Character Ownage

Iron man held Collective at bay? No he didnt, he got stripped of his armor right away. Then binary tried to fight collective (you know, herald binary) and got taken out EASILY.

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Originally posted by Survivor19
I guess for you claim to be valid you should show us panels where he got his armor stripped, not after that.

http://img96.imageshack.us/i/untitledscanned07081wq.jpg/

I don't have the New Avengers arc downloaded on my PC at the moment, but I'm pretty sure it was made quite clear that the only reason Sentry was doing that well was because the Collective was inexperienced.

Also, wouldn't the strip of armor be the same power he used once to BFR Sentry really far away?
Pretty much TK

Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually later Iron Man did hold him at bay

Whats the point of this since we both know that collective can EASILY beat iron man if he wanted to?

Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't have the New Avengers arc downloaded on my PC at the moment, but I'm pretty sure it was made quite clear that the only reason Sentry was doing that well was because the Collective was inexperienced.

Correct, and lets be honest to the Sentry vs. Collective fight wasn't anything special.

Originally posted by carver9
Whats the point of this since we both know that collective can EASILY beat iron man if he wanted to?

Iron Man was able to regroup and knew more about the sitution and was able to counter Collective when prior he was even trying to talk to the Collective.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't have the New Avengers arc downloaded on my PC at the moment, but I'm pretty sure it was made quite clear that the only reason Sentry was doing that well was because the Collective was inexperienced.

Where did it say that at?

Originally posted by carver9
Whats the point of this since we both know that collective can EASILY beat iron man if he wanted to?

And, if you don't see the point of it, then uh dunno what to say, oh I know...

Raw power purposes

Originally posted by -K-M-
Correct, and lets be honest to the Sentry vs. Collective fight wasn't anything special.

Him holding his own made it impressive whereas noone else really stood a chance against him.

Originally posted by carver9
Him holding his own made it impressive whereas noone else really stood a chance against him.

Iron Man did, and the Collective beat Alpha Flight when their guard was done as noted. Heck, even Llan was responsible for AF's deaths.

Originally posted by Blanket
What's the point of bringing up Sentry when we both know Collective can beat him easily if he wanted to?

And, if you don't see the point of it, then uh dunno what to say, oh I know...

Raw power purposes

LOL, where are you getting that collective can beat him easily? Why did Collective kill/took everyone out easily but his only chance against sentry was to bfr him?

Originally posted by carver9
Where did it say that at?

Would you like me to tell you the panel from memory, fellow Superman fan ?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Iron Man did, and the Collective beat Alpha Flight when their guard was done as noted. Heck, even Llan was responsible for AF's deaths.

And I posted a scan of Iron man being taken out in two panels and it also showed that Ironman powers didnt have any kind of affect on the collective.

If ironman lasted more then two panels then its pis due to previous showings.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I just said I don't have the arc at hand.

Would you like me to tell you the panel from memory, fellow Superman fan ?

LOL, you dont have to and stop being sarcastic phil.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, where are you getting that collective can beat him easily? Why did Collective kill/took everyone out easily but his only chance against sentry was to bfr him?

But when both actually fought him, he didn't look like the all powerful skyfather that he seemed to be... tbh, I have no idea of how that word and him mix. Especially when looking at his Iron Man battle.

Originally posted by carver9
And I posted a scan of Iron man being taken out in two panels and it also showed that Ironman powers didnt have any kind of affect on the collective.

If ironman lasted more then two panels then its pis due to previous showings.

Or the fact as noted he regrouped and learned more about the Collective so he could counter.

Originally posted by Blanket
Because he easily BFR'ed him, just like he easily 'BFR'ed' Iron Man (he took the suit away if I have to explain myself)?
Same shit.

But when both actually fought him, he didn't look like the all powerful skyfather that he seemed to be... tbh, I have no idea of how that word and him mix. Especially when looking at his Iron Man battle.

I cant remember the Iron man battle but again, the guy had the powers of every mutant in Mday and he appeared unstoppable.

Could someone post the iron man fight.

Originally posted by carver9
I cant remember the Iron man battle but again, the guy had the powers of every mutant in Mday and he appeared unstoppable.

Could someone post the iron man fight.

Collective as noted wasnt tapping into his full potential.