Nihilus Maul and Vader vs Revan Sion and Malak

Originally posted by Fishy
Nihilus without his eating ability is weak boy, we have nothing to judge his powers by. The fight against the Exile was when he was weakened. Logically he would have been as powerful as the Exile was at the end of the Mandelorian wars if he didn't have his eating ability.

meaning he would get pwned, by Sion Revan or Malak fairly easily. Revan when he didn't have his memory still managed to fight Malak and live. He would pwn Nihilus, while Malak easily takes care of Vader and Maul or maybe he will let Sion take care of one of them just to make everybody do something.

I wouldn't say Nihilus was weak without his force eating ability.

As Traya said above, he totally pwns Sion.
He is also, when weakend, able to give the Exile, Mandalore and Visas a hard fight. And yes the fight was pretty hard, Visas doubted they could win and needed to act as bait for him to focus his power on her, note the line "he is to powerful".

And why do you think he, at the hight of his power is equal to the Exile at the end of the Mandalorian wars? We have no proof that he is a part of the Exile (or whatever you guys thought out) and has alot different teachings aside from the Exile.

Revan could pwn Nihilus, Maul and Vader on his own if he wanted to.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Wrong. Nihilus absolutely curbstomped Sion in the cut content. Nihilus' attack smashes Sion back about forty feet. It completely dissolves some of the bridge crewmembers and leaves Sion limping away.

Nihilus could beat the living daylights out of Sion and then take on Malak and Revan.

Vader and Maul die within seconds.

Originally posted by D_CP
Revan could pwn Nihilus, Maul and Vader on his own if he wanted to.

Originally posted by calvin44
this must be a joke. am i right?

Nope. In the cut content, Nihilus does just that.

Not with a lightsaber, though. If this fight is a matter of sheer strength in the Force, Nihilus would win the battle for his side rather quickly. He is amazingly strong, though maybe not moreso than Vader at full potential (which he never reaches anyways, so we'll never know!). Maul would be dancing around hacking at people, Vader would be performing power blows and random throws and such, and Nihilus would suddenly just knock everyone flat.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Wrong. Nihilus absolutely curbstomped Sion in the cut content. Nihilus' attack smashes Sion back about forty feet. It completely dissolves some of the bridge crewmembers and leaves Sion limping away.

Nihilus could beat the living daylights out of Sion and then take on Malak and Revan.

Vader and Maul die within seconds.

That is exactly what I said earlier in this thread. Why dont people listen to me?

Nihilus destroys Sion everytime. When they betrayed Traya I have no doubt that it was Nihilus' idea, and Sion just tagged along because he was to scared to do otherwise. Nihilus felt like a true Sith lord, while Sion felt more like a slightly more difficult than usual dark Jedi. That's just my opinion though, although it is fact that Nihilus is stronger.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Nope. In the cut content, Nihilus does just that.

Not with a lightsaber, though. If this fight is a matter of sheer strength in the Force, Nihilus would win the battle for his side rather quickly. He is amazingly strong, though maybe not moreso than Vader at full potential (which he never reaches anyways, so we'll never know!). Maul would be dancing around hacking at people, Vader would be performing power blows and random throws and such, and Nihilus would suddenly just knock everyone flat.

Originally posted by AnakinNihilus
That is exactly what I said earlier in this thread. Why dont people listen to me?

Nihilus destroys Sion everytime. When they betrayed Traya I have no doubt that it was Nihilus' idea, and Sion just tagged along because he was to scared to do otherwise. Nihilus felt like a true Sith lord, while Sion felt more like a slightly more difficult than usual dark Jedi. That's just my opinion though, although it is fact that Nihilus is stronger.

well then why does sion get faced much later in the game, as a higher boss, if he is weaker?

Originally posted by calvin44
enough with the fanboyism.

It's not fanboyism, it's the truth.

Originally posted by D_CP
It's not fanboyism, it's the truth.

Revan probably could actually beat all three of them at his peak. He's twice as powerful as Malak, who is slightly more powerful than Dooku. Maul and Vader together would lose to Dooku, so they would also lose to Malak and thus Revan with ease. Nihilus is weaker than Malak because Malak was the DLOS and thus stronger. Since Malak is stronger then Nihilus and another Malak is stronger than Maul and Vader, 2 Malak > Maul, Nihilus and Vader and Revan > 2 Malak. So Revan > Nihilus, Vader, and Maul.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Revan probably could actually beat all three of them at his peak. He's twice as powerful as Malak, who is slightly more powerful than Dooku. Maul and Vader together would lose to Dooku, so they would also lose to Malak and thus Revan with ease. Nihilus is weaker than Malak because Malak was the DLOS and thus stronger. Since Malak is stronger then Nihilus and another Malak is stronger than Maul and Vader, 2 Malak > Maul, Nihilus and Vader and Revan > 2 Malak. So Revan > Nihilus, Vader, and Maul.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Revan probably could actually beat all three of them at his peak. He's twice as powerful as Malak, who is slightly more powerful than Dooku. Maul and Vader together would lose to Dooku, so they would also lose to Malak and thus Revan with ease. Nihilus is weaker than Malak because Malak was the DLOS and thus stronger. Since Malak is stronger then Nihilus and another Malak is stronger than Maul and Vader, 2 Malak > Maul, Nihilus and Vader and Revan > 2 Malak. So Revan > Nihilus, Vader, and Maul.

