Character Ownage

Started by Digi5,121 pages

Originally posted by psycho gundam
his fight with vulcan

also: we do need a new tournament......

Wasn't at base levels. But you're arguing with the wrong person. I'm higher on Havok than almost anyone, so I'm not the one that would need convincing.

And good luck. I think something like 3 of the last 4 we've tried haven't ended. Bentley couldn't even round up 5 judges to follow through on the final. And that was after months of drop-out delays and judging delays. It was a minefield of apathy. And that's added to the continual slow decline of KMC as we get no new site updates from Raz, nor a steady stream of new users from any discernible source. The odds of a decent-sized tourney ever ending successfully at this point are well under 50%, imo. I don't say that to complain - I've had loads of fun through tourneys throughout the years, and on KMC in general. But those are the facts.

It's not impossible, mind you, but even the last successful tourney had only 6 entrants. It's been years since a "large" or even mid-sized tourney had enough legs to go the distance. For as long as I'm around, I'll judge, but I'm never entering one again.

things just have to be more cut n dry, these mega elaborate fights are hard to judge so it's better for weaker characters in these things. the last tournament to finish was the one you "won" so it's testament to the notion that weak characters are best for today's judges

ps. Ultimo is clearly stronger than iron man level, in fact you even posted him fighting various IM all at once , something I found AFTER the initial phases of drafting. dark angel is a legit low herald

Originally posted by psycho gundam
another one could be a Spider-man/batman rogue's gallery tournament

you get to pick 2-3 of their rogues with a day's preparation time and get to utilize standard technologies as well as a handful of henchmen (if they tend to use them)

i can host

I can't even round up three judges for those finals. I'm two steps from making a PG/Me/Coinflip three judge ruling for it.

Originally posted by Digi
Makes sense. Thor can't harm Doop, but Havok wrecked him.

👆

Love me some Doop.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, it is a bit Sauron-esque, but I like it.

Nothing beats this depiction of Galactus, though:

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

NEW AVENGERS #18
JONATHAN HICKMAN (W) • VALERIO SCHITI (A)
Cover by DUSTIN WEAVER
• In all of creation, only one Earth has successfully met and triumphed over each Incursion that has threatened it: the Earth of the heroes of the Great Society!
• Guess which Earth is on a collision course with ours?

Illuminati vs. Justice League? Should be interesting.

Will look at this when it comes out, and is that greeb frog like being supposed to be MM? AHAHA

Supes 'vs.' PG:

__________

Zauriel's wings clipped:

__________

Lulz:

Headbutt, ftw!

White Tiger stomps pretty much everyone(inc. Lord Rand):

'cept Photon, of course 🙂:

Originally posted by psycho gundam
things just have to be more cut n dry, these mega elaborate fights are hard to judge so it's better for weaker characters in these things. the last tournament to finish was the one you "won" so it's testament to the notion that weak characters are best for today's judges

ps. Ultimo is clearly stronger than iron man level, in fact you even posted him fighting various IM all at once , something I found AFTER the initial phases of drafting. dark angel is a legit low herald

Simpler tournies could help. Agreed there. But that isn't the only problem. It's still an uphill battle. But like I said, best of luck.

Agreed about Ultimo's strength, but he's a one-trick pony. Big, tough, and not much else. IM is above him on versatility, as are others in the tier, but not because of brawler capability. Newer versions of IM have handled Ultimo's best fairly well, feats that others have brought up in the tourney. Outside of Hulk and maybe 1-2 others, it's very, very hard for what amounts to a pure brick to be considered any level of herald.

And you may be right about Angel. But she has a lot of bad showings as well. I just had the benefit of drafting someone not many others knew about. The point of drafts are to push limits, though. Not cheat - nothing I do is ever willfully duplicitous - but to get as much as I can given the rules of the tourney. If my picks give people that itchy "they might be in the higher tier" feeling, it just means I'm doing my job. And if you're complaining about Ultimo/Havok, it's not like I was picking obscure characters. If they're low herald, how did they get past 12 or so participants and judges who are well-versed in these characters? I knew Angel might be too much, though, but I knew she'd be close either way. But I had other options. The point was her particular power set, and how it amped Havok and covered my other weaknesses, not her starting power level.

I get that you hold a grudge for whatever reason, but I've always tried to be up front about this stuff. The main draw of my amalgam was the way I complimented and amped them, not the individual parts. The point of it was to find specific powers that meshed well. The exact starting power level of each character was somewhat ancillary. Other characters would have filled in nicely had any of these been banned.

If you want to continue this, though, we should probably do so via PM. I'm tired of publicly defending myself after we had weeks to dispute picks in the tourney, after the tourney is over, and in an unrelated thread where you decided to drag us into this after I made a joking comment. Because now we're arguing about something that should be a lot less contentious, and reminding everyone why what should be one of the coolest things we do on the forums have, in the last 4 years or so, been very little outside of petty squabbling and outsider apathy.

The Exitar fiasco(part 1):

The Exitar fiasco(part 2):

...Didn't see that coming. mmm

Photon has been a beast lately.

Originally posted by carver9
Photon has been a beast lately.

She's always been. Well aside from the times her powers would act up...

Originally posted by Galan007
Supes 'vs.' PG:

This was written by Pak, Carver is going to love it.

if power girl talks she can split the world and Superman contains her WORLD BREAKER POWER GIRL 😆

Originally posted by Galan007
The Exitar fiasco(part 2):

...Didn't see that coming. mmm

😐

Obviously Reed is at fault for letting Tony use some crappy Doom-made inventions awesr

Originally posted by Galan007
The Exitar fiasco(part 2):

...Didn't see that coming. mmm

Huh, not bad. Glad to see they didn't job Exitar and that Earth stood no chance.

It was a mistake to trust Hulk. I feel betrayed.

Hulk>>>machine.