Nihilus Maul and Vader vs Revan Sion and Malak

Nihilus without his eating ability is weak boy, we have nothing to judge his powers by. The fight against the Exile was when he was weakened. Logically he would have been as powerful as the Exile was at the end of the Mandelorian wars if he didn't have his eating ability.

meaning he would get pwned, by Sion Revan or Malak fairly easily. Revan when he didn't have his memory still managed to fight Malak and live. He would pwn Nihilus, while Malak easily takes care of Vader and Maul or maybe he will let Sion take care of one of them just to make everybody do something.

Keep in mind that revan is not at full power so 160% of sidious should be enough to beat the much weaker version of him. and then once ani beats weaker revan, maul would be dead by now and nihilius would be losing against sion, and ani would fight malak and would eventually win, nihilus is dead, and then its sion vs ani. if ani is not too tired ani can win, keep in mind sion aint indestructible in this one.

edit - Vader(full potential) if hes using darkside he will never get tired so he wins.

Full potential again? *slaps forehead*

stop with this full potential it never happens so why debate it ffs

yeh sorry about that

its ok

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
There actually is no basis for that. Full potential Anakin according to Lucas is only 60% more powerful than Sidious, meaning Revan's team still wins.

Sion would still take Nihilus, Revan would take Maul, and Malak would be able to fight Anakin off for a very long time until Sion and Revan come help and Anakin goes down.

Why would Sion take Nihilus... what have you got to base that on apart from the fact you thought he was "harder" than Nihilus. If I remember correctly not only was Nihilus in a state of shock but you also had a very skilled duellist with you (Visas) as well and Mandalore. Now fighting two opponents, while blocking bolts from another one is far from easy, so I think we can understand why in the end Nihilus 'seemed' slightly easier, but in the end if you'd fought them both in the same circumstances, and Sion was without his indestructibility then Nihilus would be a much harder foe.

And all that is irrelevant anyway when we consider the cut content where we see, as I said before, Nihilus throw Sion around like a rag doll. He totally overpowers him. Sion threatens him and Nihilus just raises a hand and owns that corpse. That proves how much more powerful Nihilus is than Sion.

RevanVader said - “What woulda happened if Revan fought Nihilus, Malak fights Vader, and Sion on Maul?"

Revan against Nihilus? Revan has this. Maybe a bit a trouble but I have no doubt he'll win this. Oh and you have to level up 17 times because otherwise the game wouldn't be much fun. If you started on level 17 on Taris then not only would there be no way to improve as you start to become a Jedi, but you would also have to face Sith Lord level opponents. It's not because memory wiped Revan isn't as powerful. What is it that Malak says to him on the Star Forge? I can't remember exaclty, but it's something about how he's even more powerful as he was during his reign as dark lord. That about sums it up.

Malak against Vader? Malak has this. You have to look at who mecha-Vader fought and how he fought them. While Malak fought countless numbers of Jedi and beat them all (save Revan) mecha-Vader didn't really fight anyone but Luke. Don't even compare Malak's disability to Vader's. Malak's in no way hinders his duelling ability, while Vader's takes away all his agility.

Sion against Maul? Maul will probably give him quite a hard time, but Sion has this, even without his indestructibility.

So as I said, team Revan takes this, whatever way you look at it.

AnaNih, I wasn't the one who based Sion vs. Nihilus on gameplay, that was someother guy. It's more of backround knowledge on each character that makes me think Sion is better. Also note that when Nihilus defeated Sion, it was with his force drain ability that he doesn't have during this fight.

I agree with you though, Revan's team wins, mainly because of Malak.

Can someone explain to me why Sith Lords of Nihilus/Sion/Revan's time are more powerful than later Sith Lords, even Anakin at full potential?

Originally posted by Captain REX
Can someone explain to me why Sith Lords of Nihilus/Sion/Revan's time are more powerful than later Sith Lords, even Anakin at full potential?

I have no answer for them being more powerful than Anakin at full potental since we have no idea what Anakin at full potential is. But as for KOTOR Era and before being more powerful its because they seemed to preform greater feats of power and plus the Ancient Jedi/Sith were always at war. This era was classifed as the Old Sith Wars. Hell guys like Marka Ragnos would walk all over any Sith Lord from the movies.

Supposedly Anakin's full potential would take him up above anyone else of his time and beforehand. IMO, anyways...

Hmm, alright. Always being at war doesn't seem to be anything that would contribute to their power, just skill in combat. I could see Marka Ragnos doing that, though.

Originally posted by Knuckles X 20
its nihilus without the force eating making him balanced and sion without the extended lfe and kotor 1 ungained knowledge revan ill take team vader

That Nihilus even has such a power is ridiculous. The Force isn't food. EU makes the Force seem too 'magical' and such. The closest it got to in the movies was the lightning. Everything else made more sense than storms and freezing and eating...

I think the idea is that it's a lightsaber duel between the six, not a match of power.

i think nihilus would get pwned quickly...then its maul and vader, (put your outcome here)

Malak is at least as good as Dooku though and we saw how easily he pwned Obi-wan, who is better than either Maul or Vader. Sion is a match for Nihilus and Revan can help where needed. It's simple, really.

Originally posted by calvin44
i think nihilus would get pwned quickly...then its maul and vader, (put your outcome here)

Vader would win...again.

this is a bit one-sided duel dont you think, its like godzilla vs the ants.

Originally posted by Fishy
Nihilus without his eating ability is weak boy, we have nothing to judge his powers by. The fight against the Exile was when he was weakened. Logically he would have been as powerful as the Exile was at the end of the Mandelorian wars if he didn't have his eating ability.

meaning he would get pwned, by Sion Revan or Malak fairly easily. Revan when he didn't have his memory still managed to fight Malak and live. He would pwn Nihilus, while Malak easily takes care of Vader and Maul or maybe he will let Sion take care of one of them just to make everybody do something.

Wrong. Nihilus absolutely curbstomped Sion in the cut content. Nihilus' attack smashes Sion back about forty feet. It completely dissolves some of the bridge crewmembers and leaves Sion limping away.

Nihilus could beat the living daylights out of Sion and then take on Malak and Revan.

Vader and Maul die within seconds.

Interesting

Originally posted by Darth Traya

Nihilus could beat the living daylights out of Sion and then take on Malak and Revan.

And then Nihilus would die...assuming he does not have his force eating ability. Revan himself would pwn Nihlius without the force eating crap.