Character Ownage

Started by -K-M-5,121 pages

Originally posted by janus77
That's just a reflection of the glow of her PF blast.

If you look, you'll also see that he's wearing Hulk pants and he's sporting a different haircut to Rulk. Rulk is shown earlier wearing long pants (in AvX).

The tie-in also shows that Rulk got slapped by Emma, which places him some distance from where Hulk was wading in her PF blast.

Rulk and Wolverine where off-panel when Hulk attacked Emma, and UXM18 merely shows where they were in relation to where he was in AvX.

AvX doesn't show any interaction between Emma and Rulk.

It's not, or it would be more yellow not bright red

and yet Cyclops attacks her at the same point where she blasts the Hulk-like figure and "slaps" Rulk. Coincidence? I think not

Apparently it does

Originally posted by vansonbee
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201022/AvsX-Zone-020.jpg.html
This scan still gets to me, the pants and the hair style just doesn't fit the coloring. Even with all of K-M explanation, its hard to believe it.

Both Rulk and Hulk have shaggy hair 😕

Originally posted by janus77
It's clear that Emma smacks Rulk away and flies up into the air, AvX shows her being blasted by Cyclops whilst BOTH are high in the air (then falling down with a thud) and Cyclops then strangles her on the ground.

The only way this makes sense is to realise that UXM18 is applying "jump cuts" between the Scott & Emma dinner date and the battle going on in the "real world".

1) Hulk smashes her down (AvX)
2) Hulk pounds on her (UXM)
then she escapes (probably blasts him away).
3) Whilst getting distance from Hulk, she swats Rulk and Wolverine (UXM)
4) Cyclops readies himself, waiting for a clear opportunity (UXM)
5) Climbs into the air, turns and blasts Hulk with a large PF blast (AvX)
6) Cyclops blasts her in the back, whilst BOTH are airborne (UXM/AvX)

This is exactly what happened.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
They're clearly not the same, the attacks are different and from a different angle, it's most likely meant to show Hulk laying some ground n pound on Emma. We know going by the two books that the time it took for Cyclops to fight off the Avengers was roughly the same length of time it took Emma to fight off Hulk.

Since there at a different angle that means their not the same scene? Their from a different book for crying out loud haha. Most riduclous comment I have heard in a while

Clearly not as we see Emma fighting various characters before and after Hulk's punch

One scene protrayed in three different ways...

Originally posted by -K-M-
[b]Puck I
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Battles [Part: 1/2]
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Firestar
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Infinity Crusade #5:
Puck teaming up with Spiderman take on Firestar and Strong Guy. Puck attacks Firestar and his overconfidence proves to be his downfall due to she attacks him from behind before she passes out. It’s PIS, as Puck has taken far stronger blows than this and it didn’t even phase him.

1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Crusades-05-18.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Crusades-05-19.jpg
3. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Crusades-05-20.jpg
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Web of Spiderman #106:
The exact same fight as above, just more added to it and Puck is attacked from the front this time than behind. Oh if Puck is hammering your head and you have normal durability, she should have been either dead or out like a light then and there.

1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/WebofSpider-Man106-06.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/WebofSpider-Man106-07.jpg
3. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/WebofSpider-Man106-08.jpg
4. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/WebofSpider-Man106-09.jpg
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Alpha Flight #127 (vol.1):
Shaman travels in his astral form to view members of Alpha Flight battling in the Crusade

1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-11.jpg
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Originally posted by -K-M-
...yet Cyclops attacks her at the same point where she blasts the Hulk-like figure and "slaps" Rulk. Coincidence? I think not

He doesn't attack her at that point, that's where you're mistaken.

He clearly attacks her when she's airborne, at a fair height too.

He's just ready and waiting when she's on the ground (smacking away Rulk and Wolverine).

As for the red tinge, again you can see that tinge within the shadows too - it's just some afterglow type effect.

Hair, pants, location and AvX scene continuity all point to Hulk.

Bwaha love the logic forget the actual direct comparisons between the two issues, lets just make up stuff and claim it as fact which was not stated or shown. Keep it up guys 👆

Mungi got owned here, that's for sure. 👆

Spoiler:
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Originally posted by janus77
He doesn't attack her at that point, that's where you're mistaken.

He clearly attacks her when she's airborne, at a fair height too.

He's just ready and waiting when she's on the ground (smacking away Rulk and Wolverine).

As for the red tinge, again you can see that tinge within the shadows too - it's just some afterglow type effect.

Hair, pants, location and AvX scene continuity all point to Hulk.

