who could defeat NJO luke

Started by Lightsnake7 pages

Without the Force to aid him, Luke is still far faster than Fett and if Luke can kill literally thousands of Yuuzhan Vong without the force guiding him there, Fett's little chance. Plus, at this point, Fett'd be...into his seventies? In one story, his physical prowess has been declining. He'd have trouble taking on Han Solo, let alone a full fledged Jedi Master, even with a ysalmiri

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Without the Force to aid him, Luke is still far faster than Fett and if Luke can kill literally thousands of Yuuzhan Vong without the force guiding him there, Fett's little chance. Plus, at this point, Fett'd be...into his seventies? In one story, his physical prowess has been declining. He'd have trouble taking on Han Solo, let alone a full fledged Jedi Master, even with a ysalmiri

Well yeah, Fett is old....but at this point all the sith and Jedi other have listed are dead so nobody could Defeat NJO Luke during his Time. =P

My Apologies if this topic was actually ment at during the time for I was going on anybody in the sw universe from anytime.

That being said Fett in his prime would just have to stay away from Luke. He's got his Jet Pack for that. It would be a hard fight because even with a Ysalmiri luke does have fast reflexes and since the bubble is around Fett Luke can still use the force to throw things at him and deflect bolts back at him. Fett would REALLY have to plan it out. It's possible is what I'm saying. Sure Fett doesn't have the greatest odds but he's pulled off some crazy stuff before and he's a brillant person. I think Fett could pull it off if he thought it through enough and planned it out well.

If he was thrown down into an Arena with a ysalmiri and had no planning or anything and was forced to fight Luke......eh, even tho I love Fett, I know that his chances are slim to none.

I mean I'm not saying that Fett WOULD win, but if it happened....I'd take a risk and put my money on Fett if he could pick the fight, where it took place and all that jazz.

Luke is fast enough to wield a lightsaber to make it seem he was using twenty and he's a very smart fighter. Fett's good, one of the best....the jetpack is an exploitable weakness, too

Originally posted by Escape81
Where can you all argue that the ancient Sith have done better? In the cases of Ragnos and Revan, you can't. Fear is a fickle thing. Sidious was powerful, and he feared an untrained Luke. So, obviously - by your standards - this is a sign of inferiority. And for all of you Dooku fans. Dooku feared Sidious. So I suppose he is inferior to his master as well (I think he is, but many argue otherwise).

The point is this. Revan and Ragnos have a load of fear and rumors. So what? Until you can prove to me that they can survive instakills, or have instakill abilities of their own, I see no reason why Exar Kun, DE Sidious, NJO Luke, and Traya can't rape any of them.

Then again, I operate on fact. Not fiction.

The Emperor feared Luke for being the one to dethrone him. Naga Sadow feared him to the point where he followed him. Different kinds of fear.

Secondly, that point is BS. You see no reason why they can't rape them, therefore they can? The whole point of absence of evidence is that it's an ABSENCE of evidence, not evidence for or contrary to.

That entire argument is BS.

Amen to that.

I could just as easily say "there is no evidence for Sidious, Kun, Luke, or Traya to being as uber as Ragnos" (and if I were to believe the narration and commentary by various individuals, I could easily come to that conclusion), therefore Ragnos rapes them.

That doesn't compute.

In fact, I use that data, extrapolation and inference based on logically accepted means, and there is the argument. As long as the fanboys don't have anything to counter valid first order logical reasoning, they can get into feat wars until they're blue in the face and it won't establish anything.

The problem is, pretty much anything about Ragnos is total and complete conjecture

I think

Exar Kun
Marka Ragnos
Anakin Skywalker (Full potential)
Anakin Skywalker (Not full potential)
Revan
Darth Nihilus
Darth Sion
Darth Traya (maybe)
God
Me

ok these are the things this NJO skywalker is famous for that i know of

being able to make black holes
being able to insta kill someone
and also being able to cloak entire planets

cant palpatine create worm holes and if he can, cant he also cloak entire planets and if any sith was to put enough power into there lightning shouldnt it be insta kill anyway.

Originally posted by Illustrious
The Emperor feared Luke for being the one to dethrone him. Naga Sadow feared him to the point where he followed him. Different kinds of fear.

Secondly, that point is BS. You see no reason why they can't rape them, therefore they can? The whole point of absence of evidence is that it's an ABSENCE of evidence, not evidence for or contrary to.

That entire argument is BS.

Different kinds of fear yes, but at the end both sets of fear are based on power. Sidious was afraid of luke's power. Sadow hated, feared, AND respected Ragnos because of Ragnos' power.

There's no logical deduction here about anybody beating NJO Luke.. Lets go down the list shall we?
1. Ragnos- He would be MY choice but unfortunately there is shit on him.
2. Sidious- By DE he was the most powerful sith of all time, his feats are self explanatory to anyone who has read the comics. However he would not measure up to NJO Luke.
3. Revan- My favorite sith. Uber powerful but wouldn't measure up to the likes of DE Sidious..
4. Kun- an amulet blast and a sexy stasis field..Very impressive as a ghost but also wouldn't measure up to NJO Luke..
5. Sadow- illusions? Wow.. He was a sith alchemist not a fighter
6. Ajunta Pall- wow, lets just add all the unknowns because we hate the NJO..

Anyways this thread seems old so I dont know why it was resurrected..

thought this thread died ages ago

you should add darth nihilus

that depends though if luke loops out before nihilus strikes then bye nihilus. Anyways i doubt luke even knew about him. by JA he was a jedi master who knew the history of the old republic, he taught all he knew about history to his students and when he mentioned the sceptor of ragnos could drain the force, his student sounded suprised and asked "how could any1 do that", and Lukes reply was "I'm Not sure"

that means that luke had never heard of a force drain. I mean its silly for him to say he isnt sure if he already knew about force drain

Seriously people, Luke is the strongest Jedi or Sith in existence. Nobody can kill him. His saber skils were said that to be like twenty lightsabers and his Force skill is extremely powerful. His Emerald Lightning could own hordes of Jedi and Sith. There's people who can certainly contend with him, but to beat him, nope.

That's just the fact as of right in the Star Wars universe. And this thread is way old.

i dont know what makes you think he's the strongest ok he opens warm holes so what so did paplatine, oh the emerald lightning stuff so what they can shield it cant they or dodge it, cloaking an entire planet im sure others could do that, can he make stars go nova, or destroy whole planets, if he doesnt know about the force drain then how can he know all the powers of the force there might just be someone who has something up his or her sleeve that he wont see comming.

P.S they need to put this NJO into comic book format cause id love to see this supposidly invincible warior.

Jacen Solo and Darth Bane

Jacen Solo, that's it.

Originally posted by Kas'Im
Jacen Solo, that's it.

I hope he bulks up a little bit more before he attempts it. As of now, he is still no match for Luke.

I think freedon nadd can. By the way, i have read the unifying force and seen the lukes so called 20 lightsabers, honestly it isnt, the comment Jacen made was "It might as well be 20 lightsabers" and the fact is, it was just luke moving really really fast killing vong after vong, not 20 lightsabers moving all at once