Sidious - The Debate

Started by Sir Degrader32 pages

Go ahead, make my day, Exanda. 😮‍💨

I would but as my day is ending now I'll lay off you. Would you believe it's 2:10 am? Oh my. Well I hope you sleep well Mr.Uncle-Sam-Son-Of-A-Hillbilly-Wank-Stain-Lil' DarthMaul Fanboy-Nubi l🙂

What would you say if I told you I wasn't American?

Originally posted by Sir Degrader
What would you say if I told you I wasn't American?

I'd ask why your lying about your whereabouts. Sleep well Nubil!

Maybe I'm an expat?

The truce is broken!

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Still doesn't show why the ship could do what you say it could.

The ship was powered by the Dark Side itself, that's for certain. However, everything points to the ship being the strength, not its controller. Sadow isn't even at the control center the first time it attacks a star and laughs that the Sith weapons are more than the Republic could dream up. When it destroys the Denarii, he doesn't throw the star or the core. We see Sadow concentrating, the core glowing along with his amulets and then the next panel is an explosion, wiping out the ships flying between the two.

Aleema also says it's the ship itself...she says she can't wait to use Sadow's weapons. Kun also says it's the ship itself.

Now, I owe you a big apology, Glen and Traya...I respect both of you quite highly and I see the logic inherent in your arguments. I had some time to cool down seriously

Originally posted by Sir Degrader

The truce is broken!

Haha, you just got ignored! Stop trying to ruin the thread and buzz off.

No, I won't, I can't, and I sure as hell don't want to. What are you going to do about it, big man?

Nothing, but this was/is a good debate, so STFU. 😊

All I hear is you shooting your mouth off. Do something about it, oh mighty mod.

*shrug*

All i want to hear and dont qoute me is someone actually talking about star wars

'long as Gryn is here, don't expect much.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Aleema also says it's the ship itself...she says she can't wait to use Sadow's weapons. Kun also says it's the ship itself.

I was told that it was a weapon that he used to destroy the star.

The ship's a weapon pretty much, yeah...one Kun felt he could lose when it served its purpose

Okay -

I disagree with Lightsnake in the sense that I do believe Palpatine's power did expand amazingly during the OT and Dark Empire times. I do not believe he had the DE Force powers in the time of the PT. It would not make sense. I agree with Nai there. It is more logical to deduce that Palpatine, having gleaned the archives of the Jedi and raided tombs on Korriban for Sith artifacts, that he achieved his potential in DE times, also having five years non-stop to train them.

However -

Kevin J. Anderson created Exar Kun, Marka Ragnos, and the other Ancient Sith. Nai, to refute his claims of power is ridiculous. He created the characters. He knows their power better than you, or any of us. If he says that his Sith were on a lower tier than Emperor Palpatine, you haven't the basis to dispute this. One could easily accuse you of a bias against Palpatine by making a foolhardy claim, just as you've accused Lightsnake of fanboyism.

Simply put, DE Sidious had the power to teleport beings across the galaxy. He had the power to annihilate mass fleets of ships. And it took the combined Force Attunement of Anakin Solo, Leia, and Luke to take him down. And then, even on his deathbed he still devestated the security forces of Onderon. Exar Kun is mighty powerful, and I do not believe he was much weaker than DE Sidious, but I believe he is, considering the proof Lightsnake has provided.

Also, when Sidious was dying, he went to Korriban. The spirits of long dead Sith Lords initially refused his request for the secrets to immortality, but then they agreed that he had become "the strongest of them", and told him to go possess Anakin Solo.

There you have it. Why dispute it?

And Glentract -

Sidious intended to be separated from his body when he attacked Onderon. Why didn't he take an army with him, otherwise? Apparently, the process required him to be rendered as a spirit. He did not however, expect Brand to interfere.

^Agreed.

wow, with this new knowledge you could technicaly say that NJO Luke can beat all the old order sith!! wow... Major reality warp....

Unfortunately, he probably could.