Character Ownage

Errrr? Its pretty clear MM isn't at his Secret Wars powerlevel anymore.

Originally posted by Blanket
Surfer/Terrax - Page four of Surfer's respect thread (right underneath is Surfer owning Rune w IG)

will look for Thor/Terrax

Thanks

Originally posted by -K-M-
Errrr? Its pretty clear MM isn't at his Secret Wars powerlevel anymore.

What make you say that?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Errrr? Its pretty clear MM isn't at his Secret Wars powerlevel anymore.

Yeah plus SW MM stated taht he isn't even close to the beyonder himself

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Yeah plus SW MM stated taht he isn't even close to the beyonder himself

I dont think he is close to beyonder either BUT he had enough power to stalemate him which would put him above ANY sky father.

Originally posted by carver9
What make you say that?

Because Marvel has said so, and MM has been beaten by Captain America, Thor made him run off crying with a broken nose and Im pretty sure Klaw even beat him too.

Originally posted by Blanket
Since I can't post links, I'll actually look for the scans and tell you the page since I'm always in the mood for a carver version.

Is this the fight you're referring to?

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/NewWarriors017-12.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/NewWarriors017-13.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/NewWarriors017-16.jpg

Thor/Terrax - page 7 of his respect thread

Any way, we have the absorbing man that drained thor before and had a good time doing it.

He ADMITS that he NEVER felt power like that before.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r56/Cypher69/CW%20The%20Return/Civil_War_-_The_Return_001_019.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Like I said, its still a good feat that he controlled the crunch and its the surfer, I honestly think he can contol ALL energy BUT he didnt defeat them under his own power.

Just look at his fight when he fought aegis solo; he got crushed.

And yes, that is the fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Any way, we have the absorbing man that drained thor before and had a good time doing it.

He ADMITS that he NEVER felt power like that before.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r56/Cypher69/CW%20The%20Return/Civil_War_-_The_Return_001_019.jpg

And using statements like that pretty much make rookie Quasar above Thor since Thor never overloaded him.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Because Marvel has said so, and MM has been beaten by Captain America, Thor made him run off crying with a broken nose and Im pretty sure Klaw even beat him too.

The same way sentry did and even if so EVERY character has a low showing but Sentry beat him at his own game.

Can you show me where marvel said this?

I KIND OF believe you about thor, he has some of the best feats out of every high herald that I can think of.

Originally posted by Blanket
Absorbing Man has never absorbed Thor and Mjolnir at the same time.

But he has felt the power of both and again, absorbing man said that he NEVER felt power like that before.

Originally posted by carver9
What make you say that?

Originally posted by Blanket
Again, that was not Surfer's only example.
As well as, he did defeat them controlling the energy of the universe in a severely weakened state. You wanted Skyfather aboves getting beaten.

And yes, that is the fight.

OMG, you just dont get it.

Originally posted by carver9
The same way sentry did and even if so EVERY character has a low showing but Sentry beat him at his own game.

Can you show me where marvel said this?

I KIND OF believe you about thor, he has some of the best feats out of every high herald that I can think of.

Which is impressive, but he wasn't at Beyonder level

Several interviews, SW was retconned and MM comments as his powerlevel like Sentry depends on his mindset. Even Beyonder has been drastically reduced powerwise from his Secret War days.

It happened.

Originally posted by carver9
But he has felt the power of both and again, absorbing man said that he NEVER felt power like that before.

K. Sentry is clearly above Thor then... is what you're saying?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Which is impressive, but he wasn't at Beyonder level

Several interviews, SW was retconned and MM comments as his powerlevel like Sentry depends on his mindset. Even Beyonder has been drastically reduced powerwise from his Secret War days.

It happened.

Ok, I remember that, my bad, had a lost of memory on that.

MM was never on beyonders level.

I believed you about thor because his feats sometimes put HIM at skyfather levels (fighting celestials, galactus, etc...) so I'm not arguing against that.

Originally posted by Blanket
Ya, and Mjolnir doesn't equal Thor as a whole, and Thor doesn't even equal Thor as a whole. Thor with Mjolnir does.

K. Sentry is clearly above Thor then... is what you're saying?

Its going to pain me to say this about Thor buuuuuuuutttttt, I dont know. Again, sometimes, thor is in his own league. Powerwise and from what sentry has showed and done, its a possibility that he could be above thor, it just depends on Thor mood because thor has feats alone that also puts him in the skyfather level of power if he wants to be.

Originally posted by carver9
OMG, you just dont get it.

I realize what the T/A fight is. Not fully Surfer's power. Throwaway it is not (especially when you're using examples where AM says his power is great).