Originally posted by Fifthchild
I dont see him as a rip-off so much as Hickman basically wanting to write an Avengers team with Superman as a member. Which is pretty awesome. Maybe..."blatantly obvious reference"? But i guess this is splitting hairs.
Originally posted by zopzopI've not seen any proof that the Savage Land Terminus is "fake."
That was a fake Terminus.The Real Terminus was the one Reed used that "vibrating" device on and drilled him to Earth's core.
That's the one that, MUCH LATER, went on to merge with the Terminii to become the Stage 5 Terminus.
The Terminus the X-Men fought in the Savage Land was really just a big robot controlled by Grokk.
The one the Avengers fought, the one that Hercules split in two, was a Deviant piloting the armor.
All Terminii, including the so-called "Real Terminus" spawn from biotech microbes or are duplicated biotech.
And that "Real Terminus" was pretty much matched by another Terminii despite having the added advantage of absorbing Mjolnir into itself.
If you have proof that it was a pale imitation that had nothing actually to do with Terminus biotech, by all means, post it.
Yes, the armor was duplicated from Terminus himself. If you have proof that the "Real Terminus" was far more powerful than any of the other Terminii or Terminus-duplicates, by all means, post it.
Originally posted by Fifthchild
I dont see him as a rip-off so much as Hickman basically wanting to write an Avengers team with Superman as a member. Which is pretty awesome. Maybe..."blatantly obvious reference"? But i guess this is splitting hairs.From an earlier interview Hickman indicated that he saw Hulk as the strongest but im sure he has plenty of respect for all of them. He listed Thor and Superman as two of his favourite characters. Its cool to see him developing the friendship between the two and showing how they seem to relate to each other pretty easily.
Im interested to see if theres a rift that might open up between Banner and some of the others later. There was a small scene that might foreshadow him cluing into the New Avengers/Illuminati thing happening in the other book and Hickman has stated that Banner/Hulk will have a pretty big arc.
Rarely see you on here, good to see you back.
Originally posted by The SorrowBasically the big 3.
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Whatever the reason, purely as a fan of comics, it's definitely a treat seeing SuperHype, Hulk and Thor on the same team wrecking shit. Not too many threats they can't handle between the 3 of them.
Eat your heart out Surfer.
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J/K Silver Dude. You're cool, but you're godlike marvel just ignores you.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Basically the big 3.Eat your heart out Surfer.
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J/K Silver Dude. You're cool, but you're godlike marvel just ignores you.
Surfer's got the powers but he's just not manly enough for the big 3, he's more like an intergalactic voyeur. Hates confrontation and would rather travel from planet to planet admiring and studying it's inhabitants....
...while naked.
I am really liking that avengers lineup. Hickman is finding ways to make every hero shine without making the others look bad. All writers should take note. No one really likes it when one hero just makes another look like crap. It reminds me of Morrison's martian invasion arc during his JLA run.
Speaking of making other heroes look like shit...I'm so glad Thor is pretty much off Marvel's sights. Him getting owned left and right was so infuriating and disrespectful to the character. I am not even that big of a Thor fan(well at least not when compared to Thorbags) and I felt like punching the shit out of Marvel's editorial staff.
Originally posted by ODG
I've not seen any proof that the Savage Land Terminus is "fake."All Terminii, including the so-called "Real Terminus" spawn from biotech microbes or are duplicated biotech.
And that "Real Terminus" was pretty much matched by another Terminii despite having the added advantage of absorbing Mjolnir into itself.
If you have proof that it was a pale imitation that had nothing actually to do with Terminus biotech, by all means, post it.
Yes, the armor was duplicated from Terminus himself. If you have proof that the "Real Terminus" was far more powerful than any of the other Terminii or Terminus-duplicates, by all means, post it.
The Savage Land Terminus, both Grokk (X-Men) and that fat Deviant one(Hercules ripped in two), were pale imitations of the Real Terminus.
Originally posted by zopzopI specifically reference the Terminus Factor arc in my statements as well. We're not drawing from two different wells.
It was all explained in the "Terminus Factor" story arc. I'll bump my vs thread and post the scans.The Savage Land Terminus, both Grokk (X-Men) and that fat Deviant one(Hercules ripped in two), were pale imitations of the Real Terminus.
Pale imitations? Because Hyperion busted through its head and Hercules tore one up? You do understand that this so-called "Real Terminus" has had its chest busted through by Thor, had its head blown up by Iron Man, and got completely bullied to sh1t by Alpha on three separate occasions, right?
So again, if you have proof that all these Terminii and their duplicates are much weaker or have absolutely nothing to do with Terminii biotech, post it.
Originally posted by ODG
I specifically reference the Terminus Factor arc in my statements as well. We're not drawing from two different wells.Pale imitations? Because Hyperion busted through its head and Hercules tore one up? You do understand that this so-called "Real Terminus" has had its chest busted through by Thor, had its head blown up by Iron Man, and got completely bullied to sh1t by Alpha on three separate occasions, right?
So again, if you have proof that all these Terminii and their duplicates are much weaker or have absolutely nothing to do with Terminii biotech, post it.
The Real Terminus stomped Thor and absorbed Mjolnir into his being (Thor actually needed to recast enchantments on the hammer and even then it didn't completely return to him until Terminus died and Mjolnir emerged from the black hole that resulted in Terminus' implosion).
The Real Stage 4 Terminus withstood the "fastball special chest ripping attack" by Hercules that destroyed the fake Deviant one.