What utter nonsense, Glentract. I would have expected better from you.

Where on Earth does it state that Revan is twice as powerful as Malak? That's pure hyperbole and you know it.

If you want to play that game, then come on:

Nihilus was able to beat Traya and Traya could beat Revan, so Nihilus > Traya > Revan > Malak.

See Glentract? Bandying around numbers is silly.

Originally posted by calvin44
have you seen rots???anakin beats dooku.

Dooku deliberately threw the duel. Sidious told him to.

Well Revan could still probably pull it off, although the number logic is really strange.

Still on this thread, Nihilus doesn't have his eating ability. Which means that he isn't powerful. Visas acting as bait means nothing as Visas thought Nihilus would be more powerful then Ragnos. Without his eating ability he couldn't have done anything we have seen him do. He couldn't have taken out Sion like that he couldn't have taken out Kreia like that, and he sure as hell couldn't take out a planet filled with powerful Jedi. Nihilus is nothing if he can't eat. Literally.

Originally posted by Fishy
Well Revan could still probably pull it off, although the number logic is really strange.

Still on this thread, Nihilus doesn't have his eating ability. Which means that he isn't powerful. Visas acting as bait means nothing as Visas thought Nihilus would be more powerful then Ragnos. Without his eating ability he couldn't have done anything we have seen him do. He couldn't have taken out Sion like that he couldn't have taken out Kreia like that, and he sure as hell couldn't take out a planet filled with powerful Jedi. Nihilus is nothing if he can't eat. Literally.

Why couldn't he have taken out Sion or Traya? Substantiate.

Nihilus is a part of the Exile. When he left the Exile he was the Dark Side exile, meaning that he was at most as powerful as the Exile and at worst well a lot weaker. He wouldn't have had the power to defeat either Sion or Kreia with that power.

We also know that he needs to feed to become more powerful, if he doesn't eat he becomes weaker and weaker and weaker. To what we do not know, but without his eating ability he would be very weak after some time. Probably not all that long, even a planet filled with powerful Jedi and force sensitives couldn't take satisfy him for very long. He needs to feed to have power.

We also know he took out Kreia using his force eating ability. Now he could just have been very powerful when facing Sion, because he just ate. Or he could have started eating from Sion too. Whatever the case without his eating ability he wouldn't have defeated either one of them.

Originally posted by Fishy
Nihilus is a part of the Exile. When he left the Exile he was the Dark Side exile, meaning that he was at most as powerful as the Exile and at worst well a lot weaker. He wouldn't have had the power to defeat either Sion or Kreia with that power.

We also know that he needs to feed to become more powerful, if he doesn't eat he becomes weaker and weaker and weaker. To what we do not know, but without his eating ability he would be very weak after some time. Probably not all that long, even a planet filled with powerful Jedi and force sensitives couldn't take satisfy him for very long. He needs to feed to have power.

We also know he took out Kreia using his force eating ability. Now he could just have been very powerful when facing Sion, because he just ate. Or he could have started eating from Sion too. Whatever the case without his eating ability he wouldn't have defeated either one of them.

That last paragraph was filled with wild assumptions. It has not been proved that he took out Kreia with his force eating ability.

The author of the thread needs to clarify some points. Is this Nihilus at his full power? In that case, he would curbstomp everyone on Revan's team, including Revan.

"There are things within the force against which there is no defence" - Kreia.

She says this at the exact time Nihilus takes her out with a simple push or so it seems. After which she is unable to move, she is unable to draw her lightsaber to her... She doesn't have the force power to do so anymore.

Originally posted by Fishy
Nihilus is a part of the Exile. When he left the Exile he was the Dark Side exile, meaning that he was at most as powerful as the Exile and at worst well a lot weaker. He wouldn't have had the power to defeat either Sion or Kreia with that power.

We also know that he needs to feed to become more powerful, if he doesn't eat he becomes weaker and weaker and weaker. To what we do not know, but without his eating ability he would be very weak after some time. Probably not all that long, even a planet filled with powerful Jedi and force sensitives couldn't take satisfy him for very long. He needs to feed to have power.

We also know he took out Kreia using his force eating ability. Now he could just have been very powerful when facing Sion, because he just ate. Or he could have started eating from Sion too. Whatever the case without his eating ability he wouldn't have defeated either one of them.

Well there is one thing I don't get then.
Nihilus slapped around Sion like a ragdoll, still, he hadent drained him.
How do I know that? Because then Sion would die at once and would not be able to get his connection with the force back. Same for Kreia (except dying).

Where does it say that Nihilus is a dark Exile?