I did mention the legal bit, VVD.
And I simply don't agree, soleran. It's being done easily enough in other places and I do not think the US would have anywhere near as big a problem with it as you say.
Besides which, it caused a lot of legal uproar when slavery was abolished and when women got the vote. Sometimes, the cause of moral progress is clearly worth the hassle.
I have not made an argument against it AT ALL! I have made a point that it is not as simple as signing a new bill...............wow reading into things because you like to get huffy..........save it.
Let me make it SUPER clear once again........I am not opposed to same sex unions however to make it FAIR then the laws need to be changed and there are alot of them to change.
Ush in all fairness we have 10 times the laws we did back in the times of those civil uproars. So we need to make double sure to keep the laws square in how this is handled. Its a legal piece not a moral piece.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Straight from the horses mouth, you are ignorant!
And you'll notice, in the very quote you decided to use, it says single gene.
Semantics Captain. I like how you phrased it..taken from the horse's mouth once again...
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
There is no single gene that makes you gay. That is a fact.
My point all along...
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
There are many genes that act in unison, controlling sexuality.
There have been no studies conducted..that have conclusively linked "homosexuality" to one's genetic makeup. Simple as that Cap.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
The fact that you claim another false victory over that statment only proves me right, that you know nothing of which you argue against.
Cap I'm just using your own statements against you. You've stated that the non existence of a "single" homo gene. You've stated that homosexuality isn't a "genetic condition." You've stated in many threads that you are responsible for making your own "lifestyle [b]choices.[b]" So where does the ultimate responsibility of your actions lie Cap? This is a rhetorical question bud..you need not answer..
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You've also not provided us with any evidence that the civilizations you mentioned were destroyed by the sexual activity of it's citizens.
Sorokin actually alluded to the fall of a society's "social mobility" being linked to the breakdown/perversion of the institution of marriage. Not a huge discovery however..seeing as how linking such behavior to societal breakdowns is a no brainer.
"breakdown/perversion of the institution of marriage" relates to the disfunction of, not the premise of. and funny how in not a single known fallen empire in history was gay marriage allowed...yet they fell anyway didnt they?
you base your entire argument by presenting your simpleminded and irrationally scared opinions as fact, sprinkled with baseless junk science pulled freshly out of your ass ala nietzsche.
you view the entirety of your posts concerning homosexuals as a solid fortress of impenetrable fact, when in reality its just an big house of cards which has been blown over a long while back. you chose to cry "group think" in the face of sound logic and then spam with smilies and 'owned' pics.
what is your purpose other than to spend endless hours trying to rationalise the discrimination and hate of other people because they are different than you?
i mean, its one thing to feel that gays should not be "married". i disagree but thats just an opinion. you seem to want to discredit them as frikin human beings with any sense of morality.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
There have been no studies conducted..that have conclusively linked "homosexuality" to one's genetic makeup. Simple as that Cap.
You are selectively ignoring the University of Illinois at Chicago study that combed the entire human genome for genetic determinates of homosexuality and found them on chromosomes 7, 8, and 10 just as you did in the "Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic" thread.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
whobdamandog, I challenge you to name a single rational reason to deny same-sex couples the right to marry that is related to a legitimate state interest.
Moreover, why do you continue to participate in these threads; should you not be preparing for the Rapture?
Originally posted by PVSwhat is your purpose other than to spend endless hours trying to rationalise the discrimination and hate of other people because they are different than you?
i mean, its one thing to feel that gays should not be "married". i disagree but thats just an opinion. you seem to want to discredit them as frikin human beings with any sense of morality.
Yes, and that is where this conversation should be left.
Whob, I hope you're not as stupid as you seem to be. You twist the words of other posters to suit your argumentative/descriminatory needs. The several posts above this one address your last post, directed at me. Therefore, I'll let their words speak for themselves in the face of your overwhelming ignorance.
As PVS pointed out, you are just a hate filled person. I'm sorry for your lot in life, which you use to justify your beliefs. Maybe once you loose a little weight, grown a set of balls, and put down your bible, you'll discover the joys that the rest of the collective world have come to know. And who knows? Maybe a real live girl will touch your peepee. (Not with her mouth of course. That's a SIN!) It's called being a human being. Your parents have failed you, miserably. As has baby Jesus.
Why don't you print out all your posts here on KMC and submit them to the white house. I'm sure there's a job on the Supreme Court for you, given your overwhelming under-qualification.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Whob, I hope you're not as stupid as you seem to be. You twist the words of other posters to suit your argumentative/descriminatory needs. The several posts above this one address your last post, directed at me. Therefore, I'll let their words speak for themselves in the face of your overwhelming ignorance.
I'm not ignorant at all Captain..I just have a different opinion than yourself. My words do indeed "speak for themselves", and I'm certain that they will influence others who read them in different ways. Your opinion of them..doesn't necessarily reflect the opinions of others.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
As PVS pointed out, you are just a hate filled person.
Not at all. I don't hate anyone. Nor do I wish any ill will upon anyone. What I do "hate" however..is the ideology that you/others have choosen to represent, which is based on nothing but lies, selfishness, and perversions. I also "hate" the fact that you attempt to force such a foolish ideology on others.
my psychic powers never fail me 😂
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Not at all. I don't hate anyone. Nor do I wish any ill will upon anyone. What I do "hate" however..is the ideology that you/others have choosen to represent, which is based on nothing but lies, selfishness, and perversions. I also "hate" the fact that you attempt to force such a foolish ideology on others.
you totally contradicted yourself.
you probably know that.
yes whob, you are absolutely right. its all an ideology.
gay people are just out to prove something. they only
have sex to piss off idiot backwoods retards, and boy
do they do a great job. once you all submit and admit your
stupidity, they will no longer have a purpose for being gay
and will suddenly decide to date the opposite sex.
you frikin genius you!!!! you saw right through their master plan.
BRAVO!!!!
Originally posted by PVS
you totally contradicted yourself.
you probably know that.
No contradiction PVS. I never alluded to "hating" an individual..just the "ideology" in which they choose to follow. Does that mean that I'm wishing for malice or ill will to come upon that person...no..not in the slightest, in fact..I really pity you, Captain, and others who profess their faith in such belief systems.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
No contradiction PVS. I never alluded to "hating" an individual..just the "ideology" in which they choose to follow. Does that mean that I'm wishing for malice or ill will to come upon that person...no..not in the slightest, in fact..I really pity you, Captain, and others who profess their faith in such belief systems.
you are presenting your opinion (a completely false one) as fact, as per your usual asinine posts. they dont CHOOSE to be gay. and although your lord and savior (bush, not christ) teaches you that a lie repeated becomes the truth, its just an illusion.
well thats it, im done with you.
i only wish that spamming stupidity was a banable offense
or this forum would clean up pretty damn quick, but unfortunately
kmc and all its decent political/social discussions will continue to
rot because of asshats like you.
yeah i said it. ban me. 😬
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Any person should be allowed to enter into a civil and legal union with any other consenting person. 'Civil' is used simply as a point that the union is not necessarily religious or spiritual
Just wanted to adress this point..seeing as how I believe it to be the most important issue being raised.
Where should the limit be regarding such a union? You all have stated that you are against necrophelia and beastiality. But what stances do you have on polygamy and incest?
Do you all believe that the law should recognize a consentual union between a Father and his adult son/daughter as a marriage? What about between Mother and adult son/daughter?
What should be the limit to the amount of consenting adults who engage in such a union. "2"..."3"..."4"...etc?
I'd like to know everyone's stance on these issues.