Character Ownage

Started by Bentley5,121 pages

Ouch, Rage laying the smack down.

Your next. uhuh

I like your sig. It'd be fun to see those three team up to take down Cap, Thor and Iron Man along with the Avengers.

restrained by "breakable" metal?

Originally posted by ankur29

restrained by "breakable" metal?


what comic is that from? so one example which contracts numerous great.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your next. uhuh

I like your sig. It'd be fun to see those three team up to take down Cap, Thor and Iron Man along with the Avengers.

Yep, strangely enough I don't think they've actually met each other? I mean, Kang and Ultron 11 were in the Secret Wars but Loki wasn't.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
what comic is that from? so one example which contracts numerous great.
WWH mini. Captain American vs Wolverine#2

I can't recall exact correct title placement.

R.I.P Colossus-Big C 🙁

Originally posted by vansonbee
WWH mini. Captain American vs Wolverine#2

I can't recall exact correct title placement.


thanks I new that seemed familiar. That event took place took pretty far into the past right? prior to wolverine being in weapon x and bucky was winter soldier a brain washed assassin if not mistaken right?

His claws seemed to be made into Adamantium from what I recall. I didn't read the story and just flipped through it. Looked boring.

Why does the metal not being indestructible matter?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
His claws seemed to be made into Adamantium from what I recall. I didn't read the story and just flipped through it. Looked boring.

Why does the metal not being indestructible matter?


they looked to be but they werent. They were bone claws the event took place prior to weapon x if not mistaken I think it even mention.

he was taking a jab becuase wolverine has several feats of break out of shacks, chains ect. consider unbreakable or stated to be through raw strength.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
they looked to be but they werent. They were bone claws the event took place prior to weapon x if not mistaken I think it even mention.

he was taking a jab becuase wolverine has several feats of break out of shacks, chains ect. consider unbreakable or stated to be through raw strength.

Well they certainly seemed to be Adamantium. I can't tell you about whether or not he had gone through his Weapon X process. Didn't read the actual story.

Well clearly they weren't unbreakable. During these instances, was there any specific metal names given to the shackles etc.?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well they certainly seemed to be Adamantium. I can't tell you about whether or not he had gone through his Weapon X process. Didn't read the actual story.

Well clearly they weren't unbreakable. During these instances, was there any specific metal names given to the shackles etc.?


I agree it deffiently looks like it. But time line wises it really shouldent be possible. There 50/50 shot.

There not unbreakable because they broke but the people were quite surprised by the fact they broke. There in the respect thread if you want to take a look. They were both given names I believe. That incident posted goes quite against the norm, though at least makes a little more senses if it was prior to weapon x but even still it controdicts numerous times of him effortlessly breaking such restraints.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I agree it deffiently looks like it. But time line wises it really shouldent be possible. There 50/50 shot.

There not unbreakable because they broke but the people were quite surprised by the fact they broke. There in the respect thread if you want to take a look. They were both given names I believe. That incident posted goes quite against the norm, though at least makes a little more senses if it was prior to weapon x but even still it controdicts numerous times of him effortlessly breaking such restraints.

Wolverine breaking shackles forged out of the hardest steel money could buy with great stress, and out of "chromalloy" shackles doesn't mean that the WWH comic "contradicted a great number of other examples". I'm assuming those were the examples you had in mind when you posted that. It also doesn't mean that Wolverine being restrained by a metal that's broken by an outside force is automatically a bad showing; which is the way you seem to be taking it.

I mean, it's not as if anyone actually believes it takes nigh unbreakable metal to restrain Wolverine. I guess you could argue that the blowtorch explosion destroying them means they weren't much more than regular steel, but I'm not sure you knew that. Whatever. Just trying to understand what your main problem here is.

Edit: Continue this tomorrow.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wolverine breaking shackles forged out of the hardest steel money could buy with great stress, and out of "chromalloy" shackles doesn't mean that the WWH comic "contradicted a great number of other examples". I'm assuming those were the examples you had in mind when you posted that. It also doesn't mean that Wolverine being restrained by a metal that's broken by an outside force is automatically a bad showing; which is the way you seem to be taking it.

I mean, it's not as if anyone actually believes it takes nigh unbreakable metal to restrain Wolverine. I guess you could argue that the blowtorch explosion destroying them means they weren't much more than regular steel, but I'm not sure you knew that. Whatever. Just trying to understand what your main problem here is.

