Originally posted by -Pr-
...I don't see how that's at all a useful comparison unless you're somehow implying that DC would ever do to Superman would ever do to Superman what was done to say, Thor.==
but yeah, Verheiden's run wanked Superman as hard as almost any other writer. It's not a good place to start. And there's the underlying context of Maxwell Lord too.
If by "underlying context of Max Lord" you're trying to say Superman was more restrained with Lucia Blackrock than with the one he baked, afraid of himself after "Sacrifice" and how he lost control with his friends and Wonder Woman, I'll accept that as plausible. The idea that he was more restrained with "Easy Baked" Blackrock than Kara was with Lucia, though?
Not so much.
Regarding Verheiden, someone who wanks Superman is arguably the BEST place to start, because if that writer has a well-established reputation for doing so, it's even more impressive if someone is given the nod over Clark by him.
The point with Barack was that there was not any truly legitimate reason person A could not perform job X, only political and social barriers to them doing so.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Jessica holds 1/8th of the mass of entire planet. It's near the limit of an emerald construct.Superman vs Wonder Woman.
Even a kryptonite affected Superman is too much for her.
This is just weird.
How was he too much for her?
She had him in a hold that he only broke through because of Bizzaro. Besides that, she only hit once and vise versa (Except her attacks seemed to rock him a **** TON more, he looked laid out as she casually strolls over).
It was the definition of an inconclusive back and forth where one is possessed and the other is trying to snap them out of it. Saying he was too much for her even with Kryptonite (Which is hilarious because I've seen you go on and on how resistant he is to Kryptonite and a single pellet in broad daylight that doesn't even slow him down is a factor?) is like Carver saying Superman (Even augmented with magic) and with the help of Bizzaro is unable to put Wonder Woman down. I don't even like Wonder Woman but common...
Smh.
^I also think it's funny how Philo adds a caveat that Wonder Woman got "a good shot in" while Superman is in monologue mode (Fight's started fool and the Demon's clearly don't shut up) casually ignoring him trying to heat vision her face off in the same page.
I don't even particularly care, I just think it's pretty funny that these two are here bright and early playing damage control. It's like a press release for Donald Trump when he does something stupid. Do you guys get paid or something?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But in this story,the Kryptonite affected him enough to let Batman affect him sneer.
He threw a pellet or whatever that knocked them down for a panel, Batman didn't do anything else.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He saved WW, lol.Whilst being a puny human - that's Supes and Bizarro, after all.
It enabled her to catch her breath.
Moreover, IQ against magic, and a creation of the gods, who has met and been an actual goddess herself...rates Batman higher lol.
Good time to be a Bats fan 👆
Can we both agree that Batman is awesome, Wonder Woman is lame and Superman is a weak-willed cuck?
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
If by "underlying context of Max Lord" you're trying to say Superman was more restrained with Lucia Blackrock than with the one he baked, afraid of himself after "Sacrifice" and how he lost control with his friends and Wonder Woman, I'll accept that as plausible. The idea that he was more restrained with "Easy Baked" Blackrock than Kara was with Lucia, though?
Not so much.Regarding Verheiden, someone who wanks Superman is arguably the BEST place to start, because if that writer has a well-established reputation for doing so, it's even more impressive if someone is given the nod over Clark by him.
The point with Barack was that there was not any truly legitimate reason person A could not perform job X, only political and social barriers to them doing so.
Verheiden's arc would be fine (and he does have some really nice insights in to the character), and it is... As long as you're not including anything that happened under Lord's influence, as it renders it moot.
You are right to a point: Supergirl could do 90% of Superman's job. Bank robberies, muggings, Metallo running wild. You can do all of that, sure. But that's not why Superman is as important as he is.
What makes Kara more deserving than him? I'm genuinely asking. Is she more powerful? I think trying to argue that she is, is a losing battle considering Superman's batting average against the big guns. Do you think she'd have better stories? Do you think she's a more compelling character?
I'm genuinely curious what makes her more worthy. Or do you just fancy a change?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is just weird.How was he too much for her?
He is beating her down and she is only saved by Zatanna removing Deadman from him?
She had him in a hold that he only broke through because of Bizzaro. Besides that, she only hit once and vise versa (Except her attacks seemed to rock him a **** TON more, he looked laid out as she casually strolls over).
Hey moron, kryptonite is for just that, to weaken Superman.
If her attacks were too much, it wouldn't need for Zatanna to save her.
She also attacked him with her sword where he was beating her down with his bare hands.
It was the definition of an inconclusive back and forth where one is possessed and the other is trying to snap them out of it. Saying he was too much for her even with Kryptonite (Which is hilarious because I've seen you go on and on how resistant he is to Kryptonite and a single pellet in broad daylight that doesn't even slow him down is a factor?) is like Carver saying Superman (Even augmented with magic) and with the help of Bizzaro is unable to put Wonder Woman down. I don't even like Wonder Woman but common...
Bizarro didn't even fight Diana.
But hey tell us how back and forth it was that Zatanna had to come in and save her.
Kryptonite is a plot device, it can weaken Superman alot or play as mere nuisance.
Smh.
You're always so transparent rage. Did Wonder Woman castrating Thor on Death battle caused you such pain?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt's only weird if you're dumb.
This is just weird.How was he too much for her?
He was punching her around at will, while mocking the fact that she was tired.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHe was engaging Batman, and she jumped on his back.
She had him in a hold that he only broke through because of Bizzaro.
Bizarro had nothing to do with escaping 'the hold', he headbutted her, you blind moron.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusSo you can't even count?
Besides that, she only hit once and vise versa (
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't even particularly care
Lmao.
You're like a schoolgirl, playing it off that she got her feelings hurt.
Stay salty.
😂
Yeah, now I can just marvel at how Rage's brain works.
Anyway back to ownage.
Originally posted by Philosophía
My condolences, Damborg."Diana uses her lasso to wrap around Thor's wrist, makes him hit himself in the head with his hammer, and while he's stunned, stabs her sword into the back of his head and says "you're not worthy" before pulling it out."
Originally posted by Philosophía
https://i.imgur.com/5uCoYUj.jpg
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusWW rocked him and he didn't defeat her at all. It is damage control. Philo and Abhi are riled up.
^I also think it's funny how Philo adds a caveat that Wonder Woman got "a good shot in" while Superman is in monologue mode (Fight's started fool and the Demon's clearly don't shut up) casually ignoring him trying to heat vision her face off in the same page.I don't even particularly care, I just think it's pretty funny that these two are here bright and early playing damage control. It's like a press release for Donald Trump when he does something stupid. Do you guys get paid or something?
He threw a pellet or whatever that knocked them down for a panel, Batman didn't do anything else.
