who could defeat NJO luke

I can play this game too. There is no reason to believe that the lightsaber was blue because of the Kaiburr Crystal was in it. Essentiail Guide to Chronology, Luke later experimented with putting peices of the crystal in his lightsaber. First point mutes your point, second is in my favor. Your turn.

And the lightsaber he used it with was noticeably far brighter with a more intensely lit blade. Since all he had was a shard and he never cut through a Slayer's armor, the point's moot

Reread TUF, he did cut through their armor several times. Also note that the brightness of a lightsaber does not mean the blade is more powerful. Point un-muted and back in my favor.

No. He goes under the armit, across the eye and through the eye. Next.

And also note the Kaibur Crystal itself made the blade more intense. Funny that. It was so intense and bright because of the Kaibur crystal. It was the same with the Lightwhip

All of those are armored. They were armored mask.

Prove that the Kaiburr crystal caused that.

Because we see another non-Kaiburr'd Lightsaber right beside it and Lumiya saying "So, you put the Kaiburr shard in your saber."
On first sight.

Interesting but did you not think maybe just maybe lumiya just sensed the power increase through the force, not the eyes

How do you sense a power increase to an object? Especially as Lumiya's lightwhip had the same qualities thanks to a shard she'd added

normal people can't, but if your a force user you can use the force to sense the power of a person, place, or thing, its part of the mysteries of the force

If that were true, a lot of things would've been different....ORder 66 for one

Not necessarily, It was only 1 Jedi vs thousands of Jango Fetts you could say, they were outmatched.

They wouldn't have been totally caught off guard by it

but it would make little difference, they might have killed more clones but the end would of been the same.

only the early stage arcs were anything like jango

I think he was merely judging how outnumbered the jedi were. These were very skilled soldiers and they were alot more than the jedi.

Fett could take him....Fett could take anybody!

Seriously tho, since you've said nothing about the fight, how it would go down or anything. I think Fett would take him down.

All he would need are a few ysalmiri and Luke is no different than anybody else. I'm not going to pretend it would be easy but Fett is a crafty man, really crafty and I think he could pull it off and get the ysalmiri close enough to Luke to kill his force ability.

Unless you define the fight more or gave it terms anybody who is smart enough could manage this. =P

Fett take down NJO Luke, LMAO.

Originally posted by kamikz
Fett take down NJO Luke, LMAO.

Alright well if Fett did use the Ysalmiri and null the force through them what does Luke have?

If Fett didn't have the Ysalmiri to null the force than yeah. Luke would own him up something fierce. Not doubting it man but nobody defined the fight...so is Fett not allowed to use the Ysalmiri? I figured if he can bring Luke to somewhere of his choice somehow than he could do it with the Ysalmiri nulling the force.

But hey man, if you can prove me wrong than I'm all for it.

The brotherhood from ruusan could take NJO Luke as well since they made the thought bomb, that trapped every jedi and siths force essence. Even Luke couldn't withstand that.

WTH is the Ysalmiri? Even if he had that though (whatever it is) Luke could kill him instantly.

If Jango has the "almighty Ysalmiri" why didn't he use it on the jedi on Geonosis or Obi??

(sorry if it came out a little harsh, didn't mean it that way).

Originally posted by kamikz
WTH is the Ysalmiri? Even if he had that though (whatever it is) Luke could kill him instantly.

If Jango has the "almighty Ysalmiri" why didn't he use it on the jedi on Geonosis or Obi??

(sorry if it came out a little harsh, didn't mean it that way).

Hehe, It's alright, didn't come out harsh at all.

Ysalmiri are sloth like creatures that, for lack of better word can create a bubble around them that pushes the force away. So if Fett wore one say around his neck any force attack Luke would use would go to the bubble and than just....nothing...

L -------force attack------( F )

L= Luke.

Lines are say force lighting or choke or whatever.

( ) are the Ysalmiri force bubble (I don't know how big this really is)

F - Fett.

Now they are part of the Force but for some reason they can manipulate it and push it away. *shrug* I don't know how they work, heh, but thats what they do. They arn't like the Vong tho, they are part of the force but can just maniuplate it like no other force user can.

Either way with a Ysalmiri around Fett's neck the only thing he'd have to fear would be Lukes sabers which is dangerous enough but if Luke could say be brought into a room where they are and bubbles are just overlapping and such.....he's got nothing to warn him of attacks or anything.

Course luke also wouldn't be able to pre-guess him either since he wouldn't be able to see into his head with the Ysalmiri around his neck. So it would all be reacting and trying to guess each others moves which level's the playing feilding alot.

Anybody could really use that tatic with the Ysalmiri. Wedge could probably pull it off. =P

Why Jango didn't even use one *shrug* Why Boba didn't ever use one...*shrug* I can't say really because I don't know but like I said. Define the fight a bit more and give it some limitations. Either way, without a Ysalmiri (or a thought bomb) the only other person who could stand up against Luke would be another Force user.

Unless you mean of course about who(force users) Could defeat Luke...than I've no idea....I don't know enough about alot of Jedi to really say.

(I seriously hope that made sense to you. Sometimes what makes sense to me doesn't make sense to others when I type it out, so sorry if it's confusing)