Actually yes, he did. Wow, reread the issue. Literally soon as when the Hulk is blasted he blasts her from behind...it's in the same page and then the next page he takes her power same way he does in UXM. Thar's pretty sad 🙁

Haha no, if you actually understand basic concept of shading or a light of yellow being shown on you the color of your hand doesn't go bright red. Not even a hue of green in it. Sad.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Since there at a different angle that means their not the same scene? Their from a different book for crying out loud haha. Most riduclous comment I have heard in a while

Clearly not as we see Emma fighting various characters before and after Hulk's punch

One scene protrayed in three different ways...


Look at your scan from AvX:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AvsX-Zone-021.jpg

Notice, Rulk's arm on his knee - long trousers.
The Hulk wore his customary "Hulk Pants".

Originally posted by -K-M-
Since there at a different angle that means their not the same scene? Their from a different book for crying out loud haha. Most riduclous comment I have heard in a while

Clearly not as we see Emma fighting various characters before and after Hulk's punch

One scene protrayed in three different ways...


Smh. There's pretty significant differences in the two attacks, nothing is similar about the two except Hulk is pounding on Emma, don't be purposefully dense.

Once Hulk attacked Emma, at no point during the time it took for Emma to presumably cast Hulk away to Cyclops fighting off the Avengers and Xavier was it shown that anyone else attacked her on panel.

Seems you people don't seem to grasp there is inconsistencies between tie-ins and the main book when it comes to art. Good lord Civil War was filled with them same with Infinity Crusade.

From the book they showed the basic connection between the two and showed what happened and how it ended but you guys are saying stuff that never happened or was shown.

Originally posted by janus77
Look at your scan from AvX:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AvsX-Zone-021.jpg

Notice, Rulk's arm on his knee - long trousers.
The Hulk wore his customary "Hulk Pants".

Yeah and in another scene he has shorts, what's your point? I love how your still ignoring how both issues ended in the same way but choose to ignore it.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually yes, he did. Wow, reread the issue. Literally soon as when the Hulk is blasted he blasts her from behind...it's in the same page and then the next page he takes her power same way he does in UXM. Thar's pretty sad 🙁

Haha no, if you actually understand basic concept of shading or a light of yellow being shown on you the color of your hand doesn't go bright red. Not even a hue of green in it. Sad.


http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13201022/AvsX-Zone-020.jpg.html
They're in the air when he eventually blasts her, hence the fall.

You're getting way too emotional over this, I've never quarrelled with you, never really crossed posts but this is unnecessary.

It's clearly depicted on-panel, the blast is whilst both Emma and Scott are in the air, she falls as a result, he dives right after her, then strangles her on the ground.

haha love the logic again, by your own logic that would mean Cyclops attacked Emma on two seperate occasions and took her powers? am I understanding that right? Im not emotional, but your logic is so faulty it's comical now.

It's the same scene, but a different artist.

Originally posted by -K-M-
haha love the logic again, by your own logic that would mean Cyclops attacked Emma on two seperate occasions and took her powers? am I understanding that right?

It's the same scene, but a different artist.


No, unfortunately it just means you're dense.
Atleast you're doing it intentionally, but maybe that's worse?

It's a jump-cut, like the two before it.

battle raging ...
dinning - conversation [time passes]

jump back to real world: Hulk attacks Emma

dinning - continuing conversation [time passes]

jump back to real world: She's now swatting aside Rulk and Wolverine with Cyclops in the background, waiting...

dinning - conversation turns south [time passes]

jump back to real world: She's airborne and Rulk and Wolverine are nowhere in picture. Cyclops blasts her.

AvX shows that moment from a different angle and includes bits of what happened whilst UXM was showing them dinning.

That's all.

It's a pretty conventional movie technique that they're applying to comics.

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Originally posted by -K-M-
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lol

1) the colours don't match (which is only logical) and
2) the red tinge is in the black areas of the blast picture too... it's just the glow effect, that's all.

lol

Yep, just as I thought you think he attacked her twice 👆

Do you honestly think a lot of time passed? Nope. So in AvX she blasts away Green Hulk as you claimed, which literally in the same page the very next panel of blasting Hulk, Cyclops takes her power. Following your logic, Emma would have had to blast Hulk, get hit by Cyclops and then fight Rulk and Wolverine and then get hit by Cyclops and get her powers taken again. Silly me.

Originally posted by janus77
lol

1) the colours don't match (which is only logical) and
2) the red tinge is in the black areas of the blast picture too... it's just the glow effect, that's all.

Clearly they don't, because as I said I just randomly clicked and one had a bright light shown on him which by your very own words would make him lighter. I notice you didn;t comment on the lack of green hue though. You be trolling son.