or Hulk?

This is how the scenes compare....

AvX #11 - Storm attacks and then Hulk attacks
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AvsX-Zone-012.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AvsX-Zone-013.jpg
3. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AvsX-Zone-015.jpg

UXM #18 - Storm attacks and then Hulk attacks, it's the same scene but they made it that Hulk didn't hit her from behind.
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/18.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/19-1.jpg

I think Hulk probably got some gnp in after he hit her from behind.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i'm not

i'll give you MONEY to ban him, you can even borrow my passport

😆

I actually laughed out loud.

Comparing the end of Avx and UXM....

AvX #11 - Blasts the Hulk-like figure and then Cyclops attacks from behind and steals her power (Notice Rulk is on his knees)
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AvsX-Zone-020.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AvsX-Zone-021.jpg

UXM #18 - Blasts the Hulk-like figure and then Cyclops attacks from behind and steals her power
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/20.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/22.jpg
3. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/23.jpg

It's the same scene

Originally posted by -K-M-
Comparing the end of Avx and UXM....

AvX #11 - Blasts the Hulk-like figure and then Cyclops attacks from behind and steals her power (Notice Rulk is on his knees)
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AvsX-Zone-020.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AvsX-Zone-021.jpg

UXM #18 - Blasts the Hulk-like figure and then Cyclops attacks from behind and steals her power
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/20.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/22.jpg
3. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/23.jpg

It's the same scene

Yup.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think Hulk probably got some gnp in after he hit her from behind.

Maybe, I have my doubts as Storm was prone to attack just like the other issue but it's definetly the same scene which Carver tried to argue it's not.

Wait Lobo is covered in white fur now?

the art was atrocious and hard to follow.

Originally posted by society619

Originally posted by -K-M-
Comparing the end of Avx and UXM....

AvX #11 - Blasts the Hulk-like figure and then Cyclops attacks from behind and steals her power (Notice Rulk is on his knees)
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AvsX-Zone-020.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AvsX-Zone-021.jpg

For those still interested, if you use "color picker" on the Hulk-figure's hand (that is not exposed to the fire) the color is red, not green. It's definetly Rulk. Sorry Carver.

Originally posted by -K-M-
For those still interested, if you use "color picker" on the Hulk-figure's hand (that is not exposed to the fire) the color is red, not green. It's definetly Rulk. Sorry Carver.

Agree to disagree. I disagree with your entire stance regarding that showing.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201016/AvsX-Zone-015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13204089/19.jpg.html
^Looks as though Hulk and Emma tangle for at least a short while, going by the dialogue and art, it looks as though Emma is really feeling those punches.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13204090/20.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201022/AvsX-Zone-020.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201025/AvsX-Zone-021.jpg.html
^Seems as though she gets pissed, somehow gets rid of Hulk (not shown how), then Rulk and Wolverine try their luck but are dismissed. I agree with it being Rulk blasted away, looking at the above scans it makes the most sense. I'd wager the Hulk vs Emma fight will be expanded on in AxV VS #6.

Originally posted by -K-M-
For those still interested, if you use "color picker" on the Hulk-figure's hand (that is not exposed to the fire) the color is red, not green. It's definetly Rulk. Sorry Carver.

That's just a reflection of the glow of her PF blast.

If you look, you'll also see that he's wearing Hulk pants and he's sporting a different haircut to Rulk. Rulk is shown earlier wearing long pants (in AvX).

The tie-in also shows that Rulk got slapped by Emma, which places him some distance from where Hulk was wading in her PF blast.

Rulk and Wolverine where off-panel when Hulk attacked Emma, and UXM18 merely shows where they were in relation to where he was in AvX.

AvX doesn't show any interaction between Emma and Rulk.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201016/AvsX-Zone-015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13204089/19.jpg.html
^Looks as though Hulk and Emma tangle for at least a short while, going by the dialogue and art, it looks as though Emma is really feeling those punches.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13204090/20.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201022/AvsX-Zone-020.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201025/AvsX-Zone-021.jpg.html
^Seems as though she gets pissed, somehow gets rid of Hulk (not shown how), then Rulk and Wolverine try their luck but are dismissed. I agree with it being Rulk blasted away, looking at the above scans it makes the most sense. I'd wager the Hulk vs Emma fight will be expanded on in AxV VS #6.


Look at the other hand, it's green-yellow, like Hulk's upper-arm during the smash.

Also, more tellingly, the pants - the scans show Rulk wearing long pants as opposed to "Hulk Pants" of the Hulk that is wading through her PF blast.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201016/AvsX-Zone-015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13204089/19.jpg.html
^Looks as though Hulk and Emma tangle for at least a short while, going by the dialogue and art, it looks as though Emma is really feeling those punches.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13204090/20.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201022/AvsX-Zone-020.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201025/AvsX-Zone-021.jpg.html
^Seems as though she gets pissed, somehow gets rid of Hulk (not shown how), then Rulk and Wolverine try their luck but are dismissed. I agree with it being Rulk blasted away, looking at the above scans it makes the most sense. I'd wager the Hulk vs Emma fight will be expanded on in AxV VS #6.

Your first 2 scans, KM is saying they are the same scene.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201022/AvsX-Zone-020.jpg.html
This scan still gets to me, the pants and the hair style just doesn't fit the coloring. Even with all of K-M explanation, its hard to believe it.

Originally posted by carver9
Your first 2 scans, KM is saying they are the same scene.

They're clearly not the same, the attacks are different and from a different angle, it's most likely meant to show Hulk laying some ground n pound on Emma. We know going by the two books that the time it took for Cyclops to fight off the Avengers was roughly the same length of time it took Emma to fight off Hulk.

It's clear that Emma smacks Rulk away and flies up into the air, AvX shows her being blasted by Cyclops whilst BOTH are high in the air (then falling down with a thud) and Cyclops then strangles her on the ground.

The only way this makes sense is to realise that UXM18 is applying "jump cuts" between the Scott & Emma dinner date and the battle going on in the "real world".

1) Hulk smashes her down (AvX)
2) Hulk pounds on her (UXM)
then she escapes (probably blasts him away).
3) Whilst getting distance from Hulk, she swats Rulk and Wolverine (UXM)
4) Cyclops readies himself, waiting for a clear opportunity (UXM)
5) Climbs into the air, turns and blasts Hulk with a large PF blast (AvX)
6) Cyclops blasts her in the back, whilst BOTH are airborne (UXM/AvX)

Originally posted by -K-M-
What are you talking about? How Hulk had help? Actually would love to see you back up your claim they had some extensive fight from Hulk's suckerpunch.

Even the scan you posted as Storm prone to attack Emma, and just before Dr.Strange and Storm were attacking Emma directly. You posted the scan and you didn't even know it. Did you read the whole issue or just the part with Hulk?

Here is his post. I already posted what you posted Sorrow and he said they are the same scene.