Character Ownage

Started by TheGodKiller5,121 pages

Originally posted by Oliver North
I hate to sound like a broken record, but the people who make comics must seriously have no respect for the people who buy comics...

Read some of Brevoort's responses on formspring. You'll realize you aren't sounding like a broken record, but merely realizing a truth that a number of people on this thread discovered months ago.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You're quite late to the party. The fun ended more than a month ago.

Ah, my bad for not checking out that thread. Thanks.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
why do you think I started the recent Superman focus, and the Hulk one happened at an all time carver high? 😂
I may have to make a voting thread to see which character gets trolled...mmm

Originally posted by Oliver North
I don't want to get all cynical... but shouldn't that be, like, a fairly serious offense?

like, the artist cares so little for their productions that they fail to do research that could be solved with a Google search?

I hate to sound like a broken record, but the people who make comics must seriously have no respect for the people who buy comics...


You are quite right in that regard. Go to CBR sometimes, the spidey editor Stephen Wacker said that "Peter Parker fans are fools, we don't need them to buy their comics and they would forget him in few years" or some shit when they were protesting the Spider-Ock idea.

Somebody better stop Rage and Carver from killing each other

Still doubt he picks it up

Originally posted by abhilegend
Somebody better stop Rage and Carver from killing each other
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Read some of Brevoort's responses on formspring. You'll realize you aren't sounding like a broken record, but merely realizing a truth that a number of people on this thread discovered months ago.

what did he say?

(sorry, don't use forumspring)

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are quite right in that regard. Go to CBR sometimes, the spidey editor Stephen Wacker said that "Peter Parker fans are fools, we don't need them to buy their comics and they would forget him in few years" or some shit when they were protesting the Spider-Ock idea.

look, I'm totally cool with artists and writers trying new things, and they wont always work, but did he really personally insult the people who pay for his food?

He will so pick it up.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Still doubt he picks it up

It was already shown that he lifts mjolnir.
Originally posted by Mindset

😂
Originally posted by Oliver North
what did he say?

(sorry, don't use forumspring)

look, I'm totally cool with artists and writers trying new things, and they wont always work, but did he really personally insult the people who pay for his food?


Yup

He said "Peter Parker fans will sort of fade away over the months and years."

He will pick it up easily and keep it.....then Thor will be as useless as Pre Dcnu Aquaman....biscuits

Originally posted by Estacado
He will pick it up easily and keep it.....then Thor will be as useless as Pre Dcnu Aquaman....biscuits

Says the fan of the guy who can be beaten with a flashlight.

Originally posted by Oliver North
what did he say?

(sorry, don't use forumspring)


Oh, trollish shit here and there, but some of it(the non-battleboard related stuff) appeared to be drafted in a serious enough tone to incite rage from fans.
Originally posted by Doon
This shows what he's all about in a nutshell.

http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort/q/191905625309995475


I don't know whether you agree with his views on a technical basis or not, but I am amazed at how much open disdain people like him and Quesada express towards their consumer base.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Says the fan of the guy who can be beaten with a flashlight.

Flash light doesn't effect his powers dummy....uhuh

Originally posted by Estacado
Flash light doesn't effect his powers dummy....uhuh

😂

Originally posted by Estacado
He will pick it up easily and keep it.....then Thor will be as useless as Pre Dcnu Aquaman....biscuits

Janithor doesn't has the telepathy.

http://www.newcomicreviews.com/1/hulkhammer.jpg

Also the preview art was shown without color before too

Also poor Thor

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yup

He said "Peter Parker fans will sort of fade away over the months and years."

that sounds like he is saying "kids who like the movies will eventually grow out of buying the books"...

its unfortunate that the market for comics must be such that fans for 20+ years don't take priority over the piles of money that people like that make for them. It probably is the reality, and as a business Marvel probably is smart for making that decision, but it sort of confirms all the stuff I've thought about why comics suck: they are written for the broadest and basest appeal with no intention of being meaningful "months and years" in the future...

Hell, the idea that fans wont stay with a character is a self-fulfilling prophecy... Maybe a broader acceptance of comics in the public will get the creators to care about long-term brand loyalty, but that attitude seems so toxic. I wouldn't let that author within 50 feet of a Spider-Man book.

^Did you check out the link I quoted in my previous post?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I don't know whether you agree with his views on a technical basis or not, but I am amazed at how much open disdain people like him and Quesada express towards their consumer base.

wow, no, that is very clear. They, literally, have no respect for either their fans or the characters/stories they produce...

I'm sure it does sell more comics, and I suppose that is the point... but wow...

"forget engaging them, or making them interested, we are just going to do things that enrage our fans, because any emotion is good if it sells"

I didn't realize Marvel was so keen on producing transgressive art.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^Did you check out the link I quoted in my previous post?

didn't see it until after that.

it is depressing to say the least

Now you know why he's hated around these parts. There were some posters like jakethebank(not a shot at you jake) who tried to defend him by saying that if fans tried to turn their formpsring accounts into battleboards, they'd be annoyed too, but Brevoort's comments go beyond mere annoyance at power level related questions.