Edit: Continue this tomorrow.


yes it does, thoses metal were suposes to be extremely durable and he broke both and yet he couldent get out of simple metal restraints? Thoses arnt even closes to all the examples of him break out of such straints. In respect thread alone there like 6 feats of him doing similar things. I could name another 5 rather easily and I could find many more with just a bit of effort. That event is clearly in the minority. I also dont consider two examples a great number.

I never said it did, but takes far more then simple metal restraints. Really your not sure I new that? did you miss the part were I said i read it again? it not dl on my computer or anything............or what you like me to start quoting it for you?

I dont really have a problem I responded to another poster and you ask why and I told you. If you want to continue it tommarrow, I honestly dont care becuases I know for a fact I have vastly more example the support my side.

also the reason I wonder if it was before or after weapon x is becauses during weapon x he recieved enhancements to his strength and I not talking about his adamatium skeleton.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Well clearly they weren't unbreakable. During these instances, was there any specific metal names given to the shackles etc.?

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no one try to state or imply there were truely unbreakable like adamatium or some such, simply that they are much more durable then standard steel.

Probably Clevinger didn't watched closely Wolvie's continuity. Still, the issue mostly revolved about Logan's feats and was quite flattering for him.

Originally posted by Bentley
Probably Clevinger didn't watched closely Wolvie's continuity. Still, the issue mostly revolved about Logan's feats and was quite flattering for him.

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surely the good feats for logan in that comic must be as inacacurate as logan being unable to break those chains

Chicago incident with Winter Soldier took place before Weapon X, it was even stated.

About Wolverine's claws... artist made a mistake and was too lazy to correct it. If you take a closer look you'll notice they were depicted as both metal and bone in issue 2 😂 I dunno, seems like the editor noticed that and told him they should be made of bone. But he didn't bother to correct the earlier pages.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
yes it does, thoses metal were suposes to be extremely durable and he broke both and yet he couldent get out of simple metal restraints? Thoses arnt even closes to all the examples of him break out of such straints. In respect thread alone there like 6 feats of him doing similar things. I could name another 5 rather easily and I could find many more with just a bit of effort. That event is clearly in the minority. I also dont consider two examples a great number.

Has Wolverine never been shown to be restrained or at least strained by a metal not described as indestructible or incredibly durable in the past?

The hardest forged steel money could buy and chromalloy -lulz- scenes don't mean that any seen Wolverine is shown to be restrained by something not described as "SUPER TOUGH!" is a bad showing. Thor's broken out of Adamantium Alloy restraints and shattered Uru, but if I see him chained in an alien spaceship without any description about the metal restraining him, I'm not going to cry foul. Something similar happened to Bill actually I believe. I'm not sure whether that's your stance on the situation. Which is what I'm trying to figure out. If it is, I just think it's somewhat....illogical. No one is going to start claiming Wolverine isn't strong because he couldn't destroy unknown alloy of steel.

Those are the two you referenced. Those are the two I went by. So Wolverine has other scenes where he breaks out of restraints that are described as nigh unbreakable? I'm simply curious at this point.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I never said it did, but takes far more then simple metal restraints. Really your not sure I new that? did you miss the part were I said i read it again? it not dl on my computer or anything............or what you like me to start quoting it for you?

I dont really have a problem I responded to another poster and you ask why and I told you. If you want to continue it tommarrow, I honestly dont care becuases I know for a fact I have vastly more example the support my side.

also the reason I wonder if it was before or after weapon x is becauses during weapon x he recieved enhancements to his strength and I not talking about his adamatium skeleton.

So if his shackled and the metal isn't described as super enhanced steel, it's a bad showing? Like I said, I can understand why you're bitching about this scene as a blowtorch explosion melted/destroyed them. Just want to know your stance.

I'm not - wasn't. I didn't see anything that would indicate you'd have had to read the entire second issue. I'm not going to automatically assume you did either. The fact that you were unsure as to where the scan came from also helped push my assumption. But whatever. This is f*cking stupid. I'm not going to argue something this baseless.

From my perspective, I saw you automatically jump on that showing because Wolverine was being restrained by metal of an unknown alloy. Probably because the metal wasn't described as "unbreakable" or supertough. I just don't agree with that kind of stance. I guess -or I'm hoping- you assumed it was regular steel. That might explain your reaction.

Go ahead quote yourself. I apparently can't find any such instance where you said that.

So you want to stop here? Fine, this will be my last post on the matter. I don't read enough Wolverine -or at least care enough- to find multiple instances where we're shown his restrained.